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    Shainameidel
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    Are there any frum Rothschilds? I know that quite a few have intermarried and many aren’t Jewish anymore but are there any frum extensions of the family?

    #1504249
    Joseph
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    Money corrupts.

    #1504289
    👑RebYidd23
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    If you’re worried about having too much money, I’ll help you with that problem.

    #1504338
    yitzchokm
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    Forget about frum.

    According to my research, none are Jewish at this point.

    #1504331
    Mammele
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    Rebetzin Yemima Mizrachi is a Rothschild, and IIRC her Frum uncle recently passed away in Washington Heights. (I don’t know if he has kids.) I was happy when I recently heard this tidbit in one of her shiurim, as I was also under the erroneous impression that there are no Frum Rothschild descendants.

    #1504371
    Sadigurarebbe
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    Michoel Rothschild founder and director of the chofetz chaim foundation is frum BH.

    #1504361
    Gadolhadorah
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    If you are talking about the Rothschild family from Paris who control the world’s weather (as reported here recently on YWN)) the answer is probably not. If you are talking about the Rothschild family from Willy and BP, absolutely all are frum yidden and big baalei tzadakah.

    #1504422
    Avi K
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    Benjamin and Ariane de Rothschild of Switzerland are jewish and big supporters of Israel.

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    Joseph
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    Supporting Israel has nothing to do with practicing Torah Judaism.

    #1504565
    Shainameidel
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    Gadolhadorah the De Rothschild family is very big and not only in France so my question was more about people who are related to the family rather than people who simply happen to have the same last name. Is the family in BP and Williamsburg know to be related to Mayer Amschel Rothschild?

    #1504736
    yitzchokm
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    Benjamin de Rothschild’s mother was raised catholic.
    His father wasn’t frum. Although she converted to Judaism after she was pregnant with Benjamin, there’s no evidence that it was an orthodox conversion.

    #1504739
    yitzchokm
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    Mammala
    Did Rebetzin Yemima Mizrachi specify which Rothschild family she was from? Because I can’t trace her father to the Mayer amschel

    #1504758
    Mammele
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    Yitchokm: sorry I tried retracing the info I remembered and I was partially wrong.

    All she mentioned was about her uncle Rav Johnathon Rothschild’s from Washington Heights levaye in a Pre-Purim Shiur this year. After that I researched a bit, and some interviews /bios online mention her father being from Switzerland and a “scion of the famous Rothschild Family” without mentioning the words banking. That’s how the seeds were planted in my head…

    So I couldn’t vouch for it, although it was worded to imply that she was from THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY.

    Bear in mind that there are thousands of Meir Anschel descendants, and not all are in the online wiki pages etc.

    #1504978
    Avi K
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    Yitzchokm, there is no evidence that her conversion was not Orthodox.
    woman who converts to judaism while pregnant.

    #1505035
    okay
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    I’m pretty sure that Johnny Rothschild z”l from Washington Heights is not from that Rothschild family.

    #1505168
    Mammele
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    Okay: so I guess the articles I read (Hidabroot comes to mind) about Reb. Yemima Mizrachi were misleading. Sigh…

    And neither are the Chasidic Rothschilds.

    Finally, Avi K: this is quoting Benjamin De Rosthschild from a 1990 Haaretz interview
    “And while we are on the subject of religion, let me tell you that the Jewish people made a very serious mistake by turning conversion into such a difficult process. Mathematically, if it goes on like this, the Jewish religion is liable to disappear. If someone wants to convert, let him convert. Don’t make the procedure so complicated that people despair. If you want to become a Muslim it is very simple; if you want to become a Jew it is almost impossible. My mother was converted by a rabbi in Paris but the Orthodox establishment does not recognize her conversion, so that technically I am not a Jew. If so, why do you ask for money from a goy? I think the religious establishment will have to change a great many things in this area, because it’s a matter of survival.”

    How very sad.

    #1505210
    Mammele
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    Incidentally, Benjamin De Rothschild and his wife (she’s not Jewish and didn’t convert either) have four daughters. So nobody in that family is Jewish.

    If only they tried to uphold their ancestral Yiddishkeit at least as much as they try to maintain the Rothschild fortune and reputation of integrity in business.

    #1505212
    Joseph
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    Mammele: What more do you expect from a goy? Even a goy named Rothschild.

    #1505274
    Mammele
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    Joseph: Actually, I expected more from his father and grandparents.

    #1505277
    yitzchokm
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    As I said, none of the Rothschilds today Jewish according to my research. Let alone, frum.

    #2133664
    chaya13
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    Reb Johnny Rothschild from WH was not a descendant of Asher Anshel and neither is tblch”t his niece Yemima Mizrachi. It is bla”h a large frum family with many descendants who are talmidei chachamim and עוסקים בצרכי צבור באמונהץ. @Mammel, we b”H have plenty of Yidden who are devoted shomrei torah umitvos. It would be a huge mistake to start admitting half baked גרים. We already have issue with גרים returning to the previous lives and making a mess – and more importantly it would be against halacha.

    #2133699
    smerel
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    It’s very unlikely that a frum person who got married in 1770 and had ten children like Meyer Amschel Rothschild did has no frum descendants at all but from his five sons who went into banking it is safe to say that none of their descendants are frum. Therefore if he has he has frum descendants they would be from his other five children who have no money .

    Of interesting note the only major Rothschild scion to have been killed by the Nazis during the holocaust for being Jewish wasn’t actually Jewish. Élisabeth de Rothschild was a Catholic woman who married Philippe de Rothschild. (she officially converted)

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    Lakewoodscoop
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    Like Kurt and Edith Rothschild ????

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