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April 17, 2011 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #960075Shticky GuyParticipant
Nobody answered yet how long they ate matza after coming out of mitzraim. Clue: until the mon fell. How long was that? Anybody?
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New riddle: When was the first time that klal yisroel kept shabbos en masse?
April 17, 2011 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #960076goody613Membershticky guy- its a gemara in kidushin,first 14 days if im not mistaken and it tasted like mon
April 18, 2011 1:41 am at 1:41 am #960077emlfMemberMorah Reyna: amar oyaiv erdof asig achalaik (Az Yashir) – I heard this one before.
Shticky: mon fell on 16 Iyor, so they ate matza from 15 Nison to 16 Iyor.
This isn’t a riddle, but rather knowledge. There seem to be two opinions as to the identity of the boy that Elisha brought back to life (the son of the Isha HaShunamis). Any idea who it could be? Hint: either one is a novi.
Name a person with the same name as a city in Eretz Yisroel.
April 24, 2011 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #960078Shticky GuyParticipantAny answer on the 1st time klal yisroel kept shabbos en masse?
May 2, 2011 11:57 am at 11:57 am #960079Shticky GuyParticipantOK Here’s the answer:
The first time they kept ??? en masse (as brought down in the ??????) was in ????? , when ??? asked ???? for a day off each week for the Yidden so that they would be more productive and be able to work better, and when ???? agreed they got ??? off.
May 2, 2011 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #960080WolfishMusingsParticipantThe first time they kept ??? en masse (as brought down in the ??????) was in ????? , when ??? asked ???? for a day off each week for the Yidden so that they would be more productive and be able to work better, and when ???? agreed they got ??? off.
That may have been the first time they stopped working for a day en masse, but they certainly didn’t keep the halachos of Shabbos en masse. Shabbos, as you are well aware, is not merely the ceasing of labor. There’s no reason to expect that absent a specific command to do so (which did not exist) that no one wrote a single word, or engaged in borer or even cooked a meal.
The Wolf
May 3, 2011 12:45 am at 12:45 am #960081mosheroseMember“That may have been the first time they stopped working for a day en masse, but they certainly didn’t keep the halachos of Shabbos en masse. Shabbos, as you are well aware, is not merely the ceasing of labor. There’s no reason to expect that absent a specific command to do so (which did not exist) that no one wrote a single word, or engaged in borer or even cooked a meal.”
If the midrash sez they kept shabbas, then tehy kept shabbas. Who do you think you are to argue against a midrash?
May 3, 2011 9:32 am at 9:32 am #960082Shticky GuyParticipantIn the beginning of ?????? ???? ????? it says ????? ???? ??? ??? that Hashem retrospectively brought forward the gift of ???. The ?????? explain this to mean that Moshe arranged with Paraoh to davka be given shabbos off, even before ???, in spite of the fact that a lot of ????? had yet to be given.
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The answer to the mon is from rashi in shmos 16:1 who says on the pasuk that they arrived in midbar sin on 15th of the second month: that this stop in the desert was because the food that they had brought with them from mitzraim ended and they now needed mon, which teaches us that they ate remains of the dough for 61 meals.
And the Ramban says they now complained of lack of food, and it was a miracle that they were all fed on relatively small amounts of food for so long.
May 3, 2011 1:54 pm at 1:54 pm #960083WolfishMusingsParticipantIn the beginning of ?????? ???? ????? it says ????? ???? ??? ??? that Hashem retrospectively brought forward the gift of ???. The ?????? explain this to mean that Moshe arranged with Paraoh to davka be given shabbos off, even before ???, in spite of the fact that a lot of ????? had yet to be given.
I wasn’t disagreeing with that point. But simply taking a day off from work is not keeping Shabbos. Keeping Shabbos means refraining from the 39 melachos. There is no reason to say that that’s what they did in Egypt before the Halachos of Shabbos were given. So yes, they may have taken the day off from work, but they might have still written things, engaged in borer, carried in and out of their homes and so on. They may have had the day of Shabbos off from their toils, but I don’t think you can say that “kept Shabbos.”
The Wolf
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May 3, 2011 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #960084Shticky GuyParticipantbut I dont think you can say that “kept shabbos”.
You’re 100% correct. I cant say that that’s called keeping shabbos. But the meforshim can and do. Thats how they explain the piyut.
And that remains true no matter how many times you put your name at the end of your post 🙂 lol
May 3, 2011 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #960085WolfishMusingsParticipantYou’re 100% correct. I cant say that that’s called keeping shabbos. But the meforshim can and do. Thats how they explain the piyut.
So, you’re saying then that they kept Shabbos in Mitzrayim, with all the Halachos? If so, then what was given at Marah?
And that remains true no matter how many times you put your name at the end of your post 🙂 lol
That’s only because I’m a poor editor. I go back and edit my post and mistakenly sign my name again.
The Wolf
May 3, 2011 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #960086Shticky GuyParticipantNo they werent given ALL the halachos but the basic principle of resting. Dont forget, the 39 melachos of shabbos are learnt out from the mileches hamishkon which at that time had yet to be built (though it wasnt built by moroh either, I hear you say).
Shticky Guy
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(I love editing my posts).
May 4, 2011 12:28 am at 12:28 am #960087mosheroseMember“So, you’re saying then that they kept Shabbos in Mitzrayim, with all the Halachos? If so, then what was given at Marah?”
Yur still arguing on a midrash? Do you think you know what happened in mitzrayim better than chazal?
May 4, 2011 2:53 am at 2:53 am #960088fan of pdMemberi know a Rav that makes up torah riddles for him family all the time—and they are really hard, from what i hear
May 4, 2011 4:03 am at 4:03 am #960089Shticky GuyParticipantSo why dont you try to get hold of them and post them here, then I’ll be a fan of fan of pd
May 4, 2011 4:59 am at 4:59 am #960090WolfishMusingsParticipantNo they werent given ALL the halachos but the basic principle of resting.
OK, so we agree then. We’re just quibbling over the meaning of the words “keep Shabbos.”
The Wolf
May 4, 2011 5:56 am at 5:56 am #960091am yisrael chaiParticipantName a person with the same name as a city in Eretz Yisroel.
Ariel.
May 4, 2011 6:04 am at 6:04 am #960092am yisrael chaiParticipantthe Shunamite’s son was Ido Hanavi (her sister was Avishag Hashunamis)
June 20, 2011 8:12 am at 8:12 am #960093Shticky GuyParticipantHow many times in last week’s sedra (shelach lecha) does it mention the word Meraglim?
June 20, 2011 4:19 pm at 4:19 pm #960094giggle girlParticipantemlf: isn’t one explanation Yona?
June 20, 2011 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #960095on the ballParticipantShticky Guy – the answer is none.
Here’s a few:
Who in tanach had the same name as her sister-in-law?
Give 3 examples of men in tanach employed by their shver to be?
Who was ‘the upside down horn’?
June 20, 2011 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #960096blinkyParticipantotb- for your second riddle heres 2 ppl so far- Moshe and Yaakov
June 20, 2011 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #960097postsemgirlMemberon the ball- Yaakov, Moshe, and Dovid
June 20, 2011 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #960098on the ballParticipantBesides for Aharon – who else was a brother of Moshe Rabenu.
June 20, 2011 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #960099Ragachovers AssistantMemberWe all know the phrase
??? ???? ????
in Megilas Esther.
But where does say
??? ???? ????
June 20, 2011 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #960100on the ballParticipantWhen is better to davka wash hands without a cup after using the bathroom?
June 20, 2011 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #960101yentishParticipant5 two letter words in a row: ki yad al keis kah
5 words starting with alef in a row: omar oyeiv erdof asig achalek (shalal…) from oz yashir
men employed by their shver: yaakov/lavan, moshe/yisro
there’s a great book called crack it! with an orange cover that has alot of these torah riddles
June 20, 2011 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #960102yichusdikParticipantMorah Reyna – five words with the same letter? That’s in Az Yashir., in Parshas Beshalach
-Amar- Oyev -Erdof -Asig -Achalek Shallal
On The ball –
Yaakov employed by Lavan as a shepherd (Rachel, Leah)
Moshe employed by Yisro to tend his flock Shemos 3:1 (Tziporah)
David Hamelech Employed by Shaul Hamelech as a musician and a Warrior Shmuel Alef, 18:20(Michal)
June 20, 2011 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #960103on the ballParticipantSo, employed by a shver-to-be we have so far Yaakov, Moshe and Dovid. I can think of one more – anyone?
June 20, 2011 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #960104on the ballParticipantHere’s a real riddle:
Take away one letter from my new name and you have my king’s name.
Who am I?
June 20, 2011 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #960105postsemgirlMemberon the ball- was the other one Yosef?
June 20, 2011 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #960106blinkyParticipantotb- is it Yosef? Cuz was worked for potifar and he ended up marriying asnas.
Not sure cuz he wasn’t employed exactly he was a slave
June 20, 2011 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #960107am yisrael chaiParticipantjust got on…kudos to everyone for posting these riddles 🙂
??????? (Yirm. 37:3,13)
(Nechemya 3:30, 13:13)
(Ezra 10:39)
June 20, 2011 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #960108on the ballParticipantyes I was thinking of Yosef
June 20, 2011 9:14 pm at 9:14 pm #960109am yisrael chaiParticipant(Bamidbar 15:11) ??? ???? ????
June 20, 2011 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #960110on the ballParticipantAm Yisrael Chai – what do you mean by those references in Yimiyahu, Ezra and Nechemiah?
June 20, 2011 9:29 pm at 9:29 pm #960111am yisrael chaiParticipantotb, btw it’s better to use koach gavra when washing w/o a cup by manually turning the faucet on & off each time.
This is to be done when the cup is ng (a hole, slanted, etc.)
June 20, 2011 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #960112am yisrael chaiParticipantAvigail (w/o yud is Dovid’s sister,w/ yud is Dovid’s wife)
June 20, 2011 9:38 pm at 9:38 pm #960113on the ballParticipantAYC – Re sisters in law – correct.
Re – the washing hands riddle; I was thinking of a time when it’s better to use no keli than a perfectly kosher keli.
June 20, 2011 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #960114am yisrael chaiParticipantif it’s tamei l’mais, e.g.?
June 20, 2011 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #960115on the ballParticipantperfectly kosher and tahor
June 20, 2011 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #960116am yisrael chaiParticipantthe name Shelemiya is in those references; remove the yud to get Shlomo
June 20, 2011 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #960117ravshalomParticipantOTB, when you will eat bread immediately afterwards, according to the opinion that you should not be mafsik with Asher Yatzar between the bracha Al Netilas Yadayim and eating.
June 20, 2011 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #960118on the ballParticipantSorry AYS, Shelemiya wasn’t a new name was it? Also I meant a contemporary king.
June 20, 2011 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #960119on the ballParticipantRavshalom – thats’s right.
June 20, 2011 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #960120on the ballParticipantThat is – according to some shitos, I hasten to add
June 20, 2011 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm #960121am yisrael chaiParticipant???? & ???? were the new names for ????? & ????? (Divrei Hayamim aleph 4:22) & ??? ??
ADD a letter to get King Yehoash! (not what u r looking for,I know!)
June 21, 2011 11:47 am at 11:47 am #960122on the ballParticipantSo – nobody knows who was Moshe Rabenu’s brother besides for Aharon? It’s not a trick question. He was his real brother.
Another riddle:
My brother’s name is four words but mine is only two.
Who am I?
June 21, 2011 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #960123am yisrael chaiParticipant????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ?? ????, ??????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????, ??? ???? ??????? ?? ??? (?????? ????? ??,??)
June 21, 2011 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #960124blinkyParticipantotb- can be the shevatim Dan or Gad (in hebrew) and Yosef
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