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March 23, 2015 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #615245ChortkovParticipant
So R’ Sam II – What’s the story of the Posek who made an Al HaMichya on Quinoa?
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/giving-tzedakah-to-aniyim-who-smoke#post-561889
March 23, 2015 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm #1066127Sam2ParticipantAh. An excellent story this is.
So, a few years ago this new grain called qinoa was becoming popular. Many Rabbonim and Poskim didn’t know what to do with it, so like all good Rabbis they asked bigger Rabbis.
One Posek of a large community (and a tremendous Talmid Chacham) asked his Posek, who lives in Eretz Yisrael. The Rav from E”Y told him that qinoa is a grain the same as couscous so the Brachos are just like on couscous.
Now, this Posek is an American who has (presumably, don’t know his life history) been in America for a long time. So the only couscous that he knows is the couscous you buy here. Which, of course, is a Mezonos and an Al Hamichya because it’s not actually couscous-it’s pasta. Couscous is Israel, of course, is a Middle Eastern grain that has either a Mezonos or Adamah before it (Machlokes HaPoskim) and a Borei Nefashos afterwards according to everyone.
I discovered this when I once saw said Posek make an Al Hamichya on qinoa. I (hopefully respectfully) asked him what Pshat was, and he said that that’s what R’ so-and-so said to do. I found that impossible to believe, so I asked exactly what R’ So-andso said. And then I figured out what happened.
As an aside, I use this story as an excellent proof to those who think Kitniyos are outdated and irrelevant. Confusion happens.
March 23, 2015 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #1066128sirvoddmortMemberI may not be Sam2, but…
Once upon a time, there was a Posek who made an Al Hamichya on Quinoa.
The End
March 23, 2015 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #1066129☕️coffee addictParticipantits actually funny you bring this up this year bc the posek of my hashgocha paskened this year that its muttar on pesach after years of being on the fence with it
March 24, 2015 1:29 am at 1:29 am #1066130JosephParticipantSam: Did the posek change after processing your information?
March 24, 2015 1:43 am at 1:43 am #1066131popa_bar_abbaParticipantI heard Rav CHaim Ozer made a borei m’oeri ha’eish on Quinoa to show that it really is a grain, but never heard of anyone making al hamichya.
Sam: that’s a good story. I would have made it up, but you already did.
March 24, 2015 1:56 am at 1:56 am #1066132☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI know it’s not true, because Rabbi Tendler told me he was there when it didn’t happen.
March 24, 2015 2:17 am at 2:17 am #1066133popa_bar_abbaParticipantRabbi Tendler makes an al hamichya on MBP, because a posek once told him that it’s like eating kichel with herring.
March 24, 2015 2:48 am at 2:48 am #1066134Sam2ParticipantJoseph: I certainly hope so. I have not followed up.
PBA: I have a rule in life. There are far too many incredible true stories out there to bother making new ones up.
March 24, 2015 9:10 pm at 9:10 pm #1066135lesschumrasParticipantThis has nothing to do with kitniyos. In fact, I don’t see why the kitniyos concept shouldn’t be retired. It’s either chametz or IG isn’t. Qinoa is not a cereal grain so it is not chametz
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