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They are now selling in Israel Tzniut Glasses , They allow men to see up close but blur things in the distance . They are for so you can not see women in the distance.
The story is a bubbe maaisa. A chevraman told it to the media as a joke, to see if they would fall for the story and publish it.
They did.
I saw about those a week ago. Honestly, so long as they can be proven not to cause headaches/migraines/neurological problems, they’re not a bad idea under certain situations.
Ok, zahavasd, so I’ve heard.
And your point is???
“They are for so”. aha.
The story was made up to point out the biases of certain groups. That they will believe a joke that feeds their preconcieved misconceptions. Like a bad plastic worm dangling in front of a fish.
*Somehow* you swallowed the bait.
zahavasdad
Im not trying to get personal with you but did you ever learn a mussar sefer in your life?
Hi WIY! (just liked the way that sounded)
I can think of at least 4 ways to say what you said to zahavasd in a more courteous, mentschlich manner.
Can you?
While this sounds far fetched, so does a grown man spitting on a 7 year old girl. Since I don’t know what to believe, I don’t believe any reports coming out of E’Y.
Aha. But isn’t it better to see women in the distance than to see them up close? The glasses should be the other way around. Just saying. So it was a stupid joke that doesn’t make sense.
But the internet is not at a distance!
If it was a joke it just goes to prove the media will publish anything without fact checking.
If it is not a joke then people should be able to wear jean skirts and it will be on the people offended by it to wear the glasses.
I see it as win win, people taking responsibility for their yetzer. And if its a joke, eh, it only shows what we already know about the media
If it was a joke, they fooled VIN, The Daily News and Haaretz
Wouldn’t be the first time, the 100th time or the 1,000th time. And wouldn’t be the last time. Those rags are not known for their accuracy. Far from it.
Zdad
All you have to do is fool one media outlet because they often borrow stories from each other. The story started on haaretz (to my understanding) and was linked (theres a better word for it but it escapes me) by VIN to haaretz and I wouldnt be surprised if the daily znus got it from haaretz as well.
Is there anywhere where it is reported that it was a fraud?
The sites that reported the story. Do they have a track record for anything but sensationalism?
Feif un,
Has anyone reported that you have stopped beating your wife?
What a silly expectation. That these places will write how easily they were duped.
Have you found any who has actually seem such glasses. Not one of the outlets or commenters who have reported about these glasses have an iota of credibility. They are all known to manufacture stories out of whole cloth. It is not the least bit surprising that they would be so easily duped by such silly little joke.
See my earlier comment as well.
So your only source that it’s a false story is… wait, you don’t have one other than your own thoughts?
You can claim it’s fake all you want. You certainly don’t have to believe it if you don’t want to. However, you won’t convince me that it’s fake without having a real source.
And there is the logic of Feif. You have not proven that it is true.
Lets clarify something, *you* are *claiming* it is real, I am telling you that it is a lie. A practical joke on Haaretz that played to its biases.
You are the one making the claim and thus it would be you who is required to bring proof.
So there is no need to prove otherwise.
What you have proven is that you are biased and therefore happily swallowed the bait.
I like how you believe anything that is published on the internet. EDITED
I wear a tzinus hat. Its a floppy cotton thing with a 3 inch brim. It funtions as a sun visor in the car, and when out and about, a slight tilt of the head and I see only the dalet amos of sidewalk in front of me. I stick out like a scarecrow in my neighborhood, (densely kollel pop) but most are used to me, and I avoid tripping and bumping into things for the most part. I tell the rare commenter, that when my hat gets dirty I toss it in the washing machine, and when it gets dog-eared, I can get another one for twenty shekel. Everyone else’s hat at 800 shekel and up get worn for way too long, gets faded and ratty looking and represents a bizayon of Torah.
The story of the glasses was on Yahoo last week, it was a story from the AP desk in Jerusalem. Perhaps the AP picked it up from Haaretz, perhaps not, it is likely these other “news” outlets are running with the AP story. What is says about the credibility of the story? Zero.
ok, so find the manufacturer
I do not know where the truth lies here.
But I do know that Tznius Glasses would sell much better than Tzniut Glasses.
There was a story a few years ago about a talking fish in Monsey, I am sure the same people who are calling this a “Bubba Meinser” are the same people who claim the Fish in Monsey talked.
The glasses is fairly easy to prove, all you have to find are the sellers and manufactures of these and its proveable
The talking fish story is just as easy to prove as the tzniut glasses bubbe maaisa. After you find the so-called sellers and manafacturers of these glasses, you can also find the talking fish — so they are both equally provable.
“There was a story a few years ago about a talking fish in Monsey, I am sure the same people who are calling this a “Bubba Meinser” are the same people who claim the Fish in Monsey talked.”
Your “tzu shtell” should win an award for the most illogical posted.
By the way, what is a Bubba Meinser? Is that a caterer’s grandmother? What terrible thing did she do that you should shlep her in to one of your rants?
twisted:
“everyone else’s hat at 800 shekel and up get worn for way too long, gets faded and ratty looking and represents a bizayon of Torah.”
…or, of course, it be could taken to just represent poverty. But hey, why pass up a chance to bash the black hat crowd?
zahavasdad:
“There was a story a few years ago about a talking fish in Monsey, I am sure the same people who are calling this a “Bubba Meinser” are the same people who claim the Fish in Monsey talked.”
I have long had a theory that those who scream “sinas chinom, stop being so judgmental” at every chumra often have far more animosity in their hearts towards the “frummies” than anybody on the right has towards them… and as much as I’d love to be wrong, all the recent comments and threads denigrating anybody and everybody who is more makpid than you are sure doesn’t point in that direction.
But the talking fish actually happened. It was well documented and proven. It was in Pomegranate. They made a video of it…
What makes you think that the fish actually spoke?
We all know that there was a fish, it jumped and someone shouted that the fish spoke. This is 80% of the story, so at least 80% is true.
You happen to be absolutely right, shticky g! I saw that video. And therein we may find the solution to all this silly bickering that began with zdad’s innocuous (or not so innocuous) post. Since Pomegranate sells just about everything new & innovative in the kosher market, including talking fish, let’s all head down there and check out their selection of kosher glasses. While we’re there we can all buy some of their delicious chummus, have a party and stop squabbling.
I heard the fish was asking if anyone had seen his tznius glasses. There was an immodestly dressed flounder in the next display case.
Zdad,
You say “These are 2 well known stories, Both were in the regular newspapers and you can believe or not believe either of them.” (BTW, I doubt that either are really well known stories, perhaps just in your mind)
Which is in direct contradiction with what you said initially “I am sure the same people who are calling this a “Bubba Meinser” are the same people who claim the Fish in Monsey talked.”
Perhaps Bubbe Meisner confused you with some of her Grandson’s excellent fish. Or more likely you ate some old fish didn’t agree with and it talked back.
But you should believe both stories because they are both on the internet, the source of all good things true.
MW13, not a bash at all. I daven and learn in this community, I support the tzedakos and kollelim, and it is just my impression that we are so afraid of change and locked into a system of arbitrary markers that we miss the mark. A talmid chacham should dress in “beged naeh ve’naki” and it this can’t be achieved with the Al Capone style due to widespread poverty, why can there not be an alternative. Things change with time and circumstance. The Mirer in Lita (as the photos show) dressed in grey suits and grey hats, no doubt because that was the only choice available. Hasidim wore some other style before the Levush became accepted. Hats of the 60s had half inch brims, and chrain, unknown to the Asian chazal, substituted for maror because that was all that was available in the permafrost. And last but not least, my cotton floppy hat is BLACK.
twisted:
If all you were doing was complaining about the impracticality of societal norms, then I completely misread the tone of your comment. I apologize.
I figured it was a joke when I saw it.
But, I think this story shows us something about the sincerity of our brothers and sisters who are always on our case for our tznius rules. Their usual refrain is that men should restrict themselves instead of restricting women. Then, when a story breaks about men “blinding” themselves, all they do is make fun.
I still don’t get this. Even if it was just a joke, it’s not a terrible idea at all. Just because it hasn’t been done before doesn’t make it weird or abnormal. The first person to wear any glasses 200+ years ago was probably thought of as weird too. But he had the last laugh in the end. So too here. If these glasses exist and do not cause any long-term vision issues (which they probably would, but I’m sure that can be fixed) then they are not a bad idea at all. Why wouldn’t you avoid looking at Assur things as much as possible?
My friend in J-lem said its real. He said he hasn’t seen them in person though so I don’t know how he knows its real. Either way, they’re terrible for your health and safety.
Either way, they’re terrible for your health and safety.
I assume the “either way” refers to whether the glasses are real or not*. If they are not real, how can be terrible for your health and safety?
The Wolf
* If I’m mistaken, then please forgive me and let me know what the “either way” was referring to.
You’re right, but some people suggested it’s a good idea even if they aren’t real. So I was saying not so b/c….
I think this is the funniest thread I have ever read. I did buy into the glasses but was very concerned about how much damage they could do to someone who wears them regularly. I think I may even hav bought in to the fish story for a bit . . . until it kept changing. So does this mean there may not be an Easter bunny either?
They will probably weaken their eyes until they actually need glasses, at which point they can just leave them off when walking in the street. Sounds like a plan to me.
I just wear sunglasses… good enough for me!
i heard from a person in jerusalem that they are real ,but i don’t know if he just heard of them or saw them himself. i’ll check it out ,if i remember. it sounds like a good idea to me if they dont create vision problems. i know a frum man who if he has to go somewhere where he will be liable to see less than tzniusdik sights takes off his glasses. we cannot force society to meet our standards but we can try to limit our exposure as much as possible .what’s the problem with that. it’s kavod to women for their husbands and potential husbands not to be exposed to untsniusdik sights. and its good for the men too. so who gets hurt or upset by this. the ones who arent dressed properly. do they really dress that way with the intention of upsetting our men, and women. if so ,then adaraba, lets definitely all wear those glasses and foil their diabolcal plan.(actually i think its just a total lack of understanding of what tznius is and why its good for us. )
My husband doesnt wear glasses so Ive talked him into wearing a blindfold during the summer and I just lead him around with a rope tied to his nosering.
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