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October 18, 2015 3:03 am at 3:03 am #616467☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
So I hereby invite all the frei’a apikorsim, especially those who have fallen into either Zionism or Hassidism, to come to me for Shabbos. We’ll drink hot tea, sing zemiros, and I’ll try to knock some straight hashkofos into your krumma heads.
To reserve, call 732-TEA-SING.
#keepingustogether
October 18, 2015 3:11 am at 3:11 am #1105985JosephParticipantI invited a tziyoni last year for the Shabbos Project. Today he is Neteuri Karta.
October 18, 2015 3:27 am at 3:27 am #1105986☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo tell him to come, and I’ll make him frum!
October 18, 2015 3:50 am at 3:50 am #1105987147ParticipantI go thru my own Shabbos project every week, 1st having to project my untimely early departure from work, and then having to prepare food upfront, and then after Shabbos having to tidy up from Shabbos.
Even at busy junctures in time, as this past month with a Chag each Monday, my own Shabbos project doesn’t take a break.
Not even for the busiest of all days:- i.e. Erev Pesach [2021, 2025].
October 18, 2015 4:05 am at 4:05 am #1105988☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo come, food’s on us! I’ll seat you right between Joseph and his NK friend.
October 18, 2015 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #1105989147Participantseat you right between his NK friend. No thanks to offer of a seat in Gehinnom
October 18, 2015 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm #1105990☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhere’s your sense of achdus?
#keepingustogether
October 18, 2015 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #1105991the plumberMemberLast year i invited a chofetz chaim guy…this year ill go Lubavitch
October 18, 2015 4:01 pm at 4:01 pm #1105992JosephParticipantI’m inviting Avi Weiss, Dov Linzer and Asher Lopitan this year.
October 19, 2015 8:34 am at 8:34 am #1105993sm29Participantlol invite a hippy, a democrat, a republican, a MO, a hareidi and some kids for energy. Add some spices and you got quite a salad. oy lol
October 19, 2015 2:41 pm at 2:41 pm #1105994zahavasdadParticipantLast year there was a ferver and a want to do this, this year that ferver is gone and there isnt much energy to do this except among a few people.
October 19, 2015 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #1105995Little FroggieParticipantCould someone ‘esplain me what this is all about?
October 19, 2015 4:48 pm at 4:48 pm #1105996the plumberMemberHey little froggie,
Wanna come to me for shabbos?
We can go challah baking
October 19, 2015 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #1105997Little FroggieParticipantWouldn’t mind going out next Shabbos, at all. I’m currently all doozed out. Ever so slowly recovering from another bout of pneumonia.
October 19, 2015 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #1105998☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantLast year i invited a chofetz chaim guy…this year ill go Lubavitch
Is there a difference?
October 19, 2015 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #1105999Yidesh_kupParticipantI rarely post my comments but i feel here i have to.
I am repulsed by what i read as making fun of the intention of The Shabbos Project. If you aren’t interested in having those who are less fortunate than you or less frum than you at your table, than by all means live in your own world. Don’t invite anyone.
There are many that don’t need a “Shabbos Project” to be inspired to invite strangers into their house for a shabbos meal and perhaps build a relationship that will plant seeds that will last several lifetimes.
The idea to promote kiruv worldwide is admirable. It gives many people the chance to get involved in something that, IMHO will hasten the coming of Moshiach. If you not interested stay out of the way of those that are.
October 19, 2015 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #1106000☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI am repulsed by what i read as making fun of the intention of The Shabbos Project.
You are reading it wrong.
October 19, 2015 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #1106001👑RebYidd23ParticipantWhat makes you think anyone is making fun of anything?
October 19, 2015 9:21 pm at 9:21 pm #1106002Yidesh_kupParticipantTo Quote
1.To reserve, call 732-TEA-SING.
2. Last year i invited a chofetz chaim guy…this year ill go Lubavitch
Is there a difference?
3.lol invite a hippy, a democrat, a republican, a MO, a hareidi and some kids for energy. Add some spices and you got quite a salad. oy lol
4.I invited a tziyoni last year for the Shabbos Project. Today he is Neteuri Karta.
All this comes across as sarcasm…..If i am wrong than please be mochel…..
October 19, 2015 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #1106003cherrybimParticipantWant to know how many are going to become frum as a result of this program; who would not otherwise become frum? Not a one.
October 19, 2015 9:42 pm at 9:42 pm #1106004👑RebYidd23ParticipantWe celebrate our differences through acknowledging them and inviting a whole spicy salad of different types of people. And we also sometimes sing about our favorite beverages.
October 19, 2015 9:46 pm at 9:46 pm #1106005JosephParticipantMochul loch.
October 19, 2015 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm #1106006☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMoichel.
Cherrybim, I disagree, but more than that, I don’t think that’s the only measure of success.
October 20, 2015 12:23 am at 12:23 am #1106007zahavasdadParticipantWant to know how many are going to become frum as a result of this program; who would not otherwise become frum? Not a one.
That is probably true or close to the truth.
October 20, 2015 12:25 am at 12:25 am #1106008☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhy so skeptical?
October 20, 2015 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1106009zahavasdadParticipantI saw what happend last year
And frankly after speaking to people last year, if they want to be more successful they need to persue this a different way. You are not going to be very successful you cant expect people to keep shabbos at first, you need to give them a taste and see how it goes and if they dont like it, accept that as an answer and move and and if they are interested give them more , but not too much at once
October 20, 2015 12:33 am at 12:33 am #1106010☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou would have to see what didn’t happen last year.
October 20, 2015 12:33 am at 12:33 am #1106011☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantI hadn’t opened this thread because I assumed it was an actual
discussion of the Shabbos Project. How wrong I was… at first.
What exactly was your intention, DaasYochid?
(By the way, the hashtag is actually #keepingittogether – not “us”)
October 20, 2015 12:35 am at 12:35 am #1106012☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYes, that was intentional.
October 20, 2015 12:43 am at 12:43 am #1106013☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantI’d considered that. Now, what about your other intentions?
October 20, 2015 12:57 am at 12:57 am #1106014☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYou had to see which other threads were active at the time I posted.
October 20, 2015 1:11 am at 1:11 am #1106015☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantRead your OP, and tell me if you’ve given away
just a little bit of information, please. 🙂
October 20, 2015 1:24 am at 1:24 am #1106016zahavasdadParticipantI pariticipated last year and I had my guest bail on me last year and it seems it happend to alot of people as well and even many who attended the first meal left at some point during shabbos and by Havdalah there were very few guests left.
And even getting guests was hard as many people did not want to give up an entire saturday and sleep over someones house (not commonly done in the general world)
October 20, 2015 1:25 am at 1:25 am #1106017sm29ParticipantPersonally, I think it’s a beautiful idea bringing Jews together to celebrate Shabbos. They probably won’t become observant right away. But the point is to give them a spark to light the flame. Yes one day is not enough. People need continuous support like partners in Torah.
In a time like this, we need both the power of unity and Shabbos to bring blessing and Geula
October 20, 2015 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1106018☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI’m adding people who don’t like gefilte fish to the invite list.
October 20, 2015 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #1106019zahavasdadParticipantFunny thing is , I think in one of the videos someone actually suggested just that to serve someone Gefilte Fish and they will be inspired.
If you dont like a particular food, serving it to them is not a positive experience.
If you are going to invite someone, Make sure you make them foods that they like, not foods you like or you think will inspire them
October 20, 2015 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #1106020Yidesh_kupParticipantMost wont become frum from this….correct. However, one guest i had last year still come 75% of shabbossim to my home. And for the few hours she is there she is eating Kosher and NOT being a chillul Shabbos.
All we can do is plant seeds….
October 20, 2015 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1106021JosephParticipantzsdad, why must you be cynical about anything positive the frum community does?
October 20, 2015 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #1106022🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantjoseph – do you mind if i throw in a response, having been (very wrongly) accused of the same thing?
October 20, 2015 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #1106023JosephParticipantYou need my permission to respond? lol
October 20, 2015 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #1106024zahavasdadParticipantI said and I repeat, There was more enthusiam last year and this year is likely to be a dud and last year turned out to be a dud because of the way it was run and If I was in charge Id make changes to perhaps get better response, however my ideas would not get much traction because people are not willing to think outside of the box and admit that maybe a partial shabbos to start is better than full shabbos (at least the first time).
Invite people for one meal and one service (Friday night would probably work better) and see how it goes. Alot of people are not willing to give up a saturday for Shabbos
October 20, 2015 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #1106025the plumberMemberWe all realise that if 1 single person was inspired and eventually became frum (even if the shabbos just started the process, and he was mekarev 50 years later), the entire concept is worth it.
Sometimes that “feel good” matziv just sets the tone.
So yes. There is probably absolutely noone lined up after havdalah to meet the rabbi, but in a couple (maybe even 10, 20, or even 30) years. You never know
October 20, 2015 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #1106027☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantFunny thing is , I think in one of the videos someone actually suggested just that to serve someone Gefilte Fish and they will be inspired.
If you dont like a particular food, serving it to them is not a positive experience.
They might refer to gefilte fish as “albino meatloaf”.
October 20, 2015 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #1106028👑RebYidd23ParticipantYou never know the negative either. Someone could decide based on a bad experience that they don’t like Shabbos.
October 20, 2015 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #1106029🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantits called being considerate. the question was directed toward someone specifically.
October 20, 2015 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #1106030JosephParticipantYou have my written permission, Syag. Please be gentle with me. 🙂
October 20, 2015 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm #1106031the plumberMemberRebyidd
So we shouldnt do kiruv. They might not like the torah or mitzvos
October 21, 2015 12:17 am at 12:17 am #1106032👑RebYidd23ParticipantI don’t think artificial kiruv is healthy or worthwhile.
October 21, 2015 12:26 am at 12:26 am #1106033☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhatever works, as long as it’s halachcally acceptable. What’s artificial about it?
October 21, 2015 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1106034☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantWHAT IF RABBI GOLDSTEIN TOLD YOU
THE POINT WAS TO BRING US TOGETHER
[Will anyone get it? No one ever seems to…]
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