Trump vs. Biden

“Me – You can’t Resign from a position that you weren’t elected to!“

So Jen Psaki can’t resign because she wasn’t elected to being press secretary?

And if you really believe it to be true, then Trump disagrees with you (or is saying Biden was elected to the position)

Biden knows history and Senate. He will only resign when, like w/ Nixon, Senators will tell him they are going to vote to convict. A better question – whether any of the Secretaries – State, Defense or Military leaders or advisors will resign. Either, because their advice was so bad, or if their good advice was not followed.

Unfortunately, lack of public/media criticism of D- Presidents does not serve them well. With Trump, you would have seen people threating or actually resigning or being fired, when he disregarded their opinions. So, each of these disagreements was vetted through robust discussions. Even Obama
had Biden contradicting many of his decisions (killing Osama, staying in Afghanistan), forcing a discussion. With Biden, most of the discussions are happening after the disaster already happened.
Petraeus, McMaster, Bloomberg published in the last day. I don’t know whether they were quiet before, or were not quoted, or were trying to talk in private, but it is too late for a lot of innocent people.

At this point I think it’s abundantly clear that there’s no evidence that the election was stolen. The Maricopa Cyber Ninjas have spent months dragging their feet and whining that they are being stymied because they aren’t allowed to canvas door-to-door to double check the people’s votes. Mr. Pillow Man spent three days talking about nothing, claiming to have 14 terrabytes of data as proof, but refused to do anything with it other than show some brief images on a screen.

And of course, anyone who casts doubt on anything Trump says is automatically a RINO or a “lying lib”.

Trump had good reason to question the election results since based on exit polls he probably won; the correct response is that the exit polls didn’t take into account that Democrats were more likely to use absentee ballots (usually absentee and normal voting yield similar results). Trump also ignore the Republicans did well in most races, and “ballot box stuffers” never split tickets. But to say that Trump has no basis to suspect fraud is totally wrong.

In foreign affairs, Trump’s populists and Biden’s progressives all tend to be isolationist. Trump initiated the policy that Biden implemented. For obvious reasons, Biden doesn’t want to take credit for Trump’s foreign affairs policy (even though Biden has no problem claiming credit for Trump’s Covid-19 vaccines. By the standards of 1980, Trump is a RINO (and back then, he was Democrat). Expect a conservative running on platform of fiscal responsibility and a strong foreign policy to try to re-take the Republican party, and return to the policies of Ronald Reagan’s administration.

Health, the Afghan troops were trained for twenty years. They behaved like children who never grew up to be independent of their parents, the U.S. When would they be ready?

Jackk

“Nobody cares what Trump thinks or diyukim in his narishkeit.“

Yet you say

“ He can declare himself king and he will have millions of supporters agreeing.”

So I guess his supporters care

“Biden is doing a great job and exactly what he was elected to do. Most of America loves him and supports him.“

There was a poll that asked if you think Biden did a good job in Afghanistan and 69% said no

And foreign policy is his “strong point”

Yeah right

Its funny watching Trump sitting in that little room in his NJ Golf Club behind a desk and backdrop designed to make it look like he is still in the WH and issuing mindless press releases with the Presidential Seal that even Fox ignores. Its hard for him to accept that not even his long-term supporters really care what he has to say although they will still show up for a MAGA Rally as a form of entertainment by the orange blob. Biden’s screwup of the implementation of Trump’s surrender to the Taliban won’t really have much in the way of long-term effects.

It is very possible that under Trump we wouldn’t see emboldened both Hamas (Paleban) and Taliban…

Health, as much as we both wish Trump won, HE DIDNT. 5 states, millions of votes, a battle for the supreme court, and you seriously still think he won? Im not saying there was no fraud (there is fraud in every election), but definitely not millions of votes fraud. Are we not always yabbling about how the country is going so far to the left, yet you’re still saying a republican won the election in 2021???

Do the Trumpkopf acolytes really believe this stuff about 2020 or is it just a bunch of grifters looking to fundraise off their seemingly endless stream of voting machine conspiracy theory meshugaas. Last night the pillow guy Mike Lindell (aka Nostradumbaxx), coming off his cyber-symposium fiasco moved the goal posts for the fourth or fifth time and predicted that the Supreme Court would remove Biden from office this fall and “reinstate” the Trumpkopf by the “end of 2021”. (He also offered a special discount on his doggie-beds for those contributing to his forensic chavurah). In turn, Trump gave him a shoutout from the bimah calling him a brilliant patriot who was “ready to die for his country”. Its the only show in town that will provide temporary comic diversion from the tragedy evolving from Biden’s misguided Afghanistan withdrawal.

Gadol> Its the only show in town that will provide temporary comic diversion from the tragedy evolving from Biden’s misguided Afghanistan withdrawal.

A pretty round-about way to say it, but who said teshuva is easy … Maybe contact your elected officials and let them know how you feel to help reverse whatever is possible? People who voted (D) but are disappointed now are the ones who can move the politicos.

RebE > Biden listens to his competent advisors

not true factually: It is well documented that military did not like the idea of leaving Afghanistan in all administrations, and Biden was advising Obama not to listen to them long time ago.

left-wing reports describe a different picture, unfortunately: his advisors are first selected to conform to his views (see McCain objecting to Blinken appointment some years ago including his views on Afganistan), and also group-think where advisors are aware of his views and not contradicting him, partly because it is futile, partly because it is bad for their careers. Note that most advisors raised up by being Biden advisors and no other independent experience. This is as old as Sanhedrin discussions of Bar Kamtzah ..

One of the articles mentions, inter alia, a similar circumstance during Obama admin in 2014 when advisors came to 2014 meeting on Russia with certain ideas, but when they heard President advocating the opposite, they did not present their views.

Compare with Trump who had a number of people who contradicted him, sometimes he listened to them, sometimes he did not. sometimes he was right, sometimes he was not. Most of that became public before there was an action, so there were proper discussions in the society. Abrahamic accords and giving lethal weapons to Ukraine was done against State dept ideas, dealing with IS was done by allowing Dept of Defense do what they were not allowed by Obama.

RebE,> Why don’t the Biden advisors resign?
This is exactly the question everyone is asking. There is a Marine LtCol who just asked this question while still in uniform and is losing his position….

According to what I read, they do not resign because they (1) share his views to begin with, especially those without military experience (all of them in close circle except the SecDef) (2) they have nowhere to go, they grew in politics with Biden, they don’t have any other home. Again, not my view, the lefty investigators who are trying to think over the disaster. If they were to publish this earlier, maybe things would have gone differently.

Look up, for example, Sec of State bio: he went to right schools, then was deputy of this and deputy of that. His achievements include developing this and that policy, including the infamous Biden’s plan to tri-partition Iraq, Obama’s (non) “responses” to Crimea and Syria. His couple of years in “private” sector earned him a $1 mln for consulting private companies how to get contracts with the government that he just worked for. If he quits and burns bridges to the government, nobody will ever hire him.

Biden is thinner and has more hair. Also had more votes in 2020 election – popular and electoral.

Nothing the LOSER (Trump) says to his sycophants is of interest to me. These fools continue to send money to support a lost cause. It reminds me of the framed $5,000 Confederates States of America Bind this is on the wall in my office. Some brainwashed fool sunk the family fortune into a losing cause in 1865. He got to cash exactly ONE interest coupon and was left with a worthless piece of paper.
Trumpsters are throwing good money after bad and the grifter in chief and his family continue to live lavishly on other people’s money.

I see that CTL is still stricken with Trump Derangement Syndrome. 🙁

Refuah shelimah

Ctlawyer, what I mean is that Biden’s overall popularity among independents fell from 61% in January to 37% in September. It is overall view of his inability to do anything at all. On Afghanistan, professional views differ on whether it was wise or not to stay or go, but they are united viewing execution as total failure, combined with lame attempts to blame everyone else. Now, still, veteran groups are working phones on their own trying to get their Afghan colleagues at least hidden for a time, with no immediate hope of getting them out.

On a related topic of achievements. WSJ today preforms insightful analysis of hospital pricing data on COVID treatments. They mention, inter alia, that this analysis was made possible due to “recent” federal regulations that forced hospitals to post the data. No mention that these were Trump’s regulations. Not one of 100 commenters recalls that. With such human memories and media air cover, Biden has hopes that in 12 months, nobody will remember about Afghanistan or inability to vaccinate population…

The way Biden left Afghanistan was the worst, except for all the other ways that his predecessors left Afghanistan.

@Always………………….
Jews always supported Polish during Napoleonic times…(early 1800s). A lot of good it did when the Poles collaborated with the Nazis.

My of my ancestral lines was from Suwalki. B”H they got out in the 1870s.
I have been to Poland a number of the times in the 1980s on business. I could not wait to leave. I felt as if I had a target on my back. I did not get that feeling in other Eastern Bloc countries or in Germany.

As to your supposition that Solidarity led to 1+ million Soviet Jews being freed, I think that is quite a stretch. There were many reasons why the Soviet Union and later Russia were glad to be rid of 1+ million Jews.

huju, veterans I talked to differ on the value of going and staying in Afghanistan, but are united in their opinion on what happened recently.

Ctlawyer, I think your feelings are justified but they do not reflect the whole truth. Poles as a country did not collaborate, they were fighting against two cruel superpowers. They were a little deluded between the wars, Jews included. Jewish memoirs report that Jews expected that Polish cavalry will push the Germans back and were SHOCKED that the airplanes over Warsaw turned out to be German and not Polish… Read about Jews and Poles evacuated from USSR during WW2 via Iran: while Poles did favor the ethnic Poles, they organized help for Jews also.

I am not saying that Solidarity per se achieved something, but they were pushing against the Soviets more than anyone else. Soviet dissidents, including Jews, were bravely doing interviews with BBC and hunger strikes in prison , Poles were taking over cities. I know it is always