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Each school should try to get as many school vouchers as possible. The schools should convince the state they are in to use the public school teachers for English subjects and have the state pay for it. Therefore the schools only need to pay for hebrew teachers. I think that would bring costs down tremendously and then the schools could charge a normal tuition and not have to give out scholarships.
This doesn’t mqke sense. Why should taxpayers agree to pay for private school education? After all, it wouldn’t be just yeshivas. Also, what vouchers are you talking about?
School vouchers are not legal in most states because of Blaine Amendments in many state consitutions forbidding vouchers for porochail schools.
Blaine amendments were not passed because of Anti-Semitism, but rather against catholic schools
It would not bring costs down at all.
Kfb, there is no such thing as a free lunch. A number of years ago, when frum residents were elected to a majority of the Five Towns school district board, people such as yourself began advocating the district to pick up the customer of secular education,.
It was pointed out that once tax dollars were being spent for actual education , not just books and bussing, the same taxpayers who vote on public school budgets, would have the right to vote on yeshiva budgets. More importantly, taxpayers would have the right to sit on yeshiva boards.
Needless to say, the requests disappeared
@lesschumras- so you’re okay with your tax dollars going to public school education which you get no benefit from?
A. Having an educated public is a public good from which everyone benefits.
B. It’s well established that public school is publicly funded. As a result, you pay for it whether you have kids in the schools, your kids have long since graduated or even never had and never plan to have kids.
The Wolf
parnassah comes from shmayim and is declared on Rosh Hashanah, you think the millionaires who own B & H have degrees? The Torah is our education we dont Greek lehavdil learning.
for every B & H there is a family who is truly struggling to feed their family. They are the exception, not the rule
kfb: First, when I lived in NY, there was talk of tuition tax credits. The first thing Yeshiva’s did was raise tuition on the basis of something that never happened.
Second and even more important. Government funds ALWAYS come with strings attached. Do you want your young children learning from the book, “Johnny has two daddies?”
The less government involvement the better. Besides, haven’t they done a great job with their school systems?
Karl is absolutely correct.
every person makes whatever Hashem says on Rosh Hashana, the difference is Hashem gave us each the gift of free will which means a person can make $50,000 this year honestly or $65,000 dishonestly & get 15k of damage to his house or car C”V
THAT CHOICE IS YOURS
In the Torah in the Parsha of Shemitta & Yovel, Hashem Guarantees & promises anyone that if they keep these Halachos they will always be taken care of. (either by getting double in the Sixth year or even having extra) Where is Shemitta & Yovel TODAY in the Diaspora? Where can we find this when outside of Israel is not even responsible for these Halachos? The answer is Hashem promises anyone that if he runs his business with %100 honesty (coming to work on time & not even a minute late, never using your office time to check your personal needs or the news on the computer, paying your employees on time etc…) he is guaranteed to always have money & never have the need to struggle to make ends meet. This is where we are holding today, for those of us that have been-& still are- honest, from before the economy started going downhill in the beginning of the century. They are the people that are guaranteed to make it through the economy-even- when it crashes.
It would not bring costs down. The only thing that changes is who pays.
I just don’t understand why part of the public school teacher’s contract can’t be that they have to teach in the private schools in the afternoon.
That is actually a better idea than vouchers, however the yeshivas would never allow it, The yeshivas could decide who the teachers are , or tell them what to teach.
Theorically you could have an “alternate lifestyle” teacher teaching about evolution and there is nothing the yeshiva could do about it . (There are laws about discrimation regarding “Alternative Lifestyles” and you cant fire someone for it without breaking the law
@wolfishmusings- If all of the Jews and Christians in private schools decided to flood public schools, then it would ruin the whole system. I just don’t understand why part of the public school teacher’s contract can’t be that they have to teach in the private schools in the afternoon.
This again????
We’ve been over this before – the idea that you can just “flood” the public school system with kids and that the Board of Ed will just throw up their hands in defeat and say “OK, go to yeshiva, we’ll pay for it.”
In short, it’s not going to work, for several reasons — none of which have anything to do with a teacher’s contract.
1. There is an amendment in the New York State Constitution (and in the constitutions of many, but not all, states) that says that the state government cannot fund a school if religion is taught there or if it is controlled by a religious organization.
2. Even if every frum person in the city were to suddenly take his/her kid to public school, the amendment (commonly referred to as a Blaine Amendment) would *still* prevent the government from paying for it. If everyone did so (and, trust me, you’ll never get that to happen) all that would happen is that the BoE would send you home, tell you that they’re going to have a spot for you in a week or two and then scramble to find space. That’s all they’re legally empowered to do.
The Wolf
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