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February 18, 2016 5:26 am at 5:26 am #617249JaybirdMemberFebruary 18, 2016 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #1139388The QueenParticipant
I hope someone can give you advice on this.
My sister had gall stones and the doctor said the only thing to do is surgery. Then she heard of a woman in Williamsburg who can help, who advised her to eat only green apples for a day and drink only apple cider. Before bed she was to drink a concoction of olive oil and fresh squeezed lemon juice. (don’t know exact recipe.) Also, she was supposed to get a good nights sleep and wake up naturally in the morning. (no alarm clock or crying baby)
The next morning the gall stones cleared her body.
No more gallstones. No more pain. She didn’t even go back to the doctor!
True story. Happened last week.
There probably is another way. I hope you find it.
February 18, 2016 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #1139389JosephParticipantQueen: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/help-have-gallstones-can-i-avoid-gallbladder-removal
(Also for DY to note, if he wants to link to a post where I allegedly confirmed my gender.)
February 18, 2016 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #1139390HealthParticipantJaybird -“Just wondering if anyone has success treating swollen adenoids or tonsils with anything else but surgery?”
Oh Jay – Did you try antibiotics? If yes, which one(s) & for how long? What was on the C & S?
February 18, 2016 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #1139391ExcellenceParticipantRabbi Menachem Mendel of Rimanov said learning aggada heals the body. Also, learning Torah aloud heals physical ailments.
Tricky if one can’t speak from a sore throat, perhaps, but try a few words here and there
February 18, 2016 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm #1139392pcozMemberGargling oleum.
February 19, 2016 2:47 am at 2:47 am #1139393JaybirdMember“Oh Jay – Did you try antibiotics? If yes, which one(s) & for how long? What was on the C & S?”
Of course. Your child’s pediatrician will usually prescribe the standard antibiotics for colds. The ENT will usually suggest Flonase, and/or Claritin.
These didn’t do anything.
February 19, 2016 2:50 am at 2:50 am #1139394JaybirdMemberIn re to commenter the queen.
Would you be so kind to share with me who this magical healers information?
Thanks!
February 19, 2016 5:15 am at 5:15 am #1139396147ParticipantIce cream Ice cream Ice cream & more Ice cream
February 19, 2016 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm #1139397NechomahParticipantJaybird, if your pediatrician is provided antibiotics for “colds” then you should quickly switch away from him to one who does not put you at risk for overuse of antibiotics, which are supposed to be used ONLY for a documented bacterial infection. Otherwise there is a increased risk of creating superbacteria that the antibiotics are not effective in fighting. The cold is a viral infection and does not need antibiotics.
Are the adenoids and tonsils swollen to the point that they are affecting the health? For example, is sleep being interfered with due to swollen adenoids causing snoring and interrupted breathing? Are the tonsils infected multiple times in a relatively short period, meaning that antibiotics are not effective? How long after the last infection are we talking? Sometimes the swelling does not go down right away. Are both adenoids and tonsils swollen or just one set?
I would try to push off surgery unless there is a real affect on health because surgery has its own risks, especially if they take both adenoids and tonsils at the same time, in my opinion. I had just my tonsils out due to repeated strep throat and tonsillitis infections to the point where I was on antibiotics more than I was off of them over a six month period. But after the surgery I developed allergies to many things that I was not allergic to prior to the surgery. I think the tonsils filter out certain things and do not let them get into the body to the point an autoimmune response is generated. When the tonsils are gone, there is nothing to act as this filter. This last part is my conjecture alone and not medical opinion, but I have found that other people I know did develop allergies only after having these “unnecessary” organs removed. Sometimes kids will outgrow this problem and the swelling will go down on its own over time, so definitely don’t rush.
February 19, 2016 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #1139399The QueenParticipant“Would you be so kind to share with me who this magical healers information?”
I tried the mods don’t let it through. Sorry.
February 22, 2016 3:56 am at 3:56 am #1139401JaybirdMemberNechomah,
Yes, the tonsils to adenoids and tonsils to disrupt his sleep. From what I understand it’s more the adenoids than tonsils disrupting his sleep since he can’t breath through his.
I do understand the swelling of the tonsils can go down over time but I’m not sure if I have heard of that relating to swollen adenoids.
Any additional advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
February 22, 2016 10:51 am at 10:51 am #1139402NechomahParticipantI’m sure you’ve gone to a competent ENT. How old is the child? I was older and having swelling of my turbinates in the nose. I was prescribed a short course of steroids and the swelling went down. I do not know if this is a prescribed treatment method for adenoids or if it will help. Side effects for small children can be a concern. Do the tonsils have to be removed as well as the adenoids? I know many remove them together, but is it absolutely necessary if the tonsils are not the source of the problem? No great advice, just some more questions to ask your doctor. Refuah sheleimah.
February 23, 2016 7:46 am at 7:46 am #1139403HealthParticipantOh Jay -“Of course. Your child’s pediatrician will usually prescribe the standard antibiotics for colds. The ENT will usually suggest Flonase,”
You didn’t answer my questions: “Oh Jay – Did you try antibiotics? If yes, which one(s) & for how long? What was on the C & S?”
Saying “standard antibiotics” doesn’t tell me anything! Did you even get a C & S?
I can give some info in regular and alternative medicine, but first answer the questions.
Flonase will decrease swelling, no matter what the cause is!
February 23, 2016 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #1139404NechomahParticipantHealth, do they run a wide-spectrum culture and sensitivity as standard procedure for “tonsillitis”? I would assume that they would do a throat culture and it would be run for streptococcus bacteria and, if positive, prescribe penicillin or amoxicillin. Are there other flora found on throat cultures?
February 23, 2016 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #1139405HealthParticipantNechomah -“Health, do they run a wide-spectrum culture and sensitivity as standard procedure for “tonsillitis”?”
No. For standard procedure – they do standard throat culture, usually on a BAP – looking for Strep!
“I would assume that they would do a throat culture and it would be run for streptococcus bacteria and, if positive, prescribe penicillin or amoxicillin.”
That’s correct!
“Are there other flora found on throat cultures?”
I’m changing your question a little.
What are the causes of Tonsillitis?
From Web MD:
“Causes and Symptoms of Tonsillitis
Bacterial and viral infections can cause tonsillitis. A common cause is Streptococcus (strep) bacteria. Other common causes include:
Adenoviruses
Influenza virus
Epstein-Barr virus (Mono)
Parainfluenza viruses
Enteroviruses
Herpes simplex virus”
Also, infection of the pharynx with Gram-negative coccal-shaped (round) bacteria named Neisseria gonorrhoeae (also termed pharyngeal gonorrhea).
February 28, 2016 2:18 am at 2:18 am #1139406JaybirdMemberIN re to health:
“Oh Jay – Did you try antibiotics? If yes, which one(s) & for how long? What was on the C & S?”
Saying “standard antibiotics” doesn’t tell me anything! Did you even get a C & S?
(JAY)I don’t know what C&S means. When my son was sick they prescribed the standard medications any pediatrician would give like amoxicillin, zythromax, etc… These medications are usually given for ten days. They got rid of the cold, strep but the tonsils/adenoids remain swollen.
The issue here is primarily sleep apnea. There a limit how long you can go on with a kid not sleeping at night.
February 28, 2016 3:23 am at 3:23 am #1139407HealthParticipantJaybird -“I don’t know what C&S means.”
Here’s free advice:
Is the throat area still infected? The way to know is by doing a C & S. C – culture the throat, if something grows then S. S – sensitivity – what the bacteria is sensitive to. What medication should be given to the patient.
“They got rid of the cold, strep but the tonsils/adenoids remain swollen.”
It’s possible that even if there’s no infection, that the tonsils/adenoids will remain swollen.
“The issue here is primarily sleep apnea. There a limit how long
you can go on with a kid not sleeping at night.”
You must treat the OSA (sleep apnea)!
Go to a sleep clinic.
Surgery is a last resort!
The options in the clinic are either CPAP (forced oxygen) or OA (oral appliance).
February 29, 2016 4:59 am at 4:59 am #1139408JaybirdMemberThanks for you advice. It’s greatly appreciated.
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