Using Baby name Sivan help

Please start using punctuation and complete sentences. This is not the first or second time you have been asked. It is very difficult to read your posts.

It’s not a common name. I’ve never heard of it being used as a person’s name. I would strongly advise not using it and burdening your child with a name which they very possibly will resent.

What I said before. Don’t remember exact wording . But what I said is that usually Israelis give the name not stam anyone else. And there are people with that name. Don’t remember what else I write before my comment got replaced .

skyz: Asking a Rav is your best option.

Do you know any Elul or any Shvat?

Joseph: While I don’t know if your question was intended for someone in particular, and/or everyone, I shall respond to you.

No, I have not yet met an Elul, or a Shvat.

However, I’m pretty sure that I’ve met a Nisan.

I’ve also met an Av[i], whose given name is likely “Avraham.” So, I don’t think that counts, but still.

How about you? Have you met anyone who shares a name with a Jewish month?

Thanks 🙂

Sivan is a pretty girl’s name referring to a month in late spring. I guess that would make it similar to the name June. And just like we don’t name our kids November or March, we don’t name them Elul or Tishrei, though Nissan is a commonly accepted boys’ name. You better speak to your Rav, as some are not comfortable with using newfangled modern innovative names that have no Mesorah, and Sivan is not a name that’s been around for long. Many feel that the name has an effect on the neshama of the person so you want to be sure you’re making a good choice.

iacisrmma: Is it more appropriate to name your daughter “Batsheva” over “Sivan”?

iacisrmma: The child that I’m pretty sure is named Nisan was named Nisan because his parents wanted to nickname him “Nes” for miracle.

I have met a Nissim too.

Thank you for your info ☺

A few Shira’s changed their name after Rav Chaim told them to, being Shira isn’t a real name per Rav Chaim.

Sivan sounds like a boy’s name from Romania.

I knew a Secular Jew named Sivan. She explained that her parents wanted to name her after a relative called Ziva, but since that name when written with the letter Ves has a negative medical meaning, they chose Sivan since it sounded similar.
I’ve also met a Nissan, a girl born during that month, and a boy named Aviv. Aviva, on the other hand, is fairly common among frum Jews

Like in English, the Hebrew months are sometimes named after Greek gods and other forms of avoda Zara. Some months are not. For example marcheshvon means eighth month. Sivan is a form of the word siman or sign/signal. It’s not a jewish name but then again neither is gitty. At some point Jews first started using it and some later point it received wide acceptance.

WTP: While I have heard of the girls name Aviva, I have not heard of Aviv. Those names though are not relate to the chodesh named Av. Aviv either means springtime (Shemos 2:15) or to ripen. (Vayika 2:14).

As for the name Nissan….I stand corrected from my post above.

I find these Yiddish-centric criticisms amusing. What is particularly Jewish about Beryl, Muttle, Shmeel, Gittel, Heshy, Elka, etc ? You can not find them anywhere in Tanach and did not exist before the Middle Ages. I can picture Rashi in 1100 saying what kind of name for a Jewish girl is Shprintzer?

Skyz, asking your rabbi is a great idea.
You can’t believe everything (or most of) the information you find on the internet.
A case in point:
– the erroneous information you received on “a baby website”.
If you accept that the Bible refers to Torah, Nevi’im and Kesuvim, or Tana”ch, then this is incorrect. (There are other books that non-Jews refer to as bible but those books are of no interest or concern when naming a baby with a holy Neshama.)
The word Sivan appears in Megillas Esther referring to a month in the calendar.
There is no connection between Sivan and bush or thorn.
(I’m trying to guess what word beginning with an S they might have confused with Sivan. Maybe “sneh”?)

Many kids are not happy having a name that stands out too much- so even if a name is popular in one culture/society (say secular Israeli) but is not popular in the society that she will grow up in, it could be a burden to her. I know kids from American families growing up in Israeli who feel uncomfortable with the names their parents gave them, since although those names are perfectly normal in the US, in the Israeli society they are growing up in they are not used- like Yiddish names, or names that have different connotations in modern Hebrew, or sound like Hebrew words that are not appropriate for names. Sivan could be the same sort of name for your baby if she is not growing up in Israeli secular society.

Yes, I would say “what sort of name is that”? Would your child feel uncomfortable? That question cannot be answered. I know people with “mainstream” names and they are uncomfortable with either their name or initials…for example Binyomin Shmuel or Binyomin Moshe.

Of course there is the Country Yossi song “A boy named Zlata”.

Winnie, frum native Yerushalami and other Eretz Yisroel Yidden commonly use Yiddish names.

Joseph, maybe among the Yiddish speaking chasidim, they use Yiddish names. But Litvish chareidim do not. If they name after someone with a Yiddish name, they change it to the Hebrew equivalent (eg Faiga becomes Tzipora, Gittel, Tova). I am speaking from my experience- from hearing the names in the playground, seeing the names on class lists, knowing girls who if they do have a Yiddish name (because they have American parents), hide them, change them, use only a middle/first name instead.

Back to the OP, most Americans who hear Sivan would think, why would someone name their kid after a month? If it was just a made up name with no other meaning, I think it would be less likely that the kid would feel uncomfortable.

jdb
“There are gedolim who are into biblical names, ”

Like who? Please don’t say R’ Chaim Kanievsky since he doesn’t have a biblical name

WTP
“But Litvish chareidim do not”
This has not been my experience. and I am not in Yerushalyim

Hi! Sivan here! I must say, I found this quite entertaining to read. Lets begin with the response you have all been waiting for (since 2017). First of all, I am from America and nobody I have ever met says “why did your parents burden you with that terrible name” nor have I ever thought to myself “woe is I, what an unfortunate name I have. why do my parents burden me so?!” In fact, most people I meet (Jewish, Israeli, and goy) all exclaim that I have a beautiful name and they love it! They then ask the meaning, which to clarify, is the months of May-June (not thorn, bush, season, etc). I was in fact born in the month of Sivan, which is where I got my name from. I personally love my name because I like being the only person named Sivan in all of my classes in school, etc. I am grateful my parents did not choose a common name for me. It sets me apart but Israelis (and American Jews) still know that it is a name that exists and they are not extremely shocked and horrified when they hear it. And by the way, no matter what Jewish or Yiddish name you give your child, if you live in America, every non-Jew will probably find it strange no matter what. I would like to conclude this comment by saying that if you find yourself have a baby girl (as it is a feminine name) in the month of Sivan and like the name (like my parents did) you should use it and not worry about the so-called “burden” it will be for your child. And to everyone laughing about the fact that it is a month- tell that to the people named Nisan, Adar, May, April, August, June (Yes- all of these are names that I have heard).