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  • #613248
    zahavasdad
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    One of them hasnt been read in 11 years and wont be read for another 9

    One of them was just read

    #1024355
    ☕️coffee addict
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    the one that was just read is parshas pinchas bc usually it falls out during the three weeks so mattos is read, not sure of the other 2

    #1024356
    TheGoq
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    The ones where the kiddush club doesnt leave before or during.

    #1024357
    blockhead
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    The most rare is hatishpot.

    #1024358
    JayMatt19
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    1. Pinchas (Normally when Mattos and Ma’asei are together, Haftaras Ma’atos is read during Parshas Pinchas)

    2. Miketz (Normally Miketz is pushed aside cause it is Shabbos Chanukah, but if the first day of Chanukah falls out on a Friday, Miketz is Motzei Chanukah, and its Haftara is read)

    3. Hmm, I think it is either Tazriah or Kedoshim.

    I’m not sure if there even is a Haftara for Tazria. In a regular year it is combined with Metzorah, and Haftaras Metzorah is read. In a leap year, Tazriah is Parshas Hachodesh.

    Kedoshim, when combined with Achrei Mos, Haftaras Achrei Mos is read. When seperate, if Haftaras Achrei Mos isn’t said (Shabbos HaGadol), there are opinions which state that Parshas Kedoshim still gets Haftaras Achrei Mos.

    #1024359
    YentylW
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    miketz should be at the top of the list – almost always replaced by chanukkah.

    #1024360
    JayMatt19
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    Actually, Miketz isn’t the rarest. I read somewhere that we read it an average of once every ten years. It has nothing to do with leap year.

    I believe Kedoshim/Tazria are rarer. I’m not even sure if we ever read Haftaras Tazria.

    FYI there is no such thing as Haftaras Va’yelech. If combined we do Netzavim, if separate, then it is Shabbos Shuva and we read Shuva.

    #1024361
    ubiquitin
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    The rarest are: kedoshim, pinchas, and mikeitz. The exact frequency depends how you calculate are about 10% (less if you calculate based on how often they occur on tge tur’s 247 year cycle, however as meforshim point out this cycle isnt perfect.)

    Tazria us closer to 16%. Vayakhel is rare as well, however this haftora is also for second shabbos chanuka so it is not quite as infrequent as would be.

    #1024362
    JayMatt19
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    When do we EVER read Tazria?

    In a non-leap year it is combined with Metzora.

    In a leap year it is HaChodesh (Shmini is ALWAYS Parah in a leap year)

    Have a look at http://www.hebcal.com/sedrot/tazria

    Between 2012 and 2024 Haftaras Tazria ISN’T READ ONCE!!

    #1024363
    ubiquitin
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    Calculated over 600,000 years. The rarest is miketz read 10.1% (when rosh hashana is shabnos and year is chaser.)

    Pinchas is 10.6% (a leap year when rosh hashana ws Thursday)

    Kedoshim is read 11.1 % of time

    Tazria is slightly more at 16% (read in leap year when rosh hashana was shabbos or monday and year is chaser)

    #1024364
    JayMatt19
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    “Pinchas is 10.6% (a leap year when rosh hashana ws Thursday)

    Kedoshim is read 11.1 % of time”

    That is MAY be the figures for chu”l

    But is isn’t for EY.

    #1024365
    JayMatt19
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    Pinchos is read in a leap year when Pesach falls on Motzei Shabbos or Tuesday (like this past year).

    #1024366
    ubiquitin
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    Jay, not quite.

    For example Year zayin-ches-gimmel (last occurred 5757, will next occur 5784)is a leap year during which Pesach is tuesday and yet Pinchos is the first of the three weeks (as it usually is )and those the Haftorah for Pinchas is not read.

    Pinchas is read before the three weeks when Shabbos hagadol is Metzorah (as opposed to Acherei)This occurs in leap years Years when R”H is Thursday.

    You are right about Chu”l which is where I live so that is what I focussed on. In E”Y it is more common since in years when Acharon Shel PEsach is Shabbos They read Pinchas before the Three weeks

    #1024367
    YentylW
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    miketz next appears after chanukkah, 5781 (when chanukkah first light occurs on a Thursday night). and again in 5784, and not again until 5801. leap year has nothing to do with it. in 5784 and 5801, theya re both leap years, but not 5781. go figure.

    #1024368
    skreit
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    I just spoke with someone about Mikeitz a few months back. If Rosh Hashana falls on Shabbos and both Cheshvan and Kislev are 29 day months, Chanukah will fall out on Friday. The 2nd day of Chanukah (Shabbos Chanukah) will be Parshas Vayeishev. The next Shabbos, which is no longer Chanukah, will be Mikeitz. Nothing to do with a leap year.

    #1024369
    JayMatt19
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    If there are two Shabbos Chanukahs, the 2nd will be miketz.

    Move it up a day (meaning if Chanukah starts on Fri). It is Motzei Chanukah which is Miketz.

    Nothing to do with a leap year.

    Think about it this way, Beraishis will always be the week after Simchas Torah.

    Leap year will only start affecting the parshios after Mishpatim.

    #1024370
    nishtdayngesheft
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    Not sure I would call any halacha trivial

    #1024371
    YW Moderator-42
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    Whenever there is a double parsha, we generally read the haftorah of the 2nd one, but when achrei-kedoshim are together we read the haftorah for Acharei because we try to avoid reading the haftorah of Hatishpot whenever possible because it mentions the “Toavas Yerushalayim” (see Megilla 25b).

    When Achrei and Kedoshim are separate, if one of them is a special haftorah such as Hagadol or Rosh Chodesh, we read the haftorah for Acharei on the other one.

    The only time we would ever read Hatishpot is when the parshios are separate and neither has any special haftorah. Even then, there are some who have the minhag never to read who will just read the haftorah of Achrei twice in those years.

    Which leads to another trivia question, other than reading the haftorah for Achrei twice in a row as mentioned above, when else do we read the same haftorah 2 weeks in a row?

    #1024372
    chofetzchaim
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    In Eretz Yisrael when Purim falls on Shabbos we read the same haftorah for Parshas Zachor and Purim

    #1024373
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    When Rosh Chodesh falls out two weeks in a row.

    #1024374
    YW Moderator-42
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    How often does that happen? Once in a Super Blue Moon?

    #1024375

    About as often as reading Parshas Matos on an airplane, 42.

    #1024376
    greenBubble
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    when purim is on friday, those who observe shushan purim (on shabbos) will read the same haftora as the shabbos before, parshas zachor.

    #1024377
    yachad
    Member

    “Calculated over 600,000 years. The rarest is miketz read 10.1% (when rosh hashana is shabnos and year is chaser.)

    Pinchas is 10.6% (a leap year when rosh hashana ws Thursday)

    Kedoshim is read 11.1 % of time

    Tazria is slightly more at 16% (read in leap year when rosh hashana was shabbos or monday and year is chaser)”

    This math has to be mistaken. Kedoshim can be read in one and only one type of year – A leap year with Rosh Hashana on Shabbos that is chaseir. Any other year, either acharei mos or kedoshim is either shabbos hagadol, rosh chodesh, or machar chodesh.

    As many people have already said, Miketz is read on two types of years. When Shabbos is Rosh Hashana and the year is chaseir, regardless of whether it is a leap year or not, chanuka will start on Friday and Miketz will be the day after Chanuka.

    If you were paying attention, you would have noticed that the only year we leign kedoshim is one of the two years we leign miketz. that means WHENEVER we leign Kedoshim, we leign Miketz, but we sometimes leign Mikeitz without Kedoshim. ubiquitin’s math comes out that Miketz is less common.

    #1024378
    ubiquitin
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    yachad Thanks! I made a mistake.

    Kedoshim is in fact read only in the year you identified zayin-ches-gimmel which occurs 5.8%

    Thank you

    #1024379
    rwndk1
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    You forgot one, I do not have the stats but Tzav is extremely rare. On non-leap years it is always Shabbos Hagadol, on leap years it is often zachor or Parah (in Yerushalayim it can be Shushan Purim in which case it is not read there but is everywhere elese). I would not be surprised if it is one of the rarest – far more rare than Pinchas.

    #1024380
    ubiquitin
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    rwndk1 You are right Tzav is rare however it is not one of the 3 rarest (it is fourth).

    It is read in a leap year when Pesach is shabbos or Sunday occurs about 13.9%. (In Yerushalyim it might be rarer)

    Pinchas is less common (interestingly one year heh-ches-aleph has both at 3.9% this is one of the rarest calendar possibilities.

    #1024381
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    How about Mishpatim, Tetzavheh and Ki Sisa? Those are often replaced by daled parshios.

    #1024382
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    While we’re at it, what are the most common haftorahs?

    I assume Dirshu Hashem is the most common. Then there is Hashamayim Kis’i and Machar Chodesh which happen a few times per year. Then there would be Roni V’simchi and Roni Akara / Aniya So’ara which are lained twice a year when Noach is not R”Ch. The paragraph of Shuva is lained twice. So is Mi Kel Kamocha for those who lain it as part of Shuva and Yonah.

    The paragraph of Al yishalel chacham is lained on Tisha B’Av as well as Tzav when it is not a special haftorah. And Haazinu has the same haftorah as 7th day of Pesach though Haazinu can be Shuva.

    Did I miss any?

    #1024383
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    There are also those who have the strange minhag of reading the haftorah of the 8th day of Pesach again on a random weekday a few weeks later.

    #1024384
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    42 Ive calculated those too:

    dirshu is recited 500% of the time (i.e exactly 5 times every eyar)

    Rani vesimchi chanukah Behaloscha every year = 200%

    Rani akarah 100% during 7 d’nechemta + noach (68%)= 168%

    Hashamayim Kisi can be said, 3, 2, 1 or never during ayear averaging to 162.7 %

    Ditto for Macher chadosh though it is less than Hashamyim Kisi at 110.3% 9I have to double check this one since i had a mistake in Kedoshim as rwndk1 pointed out above.

    The seventh day Pesach (100%) is same as Haazeinu (if not shabbas shuvah (39.5%) for a total of 139.5%

    Interestingly Vayakehl is also the haftorah for second shabbos Chanukah but both of these are uncommon (10.6% during shabbos Vayakehl + 18.4% for second Shabbos chanukah = 30%)

    [I only included repeated haftorahs not pesukim, i left out those who say a posuk of Machar chodesh if entire haftorah isnt said)

    As for the Parshas you listed:

    Tetzaveh isnt that rare as it is read every leap year, and in one non leap year 41.2%

    Ki sisa read every leap eyar and TWO non-leap years 58.2%

    Mishpatim is rarer since can also be Rosh chodesh Adar 1 or machar chodesh adar 1 so while in leap eyar it isnt a daled parsha it is still only said 23.9%. Uncommon but not quite among the Most uncommon.

    #1024385
    JayMatt19
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    What about haftorahs which appear in other haftorahs in part?

    Isn’t Haftaras V’yetzei part of Haftaras Shabbos Shuva?

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