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October 1, 2024 11:06 am at 11:06 am #2320429crazykanoiyParticipant
We need to think rationally and seriously. We need to consider some very unsettling trends without an emotional attachment to a candidate and political movement.
1) Trump has expressed his displeasure at Jews and considers them ungrateful and has begun to publicly blame them for his poor polling.
2) Trump has dispatched his Arab son-in-law Boulos and his Lebanese father to Michigan to win over the anti-Israel vote. This week the mayor of a Muslim majority city in Michigan and leader of the uncommitted movement Amer Ghalib publicly backed Trump. Which begs the question what is the Trump campaign promising them?
3) Trump has taken a position that is generally seen as positive for Putin with regard to Ukraine. Putin had developed an unholy alliance with Iran. Iran had provided Putin with weapons and Putin had aided Iran.
4) Trump is on record calling Hizbullah very smart and has remained silent on Israel’s current campaign in Lebanon. His public support for these military actions is virtually non-existent
5) Post his election loss in 2020. Trump blasted Bibi and said Abbas is a father like figure who wants peace more than Bibi.These developments should be concerning to all who care for America and Israel.
October 1, 2024 11:53 am at 11:53 am #2320742crazykanoiyParticipant6) Jared and Ivanka are also no longer affiliated with the campaign. They are no longer actively campaigning. Jared was responsible for the Abraham Accords and many pardons and clemencies.
7) Trump and Vance have espoused an isolationist America First policy that shuns spending American money on foreign wars or sending American troops into harm’s way. Today, the US has positioned aircraft carriers in the Middle East and has deployed troops to Cyprus and other forward launching areas in case they are needed in Israel’s defense. Can a Trump / Vance administration be counted on to spend US taxpayer dollars and deploy military assets in defense of Israel? If, at 80 years old, Trump is unable to fill out his term, would an isolatinist Vance, who espouses foreign policy ideas aligned with those of Tucker Carlson, have Israel’s back?October 1, 2024 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #23207692scentsParticipantcrazy,
1. There are way more objective actions and statements by Trump that are favorable for Jews. To nitpick a few bits and pieces is not helpful.
2. Calling an enemy smart is not the same as siding with them, as the left openly does.
3. Trump is not friendly towards Putin, but he is the one making decisions about the biggest war currently being fought. Being willing to negotiate with Putin is not the same as being friends with him. Trump’s position is that Putin would not dare to cross him and start a war, he acknowledged multiple times that Putin is no good man. In fact, Putin doesn’t even want Trump.
October 1, 2024 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #2320829akupermaParticipantThey are both “good” or “bad” for the Jews, but in different ways.
Harris’s close alliance and past association with the Progressive (WOKE) wing of her party is very threatening since they are active anti-Semites.
Trump’s willingness to accept support from far night the anti-Semitic activists is probably less threatening, since the right-wing anti-Semites have minimal support whereas the left-wing anti-Semites are a large movement and probably control the Democratic Party.
MAGA’s isolationism is threatening to Israel (and the world) but is not based on anti-Semitism, whereas the Progressive position is that Israel (and Jews who support Israel, and all non-assimilated Jews are presumed to be zionists) is evil and should be destroyed (and they act on this belief by attacking Jews in America and around the world).
October 1, 2024 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #2320914crazykanoiyParticipant8) Trump has been outspoken about antisemitism on the left but has never confronted antisemitism when it came from his supporters. If Trump is truly committed to fighting antisemitism why hasn’t he ever said anything about antisemitism on the right? Why no condemnation of MTG, Mark Robinson or Royce White? Why nothing about Tucker? Why no apology for inviting Kanye and Fuentes to Mar a lago?
October 1, 2024 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #2320925Baruch DParticipantVery well articulated.
October 1, 2024 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #2320953SQUARE_ROOTParticipantYou forget to mention that Donald Trump has a Jewish daughter
(who he loves very much) and JEWISH GRANDCHILDEN.
That is a big omission, in my opinion.You also forget to mention that that Kamala Harris is a SOCIALIST,
and/or a member of the “Progressive” political far-Left.The Socialists and/or the “Progressive” political far-Left
both want to WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP.Notice that the Socialists and “Progressives” do not merely
want Israel to get news laws or a new Prime Minister;
they want 100% of Israel to be 100% eliminated, PERMANENTLY,
and replaced and an Arab-Muslim-Terrorist dictatorship,
where Islam is the ONLY truly tolerated religion,
and Jews either do not exist at all,
or exist as a relentlessly persecuted minority, with no rights.Obviously, the Socialists and “Progressives” do not care,
if they inflict another Holocaust on the Jews of Israel.That is what Kamala Harris and her political friends believe in.
Regardless of what Donald Trump’s flaws are,
at least he does not want to cause another Holocaust,
nor does he want to replace Israel with
a brutal Arab-Muslim-Terrorist dictatorship.October 1, 2024 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #2321005yechiellParticipantWell said !
October 1, 2024 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #2321016SQUARE_ROOTParticipantJames Bickerton wrote this in Newsweek Magazine:
Famed attorney Alan Dershowitz has announced his departure
from the Democratic Party following what he called the
“most anti-Jewish, anti-Israel, anti-Zionist convention”
he has experienced.The lawyer and Harvard Law professor emeritus made the announcement
during an appearance on the Talkline With Zev Brenner podcast
shortly after the Democratic National Convention,
which took place in Chicago from August 19 to August 22.
….
During his interview with radio host Zev Brenner, Dershowitz said:
“I am no longer a Democrat. I am an independent.” He added,
“A lot of things pushed me in that direction,” citing Vice President
Kamala Harris’ decision not to preside over Netanyahu’s address
to a joint session of Congress in July
and rhetoric at the Democratic National Convention.“I was disgusted at the Democratic National Convention.
Absolutely disgusted,” he said.Dershowitz continued: “They had more anti-Jewish,
anti-Zionist people who were speaking, starting with
[Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]—a miserable anti-Zionist bigot.“Then, of course, they had [Senator Elizabeth] Warren,
who is one of the most anti-Jewish people in the Senate.
Then they had Bernie Sanders,
one of the most anti-Jewish people in the Senate.”
….
The lawyer [Alan Dershowitz] also said that had Pennsylvania Governor
Josh Shapiro not been Jewish, he likely would have been chosen
as [Kamala] Harris’ running mate.
“I understand that if his name were John Sheppard,
not Josh Shapiro, he would have been the democratic nominee,” he said.SOURCE: article titled: “Alan Dershowitz Quits Democratic Party,
Slams ‘Anti-Zionist’ DNC”
by James Bickerton, for Newsweek Magazine, 2024 September 7October 1, 2024 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #2321018SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfrom matzav (dot) com:
The New York Times has acknowledged that
statements made by former President Donald Trump
regarding Vice President Kamala Harris’s support for
taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries for
“illegal aliens” in custody were “essentially accurate.”SOURCE: article titled: “NY Times Admits Trump Is Right:
Harris Backed Gender Surgeries for ‘Illegal Aliens’”
2024 September 14 www (dot) matzav (dot) comOctober 1, 2024 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #2321019SQUARE_ROOTParticipantCongresswoman Elise Stefanik said:
“Because as bad as Joe Biden is, Kamala Harris is worse.
Kamala Harris won’t merely withhold support for Israel.
She will actively undermine Israel’s self-defense….”She [Congresswoman Elise Stefanik] went on to
praise Trump effusively for his long,
historic track record of supporting Israel.SOURCE: article titled: “Stefanik Slams Kamala,
Praises Trump at pro-Israel Summit”
by Baruch Green September 22, 2024 www (dot) VINnews (dot) comOctober 1, 2024 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #2321021SQUARE_ROOTParticipantCongresswoman Elise Stefanik said:
“At each and every turn, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden
have stood in Israel’s way, and they have turned
their back on Israel and the Jewish people.For everyone who cares about the safety and existence
of the Jewish state, Kamala Harris’ disdain for Israel and
alignment with radical Far Left Hamas terrorist sympathizers
should instantly disqualify her from any office–let alone
President of the United States.She [Kamala Harris] is a disgrace and must never
step foot in the Oval Office as Commander-in-chief…”SOURCE: article titled: “Stefanik Slams Kamala,
Pserais Trump at pro-Israel Summit”
by Baruch Green September 22, 2024 www (dot) VINnews (dot) comOctober 1, 2024 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #2321022SQUARE_ROOTParticipantfrom Mark Matson and matzav (dot) com:
Mark Matson, a financial expert and author of
Experiencing the American Dream,
shared with Breitbart News his strong views on how
Vice President Kamala Harris’s policies could jeopardize
the American Dream, calling them a “destroyer” of that ideal.
….
He referred to a Wall Street Journal study
that defines key components of the American Dream,
such as: home ownership, starting a family
and raising children, sending children to college,
and enjoying a secure retirement.“All of these things became more difficult under this
[Kamala Harris] administration,” [Mark] Matson remarked.Matson further criticized [Kamala] Harris’s policy proposals,
including higher taxes, price controls, and increased regulations,
all of which he believes stand in opposition to the American Dream.“These policies,” [Mark]Matson declared, “are an American dream destroyer.”
….
[Mark] Matson emphasized the need to preserve
the Trump-era tax cuts, warning that their expiration
could result in tax hikes of 20 to 30 percent for Americans.SOURCE: article titled: “Financial Expert: Kamala Harris’s Tax Policies
Are an ‘American Dream Destroyer’”
September 15, 2024 www (dot) matzav (dot) comOctober 1, 2024 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #2321026SQUARE_ROOTParticipantCaroline B. Glick said this on Jewish News Syndicate:
Since October 7, [2023] [Kamala] Harris has been
the most outspoken critic of Israel in the administration.Just three weeks after the Hamas invasion, and in the midst
of the worst eruptions of antisemitism in the United States
in 90 years, Harris announced on X that the Biden administration
would develop “the first ever U.S. National Strategy to Counter Islamophobia.”She [Kamala Harris] then added, falsely,
“As the result of the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel
and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, we have seen
an uptick in anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab
and Islamophobic incidents across America.”Last week [Kamala] Harris raised concerns about her commitment
to Israel’s security when she met with the heads of the most viciously
anti-Israel and pro-Hamas group in the Democratic party
ahead of an election rally in Michigan.Harris spoke with the heads of the so-called “Uncommitted National Movement,”
the group that convinced thousands of pro-Hamas voters in Michigan
to vote “uncommitted” rather than vote for Biden in the Michigan primaries.According to the Washington Free Beacon, the two leaders in
the conversation with Harris were Abbas Alawieh, former chief of staff
for Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.), and Layla Elabed, sister of Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.).Tlaib and Bush, of course are outspoken in their hatred for Israel
and for American Jews who support Israel. After losing her
Democratic primary in a landslide defeat on Aug. 6, Bush
committed herself to destroying the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
In her words, “AIPAC, I’m coming to tear your kingdom down!”Alawieh and Elabed told [Kamala] Harris that they want the
United States to impose an arms embargo on Israel.
Harris reportedly responded that she is “open” to a discussion
on the issue. While Harris’s aides have breathlessly insisted
that she never expressed any support for an arms embargo
and that she opposes an arms embargo, Harris supported
the administration’s decision to block shipments
of several critical weapons systems to Israel.In late March she [Kamala Harris] threatened Israel with “
consequences,” if it defied the administration’s wishes
and began a ground operation in Rafah.In mid-March, [Kamala] Harris stood at a historic Civil Rights
movement-era site in Selma, Alabama and
intimated that Israel was committing war crimes in Gaza.Referring to humanitarian conditions in the terror enclave
as a “catastrophe,” [Kamala] Harris said,
“What we’re seeing every day in Gaza is devastating.
We have seen reports of families eating leaves or animal feed.
Women giving birth to malnourished babies with little to no medical care.
Children dying from malnutrition and dehydration.”She [Kamala Harris] then wagged her finger and said,
“The Israeli government must do more to
significantly increase the flow of aid. No excuses.”None of [Kamala] Harris’s descriptions were accurate.
By giving voice to the slanders, the vice president
facilitated the anti-Israel and anti-Jewish riots that
were taking place on U.S. campuses, and provided support
to the International Court of Justice at the Hague
and its Kafkaesque trial of Israel for genocide.[Kamala] Harris’s national security adviser Phil Gordon
has a long history of pro-Iran and pro-Hamas positions….SOURCE: article titled: “Trump’s rhetoric vs. Harris’s policies”
by Caroline B. Glick 2024 August 11
www (dot) jns (dot) org Jewish News SyndicateOctober 1, 2024 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #2321100Neville Chaimberlin Lo MesParticipantSquare root: Proving that Democrats are bad for the Jews does not prove that Trump is good. You can have more than one bad guy. Funny that the religious Zionists finally have their best chance to say that the situation for Jews in America is possibly very dire, but they’re too busy kissing up to Trump to notice.
I don’t understand the current conservative minhag of ignoring the Tucker Carlson problem. He is very likely the most influential anti-Semite/neo-Nazi type person in the history of The US. There have been other extremists, but never with this kind of following. Why are random, stupid college kids the Democrats’ problem, but extremely mainstream conservative pundits are not the Republicans’ problem?
October 1, 2024 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #2321106GadolhadorahParticipantIts all about HIM
As the missiles were landing around EY this AM, Trump’s first thoughts (and posts on his Truth Social site) were how none of this would have happened if HE was President and how he will magically “end the Israeli war” on his first day of returning to office (just like he will end the war in Ukraine, stop all illegal immigration, put a man on Mars etc. all on his first day in office). Not a word of sympathy for the people of EY or even the families of those killed in the terrorist attack at the light-rail station in Tel Aviv. But lots of words about HIM and some sick jokes about Biden who had just ordered U.S. navy ships to intercept the incoming missiles.
October 1, 2024 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #2321116GadolhadorahParticipantAt this point, perhaps the question that needs to be asked if he is remotely “good for the country”. He just pulled out of the 60 Minutes interviews that he and Harris had agreed to for this weekend. Apparently, his campaign team – after watching him over the last three days of increasingly unhinged and unstable ranting at his rallies, and this morning’s rants over the Iran missile attack, is clearly afraid of exposing him beyond comfortable forums such as NewsMax. Remember that back in October 2020, just before he lost the election , he had a meltdown on 60 Minutes and ran off the set when he apparently objected to Leslie Stahl’s questions.
October 1, 2024 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #2321121crazykanoiyParticipant9) Another factor to consider is that pro-Israel stalwarts such as Mike Pence, Nikki Hailey and Josh Bolton who are all part of the old traditional GOP and had a strong part in influencing the 2016-2020 Trump administration have now been marginalized. Even Senators like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are not in the inside MAGA loop. Those that currently have Trump’s ear hail from the America First element of the GOP that shuns American intervention outside its borders.
October 1, 2024 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #2321128SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Pinchos Lipschutz of Matzav dot com said:
“The Democrat Party that controls the White House and Senate
is openly anti-Semitic and hostile toward Israel and Jews.It is led by a weak, incompetent leader, who caused inflation to skyrocket,
eroded the moral fabric of the country, and opened the borders
to millions of unknown and undocumented people from around the world.”SOURCE: article titled: “Truly Historic”
by Rabbi Pinchos Lipschutz 2024 June 27 on Matzav dot com=======================================
PERSONAL COMMENT: The number of ILLEGAL ALIENS that
President Joe Biden allowed to enter the USA is
more than ten million: > 10,000,000.
They include: convicted criminals, members of violent
gangs that sell illegal drugs, Chinese spies, Chinese soldiers,
Chinese Police Officers, and people with infectious diseases.October 1, 2024 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #2321130SQUARE_ROOTParticipantWISCONSIN (VINnews) — Jewish activist Shabbos Kestenbaum,
a Harvard graduate who has filed a lawsuit against the university
over its antisemitism, will be speaking at the Republican National Convention.In a tweet, Kestenbaum announced that he voted for Bernie Sanders
last election, however his views have changed because of
what his classmates were doing while Jews were being slaughtered.The Convention’s website says that Shabbos is a “lifelong Democrat”
who will be voting for president [Donald] Trump for the first time.SOURCE: article titled: “Shabbos Kestenbaum,
Formerly a Bernie Sanders Supporter,
to Speak at GOP Convention”
by Baruch Green 2024 July 15 VINnews (dot) comOctober 1, 2024 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #2321131SQUARE_ROOTParticipantNews Reporter Rikki Schlott of The New York Post said:
With the 2024 election almost upon us, Donald Trump is gaining a new cohort of voters:
Jewish Americans who feel abandoned by the left.According to exit polls, 77 percent of Jewish voters went for Biden in 2020.
But a recent poll from the Jewish Electoral Institute found
the president has lost 10 points on his lead against his rival.Between college protests erupting into chants for an “intifada revolution,”
Democrats like Jamaal Bowman leaning hard into pro-Palestine messaging,
and progressive organizations like Black Lives Matter chapters
celebrating the October 7th terrorist attacks,
many Jewish Americans feel abandoned by their party.Some lifelong Jewish Democrats feel an explosion of left-wing antisemitism
has pushed them to re-register as Republicans — and vote for Trump.The Post spoke to four local Jewish voters who made the switch in the wake of October 7th:
[1] Melissa Chapman always considered herself a bleeding heart liberal
— but she left the Democratic party after she claims it “betrayed” Jewish people.“I’ve always been a Democrat, and I really believed that the Democrats
were going to protect me, because I’ve done everything a good Democrat should do,”
the 50-year-old Staten Islander told The Post.
“Then October 7th happened, and I was completely abandoned.”Chapman, a mom of two, runs a blog where she champions progressive causes,
from LGBT rights and animal rights to Black History Month.However, after the Hamas attacks which killed 1,200 and took another 250 hostage,
prompting Israel’s military to respond in Gaza, she found herself
castigated online in the progressive social media communities she’d long been a part of.“Even on my vegan Facebook communities, all the recipes
became about freeing Palestine, somehow,” she said.
“If you dissented in any way, you either got bullied, shamed,
or just kicked out of the group. I was literally abandoned
by every single community that I poured my heart into.”In total, Chapman was booted from 20 online communities
and called all manner of names, from ‘colonizer’
to ‘genocide supporter’ and ‘baby killer’.“I was told to go back to Poland,” she recalled.
“One person told me they hope that I burn in the ovens.If you support Israel, you’re immediately considered someone
who’s supporting genocide, which is not, by definition, even true —
but it doesn’t matter because buzzwords are taking over like wildfire.”The experience of being squeezed out of progressive spaces
caused Chapman to re-register as a Republican.“It’s a horrible time to support Israel and be a Democrat,
and I just don’t think there’s any space for us anymore,” she said.
“As a Jew, you have to disown Israel in order
to be accepted into the Democratic community.”The post-October 7th reaction has caused Chapman to
think often of her late father, who was a Holocaust survivor:
“If he were alive today, I don’t know what he would say.
I don’t know, but would he say this is like
what happened in Germany before Hitler took over?”As we head into election season, Chapman “1000%” plans
to vote Republican down the ticket,
from the local level to the presidential level.“I never thought I would be voting Republican in my entire life,” she said.
“But it’s like living in a twilight zone. As a Jew living in America,
I don’t believe the Democratic Party has my best interest at heart.”[2] After a lifetime as a Democrat, Danny Cohen decided
his party now “has a cancer” in the form of antisemitism.“There’s been a hijacking of the Democratic Party,” Cohen, 56 of Brooklyn,
told The Post. “Right now the Democratic Party has a cancer.
It seems like all the antisemitism is just coming out of the woodwork.”In the wake of October 7th, Cohen changed his party registration to Republican.
“The response from the left really shook me to my core,”
Cohen, who was raised in a Syrian Jewish community in Brooklyn, said.“I can’t be part of that party anymore. I don’t want
to have anything to do with these people.As a Jewish person, Cohen says he feels uniquely unsupported by the left:
“It’s no longer a party that is fighting for human rights
because you can’t fight for human rights, except for Jewish rights.”Over the past year, the standup comic says left-wing antisemitism has been overwhelming.
“We have ‘The Squad.’ We see what’s going on in college campuses.
We see what’s going on during these protests.
It’s taking to the streets, and it’s getting crazy,” he said.“I’m not saying that there isn’t any hate in the Republican party —
we have the KKK, the Proud Boys, Charlottesville — but they
can’t even hold a candle to the scale of what’s going on on the other side.”Accordingly, Cohen is planning to vote Republican for the first time.
“I’m passionate. I’m excited about it, actually,” he said.
“It’s a fight against Jew hatred,
and so now I’m excited about voting for Trump.”[3] Sarah Sarkin once took to the streets to protest Trump’s election
in 2016, waving an “Anybody but Trump” poster.
Now she’s voting for him in 2024.“Being a mother and watching everything that happened in October
made me make the switch,” Sarkin, who is raising her infant son in Syracuse, said.
“Those images are still seared and tattooed into my memory,
and it was just horrifying to see some of the reactions on the left.”Although she considered herself “as Democrat as can be”
until recently, Sarkin, 31, re-registered as a Republican.“It was a lot of silence on the left, and that really speaks so loudly
to how a party that I once thought was for equality and
for protecting us is really not for equal rights,” Sarkin told The Post.“Being a liberal was such a big part of my identity,
so it was a weird thing for me to switch over.
But I’m at a different part of my life now, and it’s time for me to change.”After October 7th, the safety of her family and Jewish community
became Sarkin’s number one priority, as a voter and as a mother.Her local mom’s group chats were flooded with panicked posts
about safety, local protests, and whether or not to send kids to school
on the “International Day of Jihad,” called for by an ex-Hamas
leader on Oct. 13. Out of fear for their security, Sarkin and
her husband also decided to become first-time gun owners this year.“I had never even held a gun, and it was scary,
but we wanted to learn how to protect ourselves,” Sarkin said.
“This became very real for us very soon. It happened in Israel,
but it can certainly happen here.”As November nears, Sarkin plans to cast her ballot for Trump
because she believes his commitment to Israel is more resounding.“At least for me, I need someone who’s a fighter and who knows where they stand.
[4] Marin Faiella: ‘I’ve never voted Republican before’
Marin Faiella has never voted Republican in her life,
but this November she’ll be casting her ballot for Trump.“I think at the end of the day, it’s clear whose policies are aligned with a safer,
stronger allied relationship with Israel,” she told The Post.Faiella has always considered herself staunchly pro-choice
and generally progressive. But October 7th upended her priorities.“My number one priority is overall safety and security for myself as a Jewish person,” Faiella said.
“If your basic 101 safety isn’t in place, then you can’t really advocate for any additional rights.”Faiella, who lives in the West Village and works in real estate,
says pro-Palestine demonstrations in New York City have been a wake-up call.“I saw what was on the streets — celebrations, people shouting
and dressed as terrorists here in New York City,” she recalled.
“After October 7th, I was just scared to death,
in terms of being a Jewish person in the city.”The progressives’ reaction to October 7th inspired her to change
her registration from Democrat to Republican last November,
but she says “the writing has been on the wall.”“There were plenty of warnings that were preludes to what
we’re seeing out in the open now, like Bella Hadid and
the woke crowd that have been all in on Free Palestine,”
Faiella said. Hadid is of Palestinian descent.Although she was initially conflicted about re-registering
as a Republican, she is feeling confident in her choice.“I’m not anti-Democrat, but I’m definitely anti-extreme Democrats,” she said.
“I continue to feel more and more confident
and comfortable in my skin and my new affiliation.
I can always change back, but this is where I feel
it’s appropriate to be at this point in time.”For Faiella, it all comes down to fundamental safety for the Jewish community.
“We could be Germany [in the] 1930s if we didn’t have
the government and law enforcement on our side,” she warned.
“If that ever changed, we wouldn’t be safe here anymore.”SOURCE: article titled: “Meet the Jewish Americans
who feel abandoned by the Democrats, now voting Republican for the first time”
by Rikki Schlott 2024 July 9, The New York Post, www (dot) NYPost (dot) orgOctober 1, 2024 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #2321133SQUARE_ROOTParticipantJonathan S. Tobin (editor-in-chief of Jewish News Syndicate) said:
“It was an open secret in Washington that even in an administration
that was staffed largely by Obama-era alumni, [Vice President Kamala] Harris
was the most openly sympathetic to the Palestinians
and the least inclined to stand with a Jewish state
that had suffered the worst mass slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust.From the start of the war that was launched by Hamas on Oct. 7 [2023],
she has been careful not to go too far in denouncing Israel’s effort
to defeat the terrorists in Gaza, but she [Kamala Harris]
has also repeatedly recycled Hamas propaganda about Palestinian casualties.Though left-wing Jews are already mobilizing to loyally vouch for her,
her position is essentially one of moral equivalence
between Israel and the people who committed murder, rape,
kidnapping and wanton destruction on Oct. 7 [2023],
while supporting a genocidal terror group bent on Israel’s destruction.”SOURCE: article titled: “Do Kamala Harris
and the Democrats have a Jewish problem?”
by Jonathan S. Tobin (editor-in-chief of Jewish News Syndicate)
2024 July 23, www (dot) JNS (dot) orgOctober 1, 2024 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #2321145SQUARE_ROOTParticipantAndrew Stein (a Democrat who served as New York City
Council President from 1986 to 1994) said this:In 1968, I ran as a Democrat in my first primary election,
as I sought to become a New York state Assemblyman.I fought four more tough primary races against fellow Democrats
David Dinkins and Robert Wagner Jr. as we vied to become
Manhattan borough president, and yet another in 1985 against
Ken Lipper to become City Council president. In every primary
I had to work my butt off to prove myself to my party and my constituents.
Those races made me a better public servant and a better man.That’s what the democratic process is for — and what the Democratic Party
is all about: testing our candidates through primary contests and giving our voters a voice.
This is not happening with Kamala Harris.
And it’s one of the reasons the Democratic Party will lose to Donald Trump in November.If they actually wanted to live up to their name, Democratic leaders
would insist on an open convention where delegates
could freely select a presidential nominee in Joe Biden’s place.Instead, [Kamala] Harris is getting a free ride from the media
and from many in her party:
Those who failed to pass [Joe] Biden off as competent
are now highly motivated to try to position [Kamala] Harris a
s someone who’s qualified to be president.
The anti-Trump press is ready to deify her,
Hollywood donors are poised to fill her coffers,
and the left is going all out to maintain their power.Only one problem: [Kamala] Harris is utterly unqualified for the job.
[Kamala] Harris was one of the worst vice presidents in history,
an abject failure at virtually every task except for casting tie-breaker voters
for big spending bills that caused the inflation we’re all suffering through.Instead, she fixed it for the left — letting millions of unauthorized immigrants (*)
pour into this country and then backing free healthcare for them all.She has no foreign-policy experience, with a background as a
California “prosecutor” and less than a full term in the US Senate.She has not been tested on the national stage in any serious way
and got zero votes as a failed presidential candidate.She is turning her back on our democratic ally Israel,
even as it faces attacks on three sides from
Iranian proxies who are holding Americans hostage.Her stance only gives comfort to Hamas and signals
the continuation of weak-kneed pro-Iran policies.This week, in her first speech as a 2024 candidate,
she promised massive new spending programs.
As a senator, she backed the full $10 trillion Green New Deal.So a vote for [Kamala] Harris is a vote for spending that could
kick off another round of inflation, continued open borders
costing us billions, higher energy prices and electric vehicle mandates.There isn’t a left-wing idea out there that [Kamala] Harris
has not supported, from the transgender agenda
to banning private health insurance altogether.Her idea of freedom is joining a union,
not fostering American individualism and innovation.
Her idea of the future is expanded government handouts for virtually everything.
Despite [Kamala] Harris’ trademark cackle, her election would be no laughing matter.All of the flaws and mistakes of the Biden-Harris administration
will be magnified if the veep [Vice President] makes it to the Oval Office.
She is nothing but the Great Pretender, the sequel.Donald Trump has had to survive false accusations of racism,
fines meant to bankrupt him, partisan lawsuits in an attempt to jail him,
an assassin’s bullet — and now even a second
presidential opponent, after demolishing his first one.Don’t be fooled by all the [Kamala] Harris hype: She is nothing
but a new mask for the left, a failed vice president who
in nearly four years on the job never did anything to distinguish herself.As an elected Democratic official for 25 years,
I could not in good conscience vote for Kamala Harris.
I would have to vote for Donald Trump.(*) NOTE: Eleven million [11,000,000] illegal aliens.
SOURCE: article titled: “I ran in Democratic primaries for 25 years
— the Kamala Harris coronation is a betrayal”
by Andrew Stein 2024 July 24, The New York Post, www dot NYPost dot comOctober 2, 2024 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #2321241Neville Chaimberlin Lo MesParticipantSquare: If I post 10,000 times about how Hezbollah is bad, does that prove that Hamas is good? You’ve wasted your breath.
October 2, 2024 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #2321249crazykanoiyParticipantSquare Root: Reposting numerous lengthy cut and paste articles from long time pro-Trump politicians and pundits like Elise Stefanik, Caroline Glick, Rabbi Lipshutz and more does not address the points raised or add to the quality of the conversation. We are well.awate that there are many avid supporters of Trump and MAGA. A simple perusal of “frum” media will lead to many articles that rehash Trumpian arguments. However reposting these articles does not address the highly problematic issues with Trump and his candidacy that were raised. These very worrying signs that should give us all pause and cause for concern.
October 2, 2024 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #2321250crazykanoiyParticipant10) Trump and Vance have engaged in racist rhetoric towards legal Haitian migrants. All minority groups including Jews must be vigilant regarding the acceptance of openly racist ideas and concepts by mainstream politicians.
11) On a more mundane financial note. Trump’s tariffs are essentially a consumption tax that will increase the price of all imports on the many products bought by large frum families including clothing. This regressive tax will harm larger families that spend more on basic necessities. There is a compelling argument that the proposals of increased child tax credit, earned income credit and first time homeowners grant proposed by Trump’s opponent would be advantageous for the majority of frum families. The financial argument is less of an obvious issue than the ones mentioned above but perhaps it should be considered as well.October 6, 2024 10:02 am at 10:02 am #2321406SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThis short article is from www (dot) matzav (dot) com:
During Thursday’s episode of Newsmax TV’s “The Record,” Harvard Law School
Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz commented on Vice President Kamala Harris,
a Democratic presidential candidate for 2024.He [Alan Dershowitz] stated that [Kamala] Harris
“seemed to create a moral equivalence” and added,
“she was trying to appeal both to her left-wing,
anti-Israel people and to the pro-Israel people.
You can’t do that by creating a false moral equivalence.”[Alan] Dershowitz said, “Let’s remember that people are trying
to make a [false] moral equivalence between Hamas and Israel.Even the Vice President, Kamala Harris, in her statement,
seemed to create a moral equivalence between the suffering
of the Gazans and the people who were killed in Israel.The difference is this:
The people who are suffering in Gaza are suffering as a result of Hamas.
Hamas is using them as human shields.
Hamas is the one who is taking their food away.
Hamas is the one who is firing rockets from mosques and schools.So, there is no moral equivalence between Israel’s self-defense actions,
which are trying to minimize civilian deaths,
and Hamas’ attempts to increase civilian deaths.”SOURCE: article titled: “Dershowitz: Harris Trying to Appeal
to ‘anti-Israel’ Crowd with ‘Moral Equivalence’ Between Hamas, Israel”
2024 July 26, www (dot) matzav (dot) comOctober 6, 2024 10:02 am at 10:02 am #2321407SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThis article is also from www (dot) matzav (dot) com:
Shortly after the October 7 [2023] attack, [Vice President Kamala] Harris
expressed her support for pro-Hamas college students, stating,
“I do understand their concerns and I will never attempt to
stifle or silence young people from expressing their concerns.”When Israel announced plans to target Hamas in Rafah,
[Vice President Kamala] Harris opposed the move, arguing on ABC
that it was not feasible and citing her knowledge from studying maps.On October 17, when a protester accused the United States and
Israel of committing “genocide,” [Kamala] Harris responded,
“I appreciate you raising the subject and I appreciate your leadership.”As a senator, [Kamala] Harris also showed her ambivalence
toward Israel by voting against federal anti-BDS legislation,
which passed overwhelmingly in 2019.Political analysts suggest that a shift from [Joe] Biden to [Kamala] Harris
could alienate Jewish Democrats, many of whom prioritize Israel.“Pro-Israel Democratic voters are going to hold their noses in many cases
and vote for Trump. Because Trump may be bad, but no Israel is worse,”
said Hank Sheinkopf, a veteran Democratic consultant.“The pro-Israel Democratic community is shrinking and it will shrink further
with Kamala Harris because she’s been very clear about how she feels.She has limited respect for the most important ally America has in
the Middle East and an ally that is now fighting a proxy war at
great cost against America’s greatest enemy, which is Iran,” Sheinkopf added.SOURCE: article titled: “EXPOSED: Kamala Harris Has Long Line
of Anti-Israel Statements Following Hamas’ Oct. 7 Terrorist Attacks”
2024 July 27 www (dot) matzav (dot) comOctober 6, 2024 10:02 am at 10:02 am #2321412Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantSen Vance had a good argument yesterday (T mentioned it also at the end of his debate). Dems present very very appealing ideas – but why didn’t you implement them in the last 3.5 years?
This is the core issue – all progressive ideas sound very appealing: why not “give” everyone $50,000 to have a house, to go to college, to have a child, to have a new kiddush cup. Not all of these ideas are bad, some are good. It sometimes takes years to see what works and what does not. The only serious counter-argument is to consider reality and experience. This election is very special – we have two candidates who were either Pres or VP. They have track record. Consider that before engaging in all your hypotheticals. This is what we are told how we verify whether someone is a true navi or sheker – make them do predictions and see if they happen. Maybe if we introduce capital punishment for politicians and economists shekarim, elections will be easier to bear.
October 6, 2024 10:03 am at 10:03 am #2321627MosheFromMidwoodParticipantDespite all this “worrying,” can anyone with a half brain really vote for Harris and expect it to be good for this country? It will just be four more years of Biden/Obama and a very leftist Democrat party. So no one is going to be perfect for the Jews and Trump has proved enough that he is in our corner while Biden/Harris waffle whichever way the wind blows
October 6, 2024 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #2321712pekakParticipantTariffs ensure that manafacturing comes back to the States and it creates American jobs.
October 6, 2024 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #2321762SQUARE_ROOTParticipantMr. Daniel Greenfield said this:
“The idea that terrorists attack because they hate freedom,
however, is misguided,” Philip Gordon wrote in “Winning the Right War.”
“Even most of the Muslims who support terrorism and
trust Osama bin Laden favor elected government” and “personal liberty.”[Philip] Gordon, [ex-President] Obama’s future Middle East coordinator,
explained in his book that Muslim terrorists weren’t “born evil” and
did not “hate our freedoms”, but rather feel “shame”
over the state of “a once great Islamic civilization”
surpassed by other cultures including “the local upstart, Israel.”America was “creating conditions” that “generate” Islamic terrorism
by detaining Al Qaeda terrorists, failing to punish American soldiers
and “justifying any Israeli military action.” Gordon urged the White House
to assure Iran that we have “no intention of using military force
against Iran or fomenting internal dissent”
because “Iran’s concerns about such issues are legitimate.”Published in 2007 by an imprint of The New York Times,
[Philip] Gordon’s book was a blueprint of the policies the
Obama administration would adopt, including blaming America and Israel,
appeasing Iran and Islamists and making Muslims feel better about themselves.
These are the building blocks of the policies that led us
to Oct. 7 [2023] and an Iranian war across the region.Today, [Philip] Gordon is Kamala’s national security adviser,
and possible future secretary of state.[Philip] Gordon’s hostility toward Israel and sympathy for
Islamic terrorists is a longstanding matter. Even before
joining the Biden administration, he had co-written an article
with Iran lobby figure Robert Malley, currently under FBI investigation
for mishandling classified documents, urging Biden to reverse
Trump’s possible recognition of Israel territory and
to cut political and economic support for Israel to punish it
for its diplomatic successes under the Trump administration.Recently, [Philip] Gordon urged Israel to stop seeking victory
against Hamas and accept a hostage deal that would allow the
Islamic terrorist group to hang on in Gaza and free thousands of terrorists.In his book, [Philip] Gordon claimed that
“though Hamas refuses to recognize Israel today,
it is not hard to imagine an eventual change in that position.”
And in 2014, he argued that a reconciliation deal
between the PLO and Hamas “isn’t necessarily a bad thing.”In 2016, Gordon, speaking on behalf of the Clinton campaign,
appeared at a conference of the National Iranian American Council (NIAC),
widely regarded as the Iran lobby, and promised that
Hillary Clinton would veto new sanctions on Iran.
He was described as assuring the Iran lobby of the
“potential for collaboration with Iran.”
The New York Times even appeared to
list him as a “tour guide” on its Iran trips.And [Philip] Gordon is not the only terror booster on Kamala’s team.
Ilan Goldenberg, a key member of the Kerry team
who played vital roles in the Obama administration’s
campaigns against Israel and for Iran, serves as
her Middle East adviser, and would have
a more prominent role in any administration.[Ilan] Goldenberg complained that the Trump administration
had taken Israel’s side during the Hamas border riots
that served as a prep for Oct. 7, objected that moving
the embassy to Jerusalem had not been packaged
with similar concessions to the terrorists and co-authored
a paper with Hady Amr, who acts as Biden’s point man to the terrorists.The paper proposed that “the United States, UNSCO,
and Egypt should work quietly in concert, engaging with Israel,
the PA, Hamas” to secure a “long-term ceasefire”
between Israel and Hamas, with Israel accepting that
“Hamas would retain some of its military capabilities.”At one session Goldenberg urged, “You used to have 25,000,
100,000 Gazans working inside Israel. That needs to happen again.
The Israelis know who these guys are.
They can start with a few thousand work permits.
And there’s a lot of support for that
in all of the Israeli communities around Gaza.”Prior to Oct. 7 [2023], Gazans flooded Israel, scouted those
“Israeli communities around Gaza” and when Oct. 7 began,
came back with maps of the communities so that they knew
where the security teams were, which houses
had dogs and where the children could be found.[Philip] Gordon and [Ilan] Goldenberg, who are set to play major
roles in a Harris administration, have expressed no regrets
or retractions of their past policies and positions.
Even as the Middle East burns due to Iranian terrorism,
all they have done is double down.In a co-written op-ed headlined, “Relax, Israel — if your ally
is working with your enemy, it doesn’t make them friends.”
Goldenberg envisioned that “In the aftermath of a successful nuclear deal,
U.S. relations with Iran should shift from that of an adversary to that of a competitor.”His position on Israel was rather different, with op-eds like
“Why Israel’s Settlement Construction Must Be Stopped”
and “How Israel Brought U.N. Resolution
on Itself With Irrational Settlement Push”.Under a Secretary of State Phil Gordon, the Abraham Accords
and normalization with countries like Saudi Arabia, which
one of his op-eds described as an “Arabian fantasy,”
would be swept aside in a return of Obama’s non-stop
pressure campaign on Israel to create a terrorist state.“How will it have peace if it is unwilling to delineate a border,
end the occupation, and allow for Palestinian sovereignty, security, and dignity?”
Gordon had said at a conference in Israel right after terror rockets began to fall.
“It cannot maintain military control of another people indefinitely.
Doing so is not only wrong but a recipe for resentment and recurring instability.”After the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens by Hamas,
Gordon equated Israel and the terrorists, claimed that
both sides suffered from “racism,” told “both sides to
demonstrate reason and calm” and warned that
“calls for retribution and revenge have no place on either side.”
Finally he falsely contended that “neither side” was
“ready to make the difficult decisions required for an agreement.”Goldenberg had similarly argued that “half the root causes
are Israeli actions, in terms of—especially just focusing on Gaza,
on the blockade. And the other half is Hamas’s choice
to use violence and arm itself in response.”That false paradigm has been markedly present
in Kamala’s attacks on Israel after Oct 7 [2023].Kamala’s relentless criticism of Israel’s self-defense is a preview of things to come.
Behind her escalating rhetoric are a group of anti-Israel figures
from the Obama administration. Goldenberg was one of the radicals
brought in by the Warren campaign and then injected
into the Biden administration. Gordon is a longtime State Department
anti-Israel figure from a faction whose fingerprints
are all over the policies that empowered Iran and set the region on fire.What would Kamala’s foreign policy look like?
The presence of Gordon and Goldenberg as her close advisers
on the region shows that it would be the Obama administration on steroids.SOURCE: article titled: “Kamala’s anti-Israel
advisers helped bring on Oct. 7”
by Daniel Greenfield 2024 July 29 www (dot) JNS (dot) orgOctober 6, 2024 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #2321805fandango443ParticipantThe current administration lies to give Israel permission to do whatever they need in Gaza, Lebanon and Syria.
Republicans are allied with Russia, Assad, and the IRI.
The entire pro-israel online activist space is captured by GOP propaganda.
You may prefer Trump on domestic issues but when it comes to material support for Israel, Kamala Harris is by far the superior choice.
Trump will do favors for Israel’s enemies but Democrats have true solidarity.October 6, 2024 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #2321836SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThis short article is from www (dot) matzav (dot) com:
Elon Musk attacked Kamala Harris as an “extinctionist” in a particularly sharp X post.
The billionaire was commenting on another post penned by
Donald Trump’s running mate, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH),
in which he attacked Kamala Harris for saying that
the threat of climate change has played a part in many people’s
decisions to have kids — among a number of other major life decisions.“It’s almost like these people don’t want young people
starting families or something. Really weird stuff,” Vance wrote.[Elon] Musk took Vance’s criticism to another level, arguing that
[Kamala] Harris’ acknowledgement of so-called “climate anxiety”
among young people meant she was advocating
for the “de facto holocaust for all of humanity.”SOURCE: article titled: “Elon Musk Calls Kamala Harris an ‘Extinctionist’ in X Post”
2024 July 29 www (dot) matzav (dot) comOctober 7, 2024 10:53 am at 10:53 am #2321890crazykanoiyParticipantTariffs help certain jobs like manufacturing but harm others such as imports. Ultimately they trigger trade wars and harm the economy overall. Most yidden do not work on assembly plants in Michigan or build machinery in Wisconsin but most large frum families by large quantities of imported items. Many more frum yidden work in import related businesses. Clothes bought from Alli and Shein are common place. Trump blatantly lies that his tariffs are a tax on foreign countries. They are not .Trump’s tariffs are a huge tax on everyday Americans and the larger your family the more it will cost you..Paying more to save inefficient industries is not good for busses. The GOP of old subscribed to the economic principles of Adam.Smith. The GOP of old brought much economic prosperity to the US..The new MAGA populism is dangerous on many levels.
October 7, 2024 10:53 am at 10:53 am #2321922Neville Chaimberlin Lo MesParticipantJeesh, why is he still going. Does he really think anyone is reading all of these?
October 7, 2024 10:53 am at 10:53 am #2321941rightwriterParticipant@squareroot-Didnt Pharaoh’s daughter Batya also covert to Judaism/Hebrew? Did that stop him from hating the Jews?
October 7, 2024 10:53 am at 10:53 am #2321948SQUARE_ROOTParticipantOctober 7, 2024 11:35 am at 11:35 am #2322169pekakParticipantAll of the imported stuff used to be manafactured locally and people had jobs. All the people who make their living from the imported goods industry can manufacture domestically.
October 7, 2024 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #2322266crazykanoiyParticipantNo they can’t. And what they could would cost significantly more. Read Adam Smith.
October 7, 2024 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #2322268crazykanoiyParticipantTrump’s economic plan would add twice as much to the deficit as the plan proposed by Harris according to new analysis reported in the WSJ
October 8, 2024 5:44 am at 5:44 am #2322377SQUARE_ROOTParticipantThis article was written by Dr. Joseph Frager MD:
President Joe Biden is missed already. As bad as he was,
Vice President Kamala Harris is a hundred times worse.One of her first official acts as nominee for president
was to make sure not to attend Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech to Congress,
even though she is the President of the Senate
and it is more than just customary for her to do so.House Speaker Mike Johnson said,
“It is outrageous to me and inexcusable that …
Kamala Harris is boycotting Prime Minister Netanyahu’s speech.”Would Harris have declined to attend Winston Churchill’s
speech to Congress on December 26, 1941?Israel is America’s only real and reliable ally in the Middle East.
It was brutally and savagely attacked on October 7 [2023].It has been and continues to be bombarded by missiles from Hezbollah.
Twelve children were just killed in their latest bombing.
Iran attacked Israel with hundreds of missiles,
drones and UAVs on April 13 [2024].Israelis are deeply concerned that their very existence is at stake.
Britain felt the same way during World War II.
As Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in his address,
Biden visited Israel soon after Oct. 7 to lend support because
he was aware of the gravity of the situation. It was a war against evil.Winston Churchill devoted most of his speech to Congress
to ultimate victory over the Axis powers.
He quipped about his American-born mother,
“I cannot help reflecting that if my father had been American
and my mother British, instead of the other way round,
I might have got here on my own.
In that case, this would not have been
the first time you would have heard my voice.”He went on to say, “We both of us have much to learn
in the cruel art of war. We have therefore,
without doubt, a time of tribulation before us.”Churchill was warmly received on both sides of the aisle.
He understood war and its consequences.
No one tiptoed around the evil that the Axis powers
had unleashed. No one, including the “isolationists”
who opposed U.S. involvement in the war, boycotted the event.Ironically, Netanyahu has addressed Congress four times
while Churchill did so only three times. Although Harris
might think that the situations are different, this is not an excuse.
Israel is facing a multi-front war and is preventing
that war from spreading to U.S. shores.[Kamala] Harris has already encouraged campus protests
against Israel by stating that: “They are showing exactly
what the human emotion should be, as a response to Gaza.”Her quick call for a ceasefire as early as March
only hardened the hearts of Hamas, prolonging the war.[Kamala] Harris’s moral equivalence on the conflict
will only make a hostage deal even more difficult.As one Israeli official said after Netanyahu and [Kamala] Harris met,
“When our enemies see the U.S. and Israel are aligned
it increases the chances for a hostage deal and decreases
the chances for a regional escalation. When there is such daylight
it pushes the deal further away and brings a regional escalation closer.”Thus, Harris has only made the situation worse.
SOURCE: article titled: “Kamala Harris is no Joe Biden”
by Dr. Joseph Frager MD, 2024 July 28 www (dot) JNS (dot) orgOctober 8, 2024 5:45 am at 5:45 am #2322385Neville Chaimberlin Lo MesParticipant“No they can’t. And what they could would cost significantly more. Read Adam Smith.”
OK, but he would not have been assuming that a country would handicap itself with far stricter regulations than other countries, then act bewildered when suppliers take their production elsewhere.
The way I see it, the breakdown of what people should hold is like this:
People who are okay with no minimum wage, some child-labor: deregulate The US so we can be competitive.
People who are okay with the above only when it takes place in China: come to terms with our jobs being outsourced forever.
People who are not okay with it anywhere: support high tariffs or even embargoes on countries that don’t agree with our labor laws.If people were intellectually honest, I think almost everyone would fit into one of those three groups, but usually it isn’t so simple. I haven’t usually heard Trumpists railing against China’s labor practices. Their case for tariffs seems to be quasi-tribalistic and emotionalist most of the time.
October 8, 2024 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #2322709SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRobert Spencer of Frontpage Magazine said:
The media isn’t going to tell you this. The Hamas-linked Council
on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) describes itself as
“America’s largest Muslim civil liberties organization.”In that guise, and as it has championed numerous far-left causes,
it has become a respected member of the leftist establishment,
with numerous ignorant and self-serving politicians lavishing
praise on this unsavory gang in hopes of gaining Muslim votes.Among them has been, not surprisingly, Kamala Harris.
This has been known for years, but no one has cared.
Back in October 2020, the Washington Free Beacon reported that
“as California’s attorney general and then as U.S. senator,
[Kamala] Harris forged a relationship with the Council on American-Islamic
Relations (CAIR), one of the nation’s top anti-Israel groups
and advocates for boycotts of the Jewish state.”After the Hamas massacres of October 7, 2023, this matters more than ever.
CAIR, the Free Beacon added, “advised [Kamala] Harris on
community issues during her time in California politics,
and she later offered the group her ‘gratitude and admiration’
in a 2018 personal letter to the group.”
Specifically, “Hussam Ayloush, executive director of CAIR’s
Los Angeles office, praised Harris in 2015 for including
the group in an interfaith meeting with law enforcement officials.[Kamala] Harris, he said, ‘exemplified leadership’ by
vowing to tackle Islamophobia at a time when
the state’s Jewish institutions were facing threats.”That was bad enough, since “Islamophobia” is a propaganda
weapon designed to intimidate people that it is wrong —
somehow “bigoted” — to oppose jihad violence
and Sharia oppression of women.Even worse, long before he praised Kamala Harris,
Hussam Ayloush has repeatedly refused to denounce
Hamas and Hizballah [Hezbollah] as terrorist groups.In 2017, with Donald Trump in the White House,
Ayloush called for the overthrow of the U.S. government.Yet the following year, [Kamala] Harris wrote to CAIR:
“Please accept my gratitude and admiration
for your tireless work to promote peace,
justice, and mutual understanding.”Even that was not all. “As California’s top cop,” the Free Beacon noted,
“Harris partnered with local CAIR officials and relied on them
to advise her about community matters. In 2015, for instance,
[Kamala] Harris hosted CAIR for an interfaith community event
following a deadly terrorist attack in San Bernardino.
In 2016, as Harris ran for the Senate, CAIR’s
political action committee donated $1,750 to boost her campaign.”That may not be much in the larger scheme of things,
but imagine the outcry if Donald Trump had taken a small fraction
of that amount from a group linked to the Ku Klux Klan.Harris’ ties to CAIR take on a new urgency now that she is
a presidential candidate, and now that this self-proclaimed
“civil rights organization” is more forthright
than it used to be about where it really stands:CAIR’s cofounder and longtime executive director Nihad Awad
infamously said that he was “happy” about Hamas’
October 7 [2023] jihad massacre of 1,200 Israelis.In April 2024, Awad eulogized a Muslim Brotherhood cleric,
Sheikh Abdul-Majid al-Zindani, who had ties to al-Qaeda as well as Hamas:“The Islamic nation has lost one of its biggest emblems and men
with the passing of Sheikh Alam and worker Abdul Majeed Al-Zindani
after he dedicated his life to the service of the Quran
and the manifestation of its miracles that never cease.
He remained tall and firm in the face of challenges, tribulations,
pressure, and rankings until he met the Almighty Allah.
Our condolences to his family, Yemen, and our nation.
We ask Allah, the Merciful, the Merciful and the Forgiving,
to have mercy on him, forgive him and reward him with the best of rewards.”Al-Zindani was on the UN Security Council’s list of specially designated terrorists.
If Trump had similar ties to any of the groups that the leftist establishment
claims are made up of “right-wing extremists,” including a group that
opposes CAIR and jihad terror and got added to the Southern Poverty Law Center’s
“hate group” list for doing so, the media outcry would be shrill and intense.Trump would be hounded everywhere
until he disavowed the group and returned its donation.No one, however, is asking Harris about CAIR.
That’s because Harris, CAIR, and the media are all part of the same leftist establishment.Surely you don’t expect them to police themselves, do you?
Politicians can associate freely with groups that are on
the left’s approved list, and be secure in
the knowledge that there will be no accountability.Responsibility to the American people?
Come on, man! This ain’t 1776 anymore!SOURCE: article titled: “Kamala’s ties to a far-left,
Hamas-linked Islamic group” by Robert Spencer
of Frontpage Magazine, 2024 August 1,
found in: The Jewish Voice, www (dot) TJVnews (dot) comOctober 8, 2024 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #2322712SQUARE_ROOTParticipantRabbi Pinchos Lipschutz of matzav (dot) com said:
“The media is in full throttle for Kamala Harris,
and the fact that she is an extreme liberal with
near-socialist leanings has been buried as the
propaganda campaign for her election bears fruit.Americans are confused and apparently easily influenced
to support a candidate who is NOT in their best interest.It is often stated at election time that the future of the
country is at stake, and this time it seems truer than ever.”SOURCE: article titled: “When Will It End?”
by Rabbi Pinchos Lipschutz 2024 August 8 matzav (dot) comOctober 9, 2024 11:58 am at 11:58 am #2323153modernParticipant“Donald Trump has a Jewish daughter”
And a Lebanese son in law whose father is a childhood friend of Hezbollah’s candidate for President of Lebanon. As the OP stated, Trump is making a big play for the Arab vote in Michigan.
October 9, 2024 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #2323182modernParticipant“extreme liberal with near-socialist leanings”
Anyone who understands San Francisco politics knows that that is a total lie. Harris was hated by the actual extreme liberals for putting criminals in prison — and for having good relationships with AIPAC activists. Donald Trump is one such criminal who deserves free room and board.
And neo-socialism isn’t a thing.
There is a big danger here from our own extremists. What reason is there for any politician to support Israel when we engage in slanderous lies about them anyway. Harris has never been anti Israel and in San Francisco that is a political liability. Ditto Nancy Pelosi. We need to support our friends not demonize them.
October 10, 2024 10:15 am at 10:15 am #2323303SQUARE_ROOTParticipantMichael Goodwin of The New York Post said:
The grumbling that Kamala Harris is avoiding reporters like the plague
led to a headline on Fox News that demanded:
“Liberal media minions need to do their jobs.”Ah, but they ARE doing their jobs. Their assignment, as they see it,
is to stop Donald Trump from becoming president, and no effort is being spared.If they had another goal, they would be furious as [Kamala] Harris
ignores them and their questions. But meekly accepting
her cold shoulder is all part of a dishonest day’s work.They will do whatever it takes to elect her.
All of which means Trump shouldn’t hold his breath waiting
for [Kamala] Harris to be exposed during a tough round of interviews.He may be right, as he said Thursday, that “she can’t do a news conference.”
He said that during a long question-and-answer session he held to draw a contrast with her.But he, too, misses the larger point: [Kamala] Harris could do an endless loop
of interviews and press conferences and it probably wouldn’t matter.She will choose friendly outlets where Democrats with
press passes will throw her big juicy softballs [easy questions].
If she swings wildly and misses, they will declare it a home run [a great success].If she dishes up one of her zany word salads, she will
be deemed a genius beyond the comprehension of ordinary mortals.
And her annoying cackle will be proclaimed endearing.FIXED ON THE PRIZE:
America is experiencing a remarkable series of events,
featuring the shooting of the Republican candidate
by a would-be assassin and the pressured removal
of the Democratic president from his re-election campaign,
yet the media hasn’t blinked.They remain fixed on the prize of making certain
Trump doesn’t get back to the Oval Office.The mission includes turning away from the attempt to assassinate him.
You don’t have to be a historian to marvel at how little interest there is
about the background and motivation of the 20-year-old shooter, Thomas Crooks.Nor is there much detail about an Iranian plot to assassinate Trump
that, we recently learned, had been broken up by the FBI
just the day before the Pennsylvania shooting.Crooks reportedly had three foreign email accounts
but we are assured by anonymous “official” sources
speaking to leftist outlets there is no connection between the two plots.PBS, a reliable indicator of the radical mindset, put it this way:
“US officials acknowledged last month that a threat on
Donald Trump’s life from Iran prompted additional security
in the days before a Pennsylvania rally in which
Trump was injured by a gunman’s bullet.
That July 13 shooting, carried out by a 20-year-old Pennsylvania man,
was unrelated to the Iran threat . . . a law enforcement official said.”So there was “additional security” in Pennsylvania,
but still Crooks was able to fire at Trump
from an open rooftop just 130 yards away?This, of course, is the same Secret Service that dropped
its probe into a bag of cocaine found at the Biden White House
because it couldn’t find the perp in two weeks.
The Keystone Kops were more diligent.If the assassination plots involved [President Joe] Biden or any Democrat,
the media would treat them as earth-shattering stories.Every rumor, speculation and tidbit of information would be
blasted out in breathtaking fashion about a national security crisis.UNFAIR PLAY:
Republicans would be lashed with harsh denunciations
about overheated political rhetoric and accused of sparking violence.But when Democrats and the media repeatedly declare Trump
a threat to democracy and then he narrowly avoids death,
and when a foreign power also assigns an agent to kill him,
the page is quickly turned.There is no outrage toward Iran, nor does the media express
any curiosity about why Iran wants to kill Trump but not Biden.The reason is obvious, but to spell it out
would be to expose Biden’s appeasement policies.
Recall that Trump droned Iran’s terror chief and put tough sanctions
on the mullahs’ oil, while Biden lifted the sanctions and keeps trying
to bribe Iran to rejoin the failed nuclear pact that Trump scuttled.Even after Iran loosed its terror proxies on Israel and the groups
killed three American service members in Jordan,
wounded others in Iraq and took Americans hostage in Israel,
Biden pulls his punches and demands Israel do the same.Then came Friday’s reports that Iran is using fake news sites
and other online activity to interfere in the fall election.Not until the third paragraph does the AP note that
“US officials have previously hinted that Iran
particularly opposes former President Donald Trump.”A more honest way to write the same story would be
to say upfront that Iran wants to help elect [Kamala] Harris.
That’s how it would be written, if Iran was trying to help elect Trump.Here’s another comparison: If JD Vance were accused of
“stolen valor” by his former military comrades, would
the media circle the wagons around him the way
they are protecting Tim Walz against the same charges?
The question answers itself.Sadly, even tragically, there is nothing new in the media jihad
against Trump. It started in 2016 and hasn’t stopped.The big outlets tried to drag Hillary Clinton over the finish line,
but couldn’t do it. So many newsrooms, so many tears.In 2020, they were happy to let Biden hide in his basement.
They knew then he was in decline, but believed it better
to have a decrepit Democrat in the White House than the evil Trump.During his tenure, Biden set a modern record for the fewest
press conferences and interviews. It should have been treated as a scandal,
but even as Biden ignored them, reporters ignored his cognitive decline.DIFFERENT STANDARDS:
When the president scolded the press for mild criticism,
they remained loyal to his re-election.He said publicly his son Hunter Biden did nothing wrong,
and they didn’t bother to note that it was improper for a president
to comment on a case pending before his Justice Department.He let it be known he wanted Trump prosecuted and thrown in jail,
which should have been met with thunderous outrage, but instead, crickets.Actually, it wasn’t crickets. There was a very loud applause
because that’s what the media wants, too.They stuck with Biden until it was clear he would lose,
then flipped on a dime and led the charge to replace him.They didn’t know who Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and
the megadonors would replace him with — and didn’t care.Any Democrat who increased the odds of beating Trump would do.
To judge from reports about Harris’ “joyful” campaign,
many in the media are giddy that she is generating
so much enthusiasm and, according to polls, is now beating Trump.That makes it extra delusional for anyone, including him,
to believe the press will jeopardize her chances
by holding the two candidates to the same standards.If Trump is going to win, he’ll have to do it the way he did it in 2016:
despite the media.SOURCE: article titled: “The liberal media will do anything
to get Kamala Harris elected – which includes not questioning her”
by Michael Goodwin 2024 August 10 www (dot) NYPost (dot) comOctober 10, 2024 10:15 am at 10:15 am #2323304SQUARE_ROOTParticipantmatzav (dot) com recently said this:
Senator Tom Cotton strongly criticized Vice President Kamala Harris on Sunday,
labeling her as both “naive” about Tehran and lenient toward Hamas.The Republican senator from Arkansas, speaking on “Fox News Sunday,”
condemned the Democrat presidential candidate’s stance on Israel
following the October 7 [2023] attack by Hamas, which resulted
in the deaths of approximately 1,200 Israelis and the abduction
of around 250 others to Gaza. Cotton argued that Harris’s actions
reveal her lack of readiness to lead the nation as commander in chief.[Senator Tom] Cotton, who is a member of the Senate Intelligence,
Armed Services, and Judiciary Committees, accused Harris of
blindly accepting Hamas’ reports regarding the number of casualties in Gaza,
despite these figures being provided by the Hamas-controlled Health Ministry,
which does not differentiate between fighters and civilians.He stated that “Israel has to strike on occasion at places like hospitals and schools,
because Hamas uses them for command and control or to fire mortars and rockets.
There are civilian casualties in Gaza, no doubt,
but those are solely the responsibility of Hamas, not Israel.”Despite acknowledging the complexity of the situation, [Senator Tom] Cotton
criticized Harris and President Joe Biden for exerting more pressure on Israel
than on Hamas from the onset of the conflict.He also reproached [Kamala] Harris for not fulfilling her constitutional role
as president of the Senate by avoiding Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s
recent address to Congress, which was attended by 128 Democrat members of Congress.“She refused to preside over the joint session, her only constitutional duty
as president of the Senate, she refused to have a meeting in public with
[Netanyahu, although she did meet with him in private],
and she came out and again blamed Israel for the civilian casualties in Gaza,
only emboldening Iran and Iranian-backed terrorists,”[Senator Tom] Cotton remarked. “And what did you have two days later?
Hezbollah, another Iranian-backed terrorist [organization]
shot rockets to Israel and blew up children playing ball at a playground.”Reiterating his criticism, Cotton declared that
“Kamala Harris is naive, and she’s not prepared to be the commander in chief.”While acknowledging that [Kamala] Harris had affirmed Israel’s
right to defend itself, Cotton argued that she undermined
this position by immediately adding conditions. “And what comes after the ‘but’ with Kamala Harris is always implying
that Israel is responsible for all the civilian suffering in Gaza,
not Hamas, that Israel is the one being provocative when
it’s waging a defensive war after the October 7 [2023] atrocity
and that Israel is the one that should pull in its horns,
as opposed to supporting Israel and standing strong against Iran
and Iranian-backed terrorist throughout the region,” Cotton concluded.SOURCE: article titled: “Senator Cotton: Harris ‘Naive’ on Iran,
Not Tough on Hamas” 2024 August 12, www (dot) matzav (dot) comOctober 10, 2024 10:16 am at 10:16 am #2323345Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantmodern, note that all D- Presidents and VPs are “pro-Israel”, while being in a fight with duly elected Israeli PM – and his policies. I don’t think we have such relationship often with allies, such as European countries. They are basically saying – we are your friends when you do what we tell you to. This is, of course, better than outright hostility. Still, no wonder that every time they say – yes, Israel has a right to defend itself BUT … this encourages antisemites in their activities. As just reported, Trump simply called Bibi and said – congrats on your battle successes. There is a lot of value of having clarity that someone is on your side in the battle.
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