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Say you received an invitation to either a tish or farbrengen at the same time, which would you choose to attend and why?
Fargreng has a bad connotatuin farbreng the zeit, wastijg the time.
Neither? I’m not Chassidish nor Lubavitch so neither custom really has any meaning to me. If forced to choose, I guess it depends. Like if it’s one of those Fabrengings I hear about where everyone is shikker on vodka, I’ll risk getting beaned by an apple. However if the Rebbe doesn’t use utensils, and everyone is expected to eat from potato kugel that’s been passed down through dozens of hands, smush my hat creases and call me Shneur Zalman.
Whichever ends earlier and has less people per sq. foot.
@lostpark, according your post you said your a ger, being we have a Gerrer Rebbe maybe you should consider becoming the Troller Rebbe based on the topic you start
Easier to “network” with your chavrusah at a Fabrengin, typically better music and easier access to the food and spirits.
It depends on what game is on TV: Michigan vs. Ohio State – I would watch the game. Michigan vs. Yeshivah U., I would daven for safety of Yeshivah players. Clemson vs. Auburn: Go to the Tish, it’s shorter than than the fahrbengen.
NO THANKS…Been there, done that in my youth, experiences not to be repeated. In don’t need the few drops of wine or morsels of dried out food that badly. The overcrowded and unsafe conditions and rank smell is unappealing.
I’ll decline and send a check.@CTL, are you talking about a sports stadium? because that it sounds like it, only its stale beer not wine
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The last football game I attended was in the old Yankee Stadium in 1962, People were well behaved, most men still wore ties and hats. I don’t remember beer or pushing and shoving, but people walking up the ramps in an orderly fashion.
I attended Yankees Games in the old stadium until about 1990, we had a box and the crowds were not as calm as in the early 60s.
Until Covid, I’d take the grandchildren to the local minor league baseball games here in CT. Beer wasn’t sold here in the stands and they had family sections.In 1970, I attended a Farbrengen at 770. The behaviors, odors and such are reflected in my comments. In the 80s I attended several Tischen in EY. I felt unsafe in terms of overcapacity and safety exits in case of fire. None of these had food or drink worth consuming, but that is not the purpose of the event.
I am not one who enjoys being in crowds and jostled and inhaling the personal odors of those in attendance.
I am Litvak Misnagid on the paternal side and Yekkeh on the maternal side. BUT, I support all varieties of Torah Institutions. That doesn’t mean I have to partake in their events.Farbrengen definetly. in a tish everyone is just looking at one guy and at the end of the day you dont gain that much. at a farbrengen you get inspired start learning more get more involved in yidishkeit.
“just looking at one guy”
You have the chutzpah to speak of a Rebbe that way and then complain about how people speak of yours? That’s your chinuch?
“and at the end of the day you dont gain that much.”
Again, chutzpah. How many tishen have you attended? Is this just your own opinion or did you ask around? Do you really think you can speak of chasdidishe Rabbes and minhagim this way while getting bent out of shape and calling it hate when it’s about you?
“just looking at one guy/////You have the chutzpah to speak of a Rebbe that way and then complain about how people speak of yours? That’s your chinuch?’
Syag: Lighten up. I don’t think Nochum in any way meant to be disrespectful. That is just how some communicate in the abstract. And obviously he is expressing HIS own opinion and experience which may not be nearly the same or as extensive as yours. I understood his point as a simple one which I also share. For younger folks, a Fabrengen is more interactive, casual, perhaps more music and potentially moe spiritually uplifting than a Tish where there is more of “lecture” style of communication and chinuch with less interaction and might even feel like an extension of the a seder at the yeshiva or kollel. Again, your experience may have been exactly the opposite.
GH- I was mirroring his and his friends comments to Avirah and others on the sleeping in the sukkah thread on each of those exact points.
syag lachochma godal hadorah. i think the way i said it was stupid, i do not C’v want to say a chasidisher rebbe is ” one guy” it came out wrong. i apoligize profoundly
syag:
when did nochum say it was hate?A chassidishe farbrengen can accomplish what Malach Michoel cannot
Whichever one has better shrayim.
in a tish you eat the rebbes shirayim in a farbrengen you the bakerys shirayim
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