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The Mershoh explains that if someone lives through two thirds of his accountable years he wil not sin anymore.
The fifty days of sefira is fifty years that a person is heavenly accountable. The normal life is sevehty from which he is not responsiiblle for twenty years and two thirds of fifty is around thirty three. By birrh of a boy the firsr thirty three days is yemei tohoro.How can the above be reconciled with Yochanan Kohen Gadol?
a teshuvah (responsum) of Rav Shmuel Wosner z”l, stemming from a תוספתא that states המרקד לשלהבת הרי זה מדרכי אמורי.
the full teshuvah of Rav Wosner (שו”ת שבט הלוי, חלק ז, יורה דעה סימן קלוLag B’Omer [ Has gone so overboard & taken so overboard one can conjecture it] borders on Bal Tosif
Where is Kever Rashbi located ?
According to R. Menachem Hachevroni (14th century) in Kfar Chananya
(15 km. south of Meron)2) When was Rashbi niftar ?
According to the Chida there is no Mekor that he was niftar on Lag Baomer
3) Who wrote the Zohar ?
According to the Yavetz it was R. Moishe d’Leon
4) How can you bring nachas to Rashbi (guaranteed) ?
The Shoel Umeishiv ( 5 – 39) writes ” if you distribute the money to Aniyei Eretz Yisroel
instead of spending it to go to his Kever etc., he guarantees Rashbi will have much more Nachas Ruach.נהפך לאבל מחולינו…
So many victims in Meron….
Father in Shomayim hob rachmonus.
Dear Truth,
That is Not what the Yavetz says regarding the Zohar. He insists that Rab Shimon is the central author of the Zohar. The point is that certain practical halacha in the Zohar, is only practiced by the Sefardim. Because those passages were added in Spain.
@it is time for truth
virtually all the gedolai yisrael hold that the zohar is from the rashbi, including the arizal, the gra and his talmidim, the baal shem tov and his talmidim. the ramchal and his talmidim. and many many others.also, if u know where the yaavetz talks about it i definitely would like to see it. please lmk
Dear Yid,
Authorship meant something completely different to the luminaries of yore. And still, the only one (To my little knowledge.) that puts Reb Shimon as the author of the Zohar is the G”RA. If you have a good source on the Ba’al Shem and the origins of the Zohar, I would absolutely love to hear about it!
The yaavetz wrote a whole treatise on this very topic. Mitpachat Sofrim. Though I do not agree with how his conclusions are commonly quoted.
Dear Reb Eliezer,
I’ve see it. It does not add any merits to the antiquity of the Zohar. It is clear that the author of the Zohar had the Talmud in book form. The best question is what were the principle sources.
Four years later, and I still don’t understand.
My understanding of Lag Baomer is that it’s a special day of the revelation of Pnimiyus HaTorah, achdus and a very special day for spiritual growth and also to daven. In Chana it is also a special day that The Rebbeim would give brachos and especially for children. We go to Meron but can also as easily go to The Ohel since their neshamos are connected
*Chabad (not Chana)
Dear Cs,
That’s a theory. It seems silly to celebrate a day based on something that is totally unsubstantiated.
I know a Reform Jewish physicist who thinks Lag Baomer is the Hebrew word for Doppler effect.
What’sa theory
If you’re referring to other points, there’s sources for all. Just wasn’t sure what exactly you thought was theory
Nomesora,
I didn’t make it up, The Rebbe said it. See https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/1734395/over-10000-converge-on-the-lubavitcher-rebbes-ohel-for-lag-bomer-photos.html
Dear Cs,
It’s a theory that lag baomer is associated with pnemius hatorah. I know you didn’t create it and it has multiple citations. But it’s still only a theory.
So we should have a celebrated day, because a theory about theories gained universal traction?!?
Nomesora, how is it a theory, if it has multiple citations? Rashbi was nistalek while revealing tremendous secrets of Torah, and we’re celebrating those revelations which lead us towards geula (as is known the quote about the Zohar). But hey, if you find Lag Baomer Meaningful for other reasons, please share.
I forgot that The Rebbe chose Lag Baomer as a parade day to inculcate Jewish pride, and that’s another theme of the day today in Lubavitch.
Dear Cs,
Citations doesn’t take it out of the realm of theory until those sources can tell us why it is so. And these sources are all after the fact of lag baomer, so they don’t signify that this was the purpose. It’s just the way of explaining what is already custom. That is theory. I didn’t celebrate it growing up, and I still don’t.
The Rebbe was adamant that lag baomer was not the day rashbi died. it’s a misspelling. It reads, the day he rejoiced. And there is no mention of it in the Zohar.
Nomesorah
“The Rebbe was adamant that lag baomer was not the day rashbi died. ”Source?
Dear Cs,
A letter to Rav Sh”Y Zevin
From chabad org
I Will Write It In Their Hearts vol 4
An explanation of the death of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai on Lag BaOmer
Letter No. 485:Nomesorah, thanks for that letter, I never learned that before. However it seems The Rebbe was negating the idea that Rashbi passed on as one of true 24,000 students, which of course wouldn’t make historical sense. However I always understood that Rashbi passed away on Lag Baomer many years later, which The Rebbe doesn’t address there- he simply leaves it open ended by calling it his day Of celebration- which can be a euphemism for passing, or not.
Dear Cs,
The letter discusses how it is from a mistaken edition of the Eitz Chaim. This has been noted by many, including the Chida. As to which day he did indeed die, it is entirely an unknown.
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>n0mesora: “The Rebbe was adamant that lag baomer was not the day rashbi died.”
Sorry, במכ”ת this statement is laughable for anyone who glanced at any of the Rebbe’s hundreds of Lag Baomer sichos and letters. You completely misunderstood the Rebbe’s letter.
The Rebbe is only commenting that Rashbi couldn’t have died together with the students of Rabbi Akiva.
The Rebbe stated COUNTLESS times that Lag Baomer is the day of Rashbi’s passing.
Here is one example (among many) from a letter that the Rebbe wrote TWO YEARS after the aforementioned letter to Rabbi Zevin (Pesach Sheini 5711):
כמה טעמים נאמרו בשמחת ל”ג בעומר וחגיגתו. ואנו אין לנו אלא האמור בכתהאריז”ל ומובא בדא”ח, אשר יום זה הוא יום הסתלקותו של רבי שמעון בן יוחאי – הילולא דרבי שמעוןThe Rebbe attaches several sources (also makes mention of aforementioned Chida).
See original letter here:
https://beta.hebrewbooks.org/reader/reader.aspx?sfid=15951#p=300&fitMode=fitwidth&hlts=&ocr=n0mesorah,
Additionally, you seem to be מדייק in the word “Rejoicing of Rashbi” in the Rebbe’s letter.
This was not the Rebbe’s words (it’s a translation). The Rebbe wrote “הילולא דרשב”י” – which he always uses to describe passing. The yahrzeits of the Chabad rabbeim are often referred to as יום הילולא.This is taken from the term which the Zohar uses about the passing of Rashbi: ואתכנשו להילולא דרבי שמעון (Zohar Idrah Zutah 296b).
Dear Menachem,
The section of Kisvei HaAri that the letter quotes is the same section that has the erroneous passage discussed in the letter to Rav Zevin. Why the Rebbe chose to keep this myth somewhat intact, is a mystery. But his intent is clear. He is associating the day with Penmius HaTorah, as opposed to just the day Rebi Shimon died. Why there is a day for Penimius HaTorah is beyond my understandind. And I wonder if he really believed it to be. What the Rebbe is really asking for, is that we all commit to understanding chassidus and bringing it into reality.
>I wonder if he really believed it to be.
The arrogance of ignorance
(Please state your own opinions. No need to claim the Rebbe supports your claims. If you really care to know the Rebbe’s opinion, you’re going to have to look at a lot more than one translated letter. The Rebbe has THOUSANDS of pages on Lag Beomer. See his opinion for yourself)
Menachem, the word hilula is used by large swaths of klal yisroel to refer to the yahrtzeit of any tzadik, based on the lashon of the zohar; it’s not only in chabad.
I agree that the Lubavitcher rebbe never said that lag baomer is not the yahrtzeit of rebbe shimon; some simply enjoy stating contrarian opinions nonchalantly, and then reveling in the resultant fallout.
Avira: “it’s not only in chabad”
Yes, I am aware this. I was specifically addressing n0mesorah’s supposed diyuk in the Rebbe’s lashon.
>”Some simply enjoy…”
Well said.Dear Menachem,
I’m aware. Some of these letters are right before the letter to Rav Zevim. (My chakira is, was the Rebbe saying that this is the way it was, or the way it should have been. Of course he is saying that now it is that way. But he didn’t have a clear way of demonstrating it. If he did, he would have told it to Rav Zevin at the very least.) The Rebbe knew about the misprint, is my only point.
Dear Avira,
is it the day Rav Shimon שמת = died?
Or the day he שמח = rejoiced?The Chida already pointed out that it has to be the latter. When he actually died is unknown.
Lag BaOmer, oh joyous day!
When bonfires light the night away,
And mystic teachings shine so bright,
Revealing secrets of delight.Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai,
Whose wisdom lights up every sky,
On this day, his spirit soars,
And his teachings reach new shores.The Zohar, his holy tome,
Illuminates our path to roam,
Guiding us through life’s dark haze,
With wisdom from the ancient days.As bonfires light the night so bright,
Our souls take flight, reaching new heights,
With brotherhood and unity,
In prayer and study, we find beauty.Oh Lag BaOmer, teach us true,
To love our fellow, to pursue,
A life of righteousness and grace,
And find in Torah, our rightful place.Let us dance and sing with glee,
Inspiring others to be free,
To celebrate the joy of life,
And overcome all pain and strife.Lag BaOmer, oh joyous day!
May your light forever stay,
And may we be inspired anew,
To live a life that’s pure and true.
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