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With all the negativity that has been going around about the 5 towns, I would like to point out how much growth there has been in the amount of Shiurim and Torah that goes on there. Yes not every community is perfect, but we must look at the good in every single Jew and in every single Jewish community. And Chas Vishalom to say something negative about any Jew or community. I’m sorry to anyone that lives in the 5 towns, or anyone that has been hurt by previous threads. For the 5 towns is one of the best Torah and chesed loving communities in the America.
100% true
You’re just proving the point.
To some of those living in Willy, BP or other crowded Brooklyn neighborhoods, 5T may seem OOT but it really has it all from the perspective of a frum couple or family seeking to relocate but stay close to real world, Housing is expensive but not much more so than those “in-town” neighborhoods. I don’t think any our friends or family in 5T really care about what some armchair poskim on an internet thread have to say about their frumkeit or pervasive problems with tzinius on the streets of their neighborhood.
It doesn’t matter how some people dress.
That attitude is precisely what those posting negatively can claim is what they’re fighting against.
We do need to judge others’ actions. You, in fact, judged others’ actions (posting) as wrong because you feel it’s lashon hora.
I agree about the looking down, and in many cases, judging motivations and levels of nisayon.
I think what’s bothering you is that you’re getting a feeling that posters just want to knock others to make themselves feel superior, and not l’shem shomayim. You might be correct. Perhaps, though, you might want to constantly if you’re judging correctly…
Either way, wrong is wrong and must be judged as such.
Your wrong!!!
You’re judging me? Maybe you should give me the benefit of the doubt?
Um… Okay, I guess…
You can’t judge one another for sure, but we definitely need to speak about things that affect other people in the community, whether it’s an issue of bullying in schools or przitus on the street. No I can’t take people aside and force them to do things, but we must think as a community, as a klal what we can do to improve the general atmosphere and makes things easier for people.
Justajew, you had me there for a while, nice troll job.
Are you the same troll as the other 5T thread? If I were a betting man…
From DaasYochid with a straight face :
“……..nice troll job…..”Are you the same troll as the other 5T thread?”
The Bobbsey Twins and MORE …. Haaaaahh
You can fool some of the people…..etc..etc…
That’s a good one.“…….Yeah! You don’t get benefit of the doubt when you are constantly bring down other Jews….”
Yup, that’s his thing alright. He’s a fanatical extremist, except to when it comes to geneivas daas of the blog and blasting Jews he doesn’t like with some interesting nom de plumes..
…… And, when does he learn Torah ..??
Justajew, why did you out yourself as a troll so soon? The tradition is to stay subtle for a little bit first.
OK, this is simply incomprehensible at this point.
Are these insults references that everyone is supposed to get? Are they even insults? I can’t tell. Am I the only one confused here?
If you dont like the other thread so much why dod you start it?
I agree. Five Towns is growing on Torah and ruchniyus. There are beautiful Kollelim, Yeshivos, Bais Yaakovs, Mikvaos mehudaros, a mehudar eiruv, etc..
The chessed performed by the Baal Habatim towards these Bnei Torah is unmatched in any community.
Most if the negative talked about in the other thread is about a modern orthodox element who shop in town. They don’t know any better and do not think they are doing anything wrong. On the contrary, they respect Bnei Torah and treat them in the highest regard.
I just wish the supermarkets would realize they have this Bnei Torah community here now. The Bnei Tirah don’t need to shop at the expensive lavish stores or eateries in town. But everyone needs food. The supermarkets do give discounts and gift cards to Bnei Torah, but the cost if food is so high, they are squeezing the less affluent families to the extreme.
Five Towns needs Lakewood style supermarkets, where there is selection at affordable prices!
How do you know that the people you attack here are not also from the 5 towns?
Justajew,
You did the good thing. Be blessed…….“They don’t know any better and do not think they are doing anything wrong. On the contrary, they respect Bnei Torah and treat them in the highest regard.”
So, despite the town allegedly oozing with Bnei Torah and kollelim, the MO crowd still manages to “not know any better?” Yeah, I don’t buy it. You can’t have it bother ways. Either it’s a separatist MO enclave where they’re shut off from proper halachah, or they are fully aware of how wrong it is what they’re doing.
anonymous ‘THE CHESSED PERFORMED BY BAAL HABATIM…..’
i think its בעלי בתים not בעל הבתים .
since you are ANONYMOUS, no one knows who you are, so i guess you are not offended by my comment. but in case you are, are you mochel me? im sure you are, you sound like a nice guy, you see the good in people, places etc.Knaid:
We say “baalhabus,” “baalhabatim,” and “baalhabatish” as single words in the US. Hebrew-grammar wise, you’re correct.Why can’t you tell him?
It’s not lashon hara if it’s not specified which 5 towns they’re talking about.
Thanks for the descriptions. Now I’m convinced.
When I grow up, I want to make Aliya.
To Lawrence !!Ry23
Where is that referenced in חפץ חיים
Why would it be lashon hara to say that there exist certain people who dress not b’tznius?
I think the proper Hebrew grammar would be “Baalei Bayit” not “Baalei Batim” just like it is “”batei sefer” and not “Batei Sefarim” or “Batei Kneset” and not “Batai Kenesiyot”
Is it not worse for some “towns” and “neighborhoods” to post signs on public streets demanding that women must walk on a certain side of the street and/or specifying what THEIR interpretation of hilchos tzinus requires? In some cases, municipalities have defied court orders to remove such signs out of fear of “offending” certain fringe elements of the Chareidi taibur. (Obviously I am not referring to 5T in this regard) Yes, women should exercise common sense and dress appropriately for the circumstances and venue, even if that is not their own hashkafah but there is no legal basis to attempt to enforce tzinius on a public streets, even if some non-religious seem to show total lack of respsect. With regard to this thread, I have been in 5T many times (both for shabbosim and during the week) and just haven’t seen anything that comes close to the flagrant and pervasive disregard of tzinius that some have described here. Fake news.
He didn’t say which 5 towns, so it’s not naming a specific community.
Justajew, why would the editor take it off if he doesn’t want to? If he would want to, he already would have done it.
GadolHadorah: Don’t get me onto the topic of signs.
I agree, they’re not right.
But it’s not worth fighting over, within hours a new one is up. If you don’t like it just ignore it.
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