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…allegations of sexual abuse!!!
Rabbonim had previously ruled that Sexual Abuse must first be reported to Bais Din …. Well, that’s the end of that.
What will change now?unacceptable!
If our rabbonim want to abuse our children that is their right
Takes2- that was changed way back. You seem to be a few years behind the times
Re ubiquitin, What a horrible, misguided, disgusting comment. Your true colors show. Total lack of respect to our own leaders and greatest minds of Torah and full obedient respect to the law of the nation’s that of course only mean our best and love us. Studying some history and actually getting to know Torah scholars may help you. Or of course, you can continue blindfolded forever…
T22T: Are you really of the belief that someone who witnesses sexual abuse of a child in a yeshiva/beis Yaakov or any Yiddeshe mosdos should delay reporting that individual to law enforcement and instead report the incident to some beis din??? Any such delay makes the witness culpable of putting that child, and other children at risk. I’m not certain of how the New York criminal code deals with the issue but in some jurisdictions, teachers, social workers and mental health professionals who fail to report such incidents IMMEDIATELY are themselves subject to penalties, loss of licensing etc. There is no harm to concurrently reporting the suspect to a beis din so it can take parallel actions to be certain the school takes action to better monitor its rebbeim and those involved in secular instruction, investigate any other incidents that might not have been reported etc.
Bishtei-He wasn’t serious, he was being very sarcastic. My assumption is that it is on the stupidity of needing to make a law of this in the first place, or possibly tangos excitement.
Takes, you seem to think that we are still living in the age of autonomous kehillot. There is no bet din outside of Israel that has the power or resources to make a full investigation. The experience of secular colleges shows that the best course is for those authorities who do have the power and resources and are bound by due process rules to handle the investigation. Of course, it would be even better if Torah Jews would join prosecution offices both to handle investigations themselves and to educate investigators and prosecutors regarding relevant Jewish cultural norms so that they do not confuse normal displays of affection for harassment.
Takes2; It’s cute how KatanHadorah changes the wording from allegations to witnesses in order to make her mindless accusations and snide implications, isn’t it?
If one is aware of credible “allegations” of abuse, or actually witnesses behavior considered to be child abuse, there is an obligation to report to authorities. And if this was sarcasm, not a good subject for sarcasm, since there has been too much inertia on this issue. The good news is that the leadership of virtually all segments fo the tzibur have come out clearly in favor of timely reporting compared to the foot-dragging we saw several years ago when mandatory reporting legislation in NYS was blocked by a coalition of religious organizations, etc.
Takes, sorry, I didn’t catch your tone.
Takes,
You missed a story with greater impact on yeshivas. For 10 years, the New York State Assembly had passed a bill giving victims of abuse , who were past the statute of limitations for filing a lawsuit, a 12 month to file a lawsuit regardless of when the abuse occurred. And, for 10 years the Republican controlled State Senate refused to consider it. Well, the Democrats have won control of the Senate and today’s Newsday reports that this issue will be among the first to be taken up.
This will financially devastate yeshivas ( the newspaper talked about the impact on the Catholic church).Tango learned a valuable lesson about the internet today: sarcasm does not always come across in writing.
I don’t get the news. It was previously legal to be an accomplice in child abuse? Obviously not. Seems like puff-legislation that sounds nice, but doesn’t actually change anything about the law.
I’m sort of lost. What point was tango trying to make? It seemed like he was satirically responding to people who were upset about this law, but I see no evidence that such people exist.
Cuomo will discover that he has more to gain by working directly with religious mosdos than trying to legislate these types of issues. Nothing bring yidden together than pereceived threats on freedom to practice religious observance.
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