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can someone please let me know if black nail polish is tznius?
no, but it might be better than red.
Why ask here? Why not ask a rebetzin or teacher that you know, instead of depending on anonymous posters who may or may not know what they’re talking about?
takahmamash – good point. But maybe she is embarrassed to ask.
But maybe she is embarrassed to ask.
I hope tznius is a she.
In another thread she said she was looking for a BMG guy.
Black nail polish looks like bruised fingers. Red looks like bleeding.
Depends on your skin tone, no?
If someone has a complexion that is brown, then a hue of black may actually be fitting and/or tznius. If that same person used a soft pink, then that might be untznius. Wouldn’t that make sense?
Not really. Tznius runs deeper than aesthetics.
I agree with moderator. Although I could see that pink nailpolish might be untznius on someone with black skin. But I still think that black would be worse.
“(due to majority of writers that posted it isnt tznius so it probably isnt)”
Just don’t start drawing any conclusions in the opposite direction. Like if the majority of the anonymous posters in the CR tell you that something is tznius, don’t assume it is.
I asked about skin color because I thought that tznius was also about not being too flashy.
Wait…. Then again, something that is not generally accepted and/or be considered trendy in the non-Jewish world, like black nail polish, wouldn’t be permissible.
Ahhhh… thanks for the reminder Moderator 🙂
“Wait…. Then again, something that is not generally accepted and/or be considered trendy in the non-Jewish world, like black nail polish, wouldn’t be permissible.” 🙂
I think that much as people don’t like admitting it, different types of styles have different meanings. Like, wearing jeans sends a different message than a suit does.
Black nail polish is not pretty. The point of black nail polish is to send a message. When I see black nail polish, I think it says “anti-establishment” or something like that. It’s not just that it stands out; it has no purpose other than standing out.
That being said, if I were teaching teen-age girls who were having a hard time with tznius, I probably wouldn’t say anything about black nailpolish. I certainly would not put it in the same category as short or tight skirts.
Ahh wow; Thank you for sharing tznius!
thank you tznius – I wanted to say that, but I couldn’t remember the word.
The word “gothic?” Black nail polish fits into the gothic aesthetic;
they don’t share your opinion that it’s not pretty.
(Just wearing black nail polish doesn’t create a gothic look, though.)
I think Lightbrite has a point about black standing out less on
someone with dark skin, and don’t understand how “tznius runs
deeper than aesthetics” applies to a question about aesthetics.
Lehavdil like how Jews wear black to a levaya the goyim wear it to remind them of death.
Huh? It’s non-Jews who wear black to levayos. We wear black all the time. 🙂 More seriously, black symbolizes mourning for Jews as well as for Western civilization – there’s a Gemara about how people weren’t allowed to lace their sandals in black, because it would appear to be presumptuously proclaiming one’s mourning for the Beis haMikdash.
Black Nail polish is not really the gothic look, Its black Lipstick and black all around , black clothing, but a certain type of black clothing and black hair (You can tell dyed black hair versus natural black hair)
when you see a goth, you know it
What about sparkly nail polish? Is that tznius?
tznius – so did you start going to some of the shiurim I mentioned or did you find other ones?
ZD – it could be it’s not literally gothic (I don’t know that much about gothicness), but I meant that it seems to me, that it’s based on the same concept. There is a science to colors and what they represent. Black certainly has a certain meaning.
I am not a fashion expert, but I know goth when I see it
Its a whole look, wearing black doesnt make you goth, the clothes are a certain syle. They just look differnet.
ive seen women with black nail polish who were clearly not goth, Usually if a male has black nailpolish he is goth
Meno – for you, no.
Tznius, I just want to clarify a few things about my earlier statements:
1. Everything I wrote and will write in this post is my own personal opinion. I never asked a Rav about black nail polish and never read anything about it anywhere.
2. When I said that it’s untznius, I did not mean that it’s assur. To my knowledge, it’s not assur. I merely meant that if you are asking about it, I would certainly say that it is a higher level of tznius not to wear it.
It is definitely not in the same category as wearing short skirts which is a clear-cut issur. I also would not put it in the same category as wearing certain styles which may not be mentioned in the Shulchan Aruch (since the Shulchan Aruch can’t deliniate every pritzusdik style that the oilam might come up with), but are CLEARLY assur to anyone who has a sense of tznius. I have seen girls wearing styles that were so pritzusdik even though they didn’t break any technical rules. I would not put black nailpolish in that category.
I would describe it as a level of tznius. It’s the type of thing that a Rebbetzin wouldn’t do and that one should be trying to outgrow, but right now, if you are a young girl and you feel that this is something that you like doing and that is hard for you to stop doing, it’s not assur, and there are probably more important things for you to work on whether in tznius or in other areas.
I don’t think it’s something to lose sleep over or worry about if it makes you feel good. Find something else to work on. At the same time, if you do want to send your kids to certain schools and be part of a certain society, you may want to think about eventually stopping to wear black nail polish at least by the time you have kids who are school-age, if not sooner.
Are you wearing gloves?
“can someone please let me know if black nail polish is tznius?”
Tznius,
You should talk to MsPrincess. She knows all about the Halachos of nail polish and which colors are acceptable.
It’s been a while since she posted though.
You make the assumption that any color nail polish is “Tznius”.
Why is any nail polish “Tznius”? And if it is, why is black different?
She might have a new name now. But I haven’t noticed anyone who sounds like her. Hope she’s okay.
GAW – while most Yeshivish girls don’t wear any nail polish, I think that most people would not say that it is assur to wear light pink nail polish. Although if it’s really unacceptable in your community, it probably shouldn’t be done. (although personally, I think there should be some leeway given for older single girls).
lilmod, why should older single girls be given more leeway?
lilmod ulelamaid – You already said this isn’t an “Assur” type issue. To quote from above:
2. When I said that it’s untznius, I did not mean that it’s assur. To my knowledge, it’s not assur. I merely meant that if you are asking about it, I would certainly say that it is a higher level of tznius not to wear it.
So once again, who says nail polish is Tznius?
My LOR says I shouldn’t be wearing nail polish at all.
Wait, didn’t you ask if black nail polish is tznius? So why are you saying that all nail polish is tznius for you?
My LOR says I shouldn’t be wearing nail polish at all.
There you go.
Speaking of Tznius, did you ask your LOR if you should be braiding your hair as well?
GAW – sorry, but I lost you. If it’s not assur, why assume that nail polish is untznius? Or is your point that no one should assume that it is tznius? I didn’t think anyone was. It is debatable. Many would say it’s not. I was simply stating my opinion.
I once worked in a modern school during a time-period when blue and purple nail polish were very in style in certain circles, and all the girls were wearing blue and purple nail polish.
I really wanted to wear blue nail polish, so I decided to wear it on Purim, since I figured it’s the one day a year I could get away with it. However, when I was about to wash for the Seudah on Purim night, I suddenly realized that I had to take it off if I wanted to wash. I figured that it was a bigger Mitzvah to have a seudah Purim night than to wear blue nailpolish – so there went the blue nailpolish! Oh, well. Boruch Hashem, I got a Mitzvah instead.
tznius – shkoyach! Tizki L’Mitzvos. That must have been hard to do – I’m impressed.
“What about sparkly nail polish? Is that tznius?”
just “chapped”.
Tznius – who chose your subtitle?
How can hair die?
split ends – I think.
I never understood what’s so terrible about split ends.
Hair is splitting. Breaking off. Like a tree branch that keeps getting hacked at until it’s this frayed little finger pointing at you
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