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  • #1068040
    Joseph
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    Complete the last two in this sequence: 1=3, 2=3, 3=5, 4=4, 5=4, 6=3, 7=5, 8=5, 9=4, 10=3, 11=?, 12=?

    #1068041

    Joseph-

    The Incredible Shrinking Watermelons:

    Correct!

    (Many people guess 99 or 98 lbs.)

    a) I said that that “that” that that man wrote should have been underlined.

    b) The word “wholesome”.

    c) A sandstorm at daybreak? A volcanic eruption?

    d) <<non-chap rule>>

    #1068042
    intellegent
    Member

    I can only try

    I think it’s 24 actually. Not sure what you mean by the 13th

    There are 12 trains already out on the track which you pass by the time you’re halfway through and then you pass the next 12 as you finish the second half of the way. You’re basically meeting a train e/ 1/2 hour.

    #1068043

    intelligent-

    1) 12:00 General passes a.(as the General is leaving the first station)

    2) 12:30 General passes b

    3) 1:00 General passes c

    4) 1:30 General passes d

    5) 2:00 General passes e

    6) 2:30 General passes f

    7) 3:00 General passes g

    8) 3:30 General passes h

    9) 4:00 General passes i

    10) 4:30 General passes j

    11) 5:00 General passes k

    12) 5:30 General passes l

    13) 6:00 General passes m

    14) 6:30 General passes n

    15) 7:00 General passes o

    16) 7:30 General passes p

    17) 8:00 General passes q

    18) 8:30 General passes r

    19) 9:00 General passes s

    20) 9:30 General passes t

    21) 10:00 General passes u

    22) 10:30 General passes v

    23) 11:00 General passes w

    24) 11:30 General passes x

    25) 12:00 General passes y (as the General is pulling into the last station)

    #1068044
    intellegent
    Member

    I can only try,

    I guess if you count the train that is coming out of the station as The General pulls in then it’s 25. In my opinion, you either count #1 or #25, not both.

    #1068045
    Joseph
    Participant

    ICOT –

    a – I believe your missing a comma and quotations (Note that I’m no Professor of English.) My answer is:

    I said that, “that ‘that’ that that man wrote should have been underlined.”

    b – correct

    c – correct (a volcano)

    d – meaning it has 3 consecutive sets of two letters

    BTW the “Brain Wave CD” puzzle, I’m still unsure which of Feivel’s page 1 puzzle you are comparing it to, but if your referring to Feivel’s coin puzzle on page 1, this is different (and not the answer your gave in your last response – nor does the response requires any luck.) Either way, I believe this is different.

    #1068046
    Joseph
    Participant

    I don’t know if I explained “that” too well. So here is the best definition I can find about “that”:

    Some claim “that” can only be used four times in a row correctly.

    Here are some of the definitions of the word “that” in the dictionary:

    (As a pronoun)

    1. The one designated or implied. “What kind of soup is that?”

    2. Used as the subject or object of a relative clause, esp. one defining or restricting the antecedent, sometimes replaceable by who, whom, or which: the horse that he bought.

    (As a conjunction)

    3. Used to introduce a subordinate clause. “I doubt that you are right.”

    In addition to these definitions it is possible to use any word as a noun when referring to the word itself in quotation marks: The third “that” is used in this way, as it is in this sentence as well. So to analyze the sentence now:

    I said that(1),”that(2) ‘that'(3) that(4) that(5) man wrote should have been underlined.”

    (1)The first “that” is used according to the second definition, as a conjunction. It introduces the quote. Strictly speaking it isn’t necessary, but in English it is allowed. For example, either of the following two sentences are correct:

    1. I said, “I don’t want to do any more riddles.”

    2. I said that, “I don’t want to do any more riddles.”

    (2) The second “that” follows the first pronoun definition: “The one designated or implied.”

    (3) The one it designates is the third “that,” which has quotation marks since it references itself (it is used as a noun). This is easier to understand if you imagine another word, like “letter” in its place: I said that, “That letter that…” – except that it was not a letter written, but the word “that.”

    (4) The fourth “that” is used according to the second definition. This is easier to understand if you replace it with “which”: I said that “that ‘that’ which that man wrote…”

    (5) The fifth “that” refers to the man, again using the first definition: “The one designated or implied.”

    Clearer? Perhaps not. However, does the following sentence make sense?

    I said that, “that word which that man wrote should have been underlined.”

    Now just replace “which” with “that,” and it still makes sense, right?

    I said that, “that word that that man wrote should have been underlined.”

    And finally, replace “word” with “that,” and it is clear that the speaker is referring to a specific incidence of the word “that,” in whatever the man wrote, and that the speaker thinks (for some reason) that the word should be underlined.

    I said that, “that ‘that’ that that man wrote should have been underlined.”

    And that is all that I have to say about that riddle and that “that” or any other “that” that comes along. Which “that?” Never mind that.

    #1068047

    Joseph,

    Your explanation was way over my head.

    Using word substitution for clarity, here’s my answer:

    Original:

    -I said that that that that that man wrote should have been underlined.

    My answer:

    -I said that that “that” that that man wrote should have been underlined.

    Meaning:

    -I said that the “that” which that man wrote should have been underlined.

    #1068048

    Makes perfect sense to me. However- and I am not an English Professor either- I believe that ICOT was correct in omitting the comma and quotation marks. Here’s why:

    Generally, when a sentence is introduced by the words “X said that” it means that the words to follow are not direct quotes but rather paraphrases. So I could say “ICOT said that she didn’t understand Joseph’s explanation” even though her actual words were “Your explanation was way over my head.”

    Along the same lines, a comma is not required because it is not a direct quote. If I were quoting directly- omitting the “that”- my sentence would then look like this:

    ICOT said, “Your explanation was way over my head.”

    as opposed to

    ICOT said that she didn’t understand Joseph’s explanation.

    Does this make sense?

    #1068049
    intellegent
    Member

    jewishfeminist02 is correct. When you use the word “that”, the following words are not in quotes.

    (If icot was missing the comma, you should have also mentioned that he was missing the quotes, no?)

    #1068050

    Joseph-

    “What are the only English words with three consecutive repeated letters?”

    Bookkeeper is the one I knew.

    “The Problem Of The Brainwave CD Weights”

    “…one is full of Cds…”

    -So, there are multiple CDs per box.

    Take one from box 1, two from box 2 and so on up until ten.

    You now have a stack of 55 CDs.

    Weigh the stack.

    717 grams means box 1 is “delta”, 719 grams means box 2 is “delta” and so on.

    I was comparing thisto Feivel’s “25 gold coins” puzzle.

    #1068051
    Joseph
    Participant

    ICOT,

    Correct and correct!

    Bookkeepper (and its variants) is the only such English word. So how long did it take you to go through your mental edition of the Oxford English Dictionary? 🙂

    #1068052
    noitallmr
    Participant

    How does this make sense then Joseph…

    Note: this is how it sounds when spoken- spelling might be wrong!

    Right Right Right Right Right Right Now…

    #1068053

    Joseph,

    First I had to go through all words containing 2 x 2 letters (such as coffee), then try all permutations.

    noitallmr-

    -Impatient English teacher, dictating spelling words.

    #1068054
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    Hi everyone,

    It’s great to be back, I missed you all!

    Here’s a riddle for today:

    What’s red and white, 19.5 inches long, weighs 7 lbs. 6 3/4 oz, cries a lot and gives Dr. and Dr. Pepper so much nachas?

    #1068055
    Joseph
    Participant

    Dr. Pepper, Mazal Tov, Mazal Tov, Mazal Tov!

    #1068056

    Dr. Pepper-

    Mazel tov!

    May Reb Dr. and Rebetzin Dr. have much nachas, and be zoche to be megadel the newest little Pepper leTorah, lechuppa ulemaseh tovim.

    #1068057
    noitallmr
    Participant

    Mazel Tov Dr Pepper- Asach Nachas fun ale Kinda im”y. Is it a boy or a girl?

    #1068058
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Dr. Pepper, mazal tov!!!!

    #1068059
    anon for this
    Participant

    Dr. Pepper,

    My favorite riddle so far, and not just because I knew the answer! Mazal Tov!

    #1068060
    GivPerf
    Member

    Is that a mazel tov?

    #1068061

    Dr. Pepper-

    Speaking for corn-meisters everywhere:

    What a positive development.

    Even the most negative personality can enjoy your simcha.

    May your simchos continue to multiply.

    Your post is exponentially the best one on this thread.

    Once again, Mazel tov.

    #1068062
    Ashrecha Yisroel
    Participant

    What’s the only english word with all the vowels in order?

    (I haven’t been keeping up with this one. I hope it wasn’t asked yet.)

    #1068063
    Ashrecha Yisroel
    Participant

    *… all of the vowels …

    #1068064
    Doc
    Participant

    I can only try:

    Can you clarify who/what you meant above by “Even the most negative personality…”?

    Thanks

    #1068065

    Ashrecha Yisroel-

    I remembered that question, but had forgotten the answer.

    After a frustrating minute or two of trying to remember, I googled it (thereby disqualifying myself from answering), and found there are actually several words that meet your criteria.

    Once someone else gets one, or you post the answer, I’d like to post the others.

    #1068066

    Doc-

    Even asking that question is putting too much time into “darsheining” that post.

    Since this is the riddle thread, here are a couple of clues:

    a) Dr. Pepper is a math maven.

    b) I am the self-confessed king of corn(iness).

    c) Read all of the sentences in my post, and find a common thread.

    d) Once you get it, don’t forget to wish the Drs. Pepper a mazel tov.

    #1068067
    Doc
    Participant

    Dr. Pepper:

    A “hartziga Mazel Tov!”

    I can only try:

    Gotcha!

    Did anyone ever mention you have a way with words? 🙂

    #1068068

    Doc-

    Thank you – glad you got a chuckle out of it.

    #1068069
    noitallmr
    Participant

    Maybe you invite us all to the Sholom Zochor/Kiddush and where it is?

    #1068070
    noitallmr
    Participant

    ICOT- don’t have access to Google at the minute so what words did you find?

    #1068071
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    Thanks everyone for the warm Mazel Tov wishes. I wish I could thank each of you personally but as you can imagine I’m very busy now.

    May we all continue to see many more simchas in the future.

    The correct answer is our baby girl.

    #1068072
    Ashrecha Yisroel
    Participant

    Facetious

    an sometimes “y”: facetiously

    #1068073
    myshadow
    Member

    Pepper Mazal tov! Welcome another pepper to the YWN family!!!

    #1068074
    noitallmr
    Participant

    BTW I can only try-

    Right! Right (name of student) write “Wright” right, right now…

    Nice try anyway

    #1068075

    noitallmr-

    Everything below was done by someone else’s research.

    I googled “word with all vowels in correct order”

    The shortest and most common word I found that meets your criteria

    is “facetious”. “facetiously” also contains the vowels in the right order and

    even has a ‘y’ at the end as an added bonus. Here is a list of other words

    that meet your criteria in the strictest sense, with no vowels occurring

    outside of their allotted place:

    abstemious

    abstemiously

    abstentious

    adventitious

    adventitiously

    arenicolous

    arsenious

    cavernicolous

    Here are some other words that have all five vowels in the correct order, but

    also contain some duplicate vowels which are out of order:

    abstemiousness

    abstemiousnesses

    adenocarcinomatous

    amentiferous

    anemophilous

    antireligious

    argentiferous

    arteriovenous

    autoecious

    autoeciously

    facetiousness

    facetiousnesses

    garnetiferous

    sacrilegious

    sacrilegiously

    sacrilegiousness

    sacrilegiousnesses

    ultraserious

    #1068076

    An Attractive Puzzle

    Yankel the physicist is the latest candidate to try to win the grand prize offered by King Xerxes to anyone who can solve his puzzle.

    A few facts about the room:

    – It contains no metal objects.

    – There is no metal imbedded in the walls, floor, ceiling, door etc.

    – Yankel was carefully searched to ensure that he carried in no metal objects.

    What should Yankel do?

    #1068077
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    Put them together like a “T”. The middle of a bar magnet will not be magnetized because the magnetic force from the poles are cancelled out in the middle. If they are attracted to each other then the vertical bar is the magnet. If there is no attraction then the horizontal bar is the magnet.

    #1068078

    Dr. Pepper-

    Correct!

    It’s good to see that your thought process works well, even with lack of sleep 🙂

    #1068079
    noitallmr
    Participant

    What’s next in this sequence?

    42, 72, __

    #1068080
    YW Moderator-72
    Participant

    boitallmr,

    am I allowed to guess?

    #1068081
    brooklyn19
    Participant

    lol time out – me first. ummmm 86?

    #1068082

    99 lol

    #1068083
    brooklyn19
    Participant

    no way it’s 42, 72, 86, 99 isn’t it?

    #1068084

    Losing Weight

    George Bush, Al Gore, and John Kerry have a foot race around the moon’s Equator.

    Each wore a baseball cap depicting the logo of their favorite team.

    Whose cap travelled farthest?

    Bonus: How much further did each cap travel than its owners shoes?

    #1068085

    Wake Up! Wake Up!

    Which planet has two sunrises and sunsets on the same day?

    How is that possible?

    #1068086

    Putting On Airs

    If the Earth’s atmosphere suddenly disappeared (and all living things were somehow able to survive without it) would Shabbos and Yom Tov be affected at all? How?

    #1068087
    noitallmr
    Participant

    Riddle:

    How come we don’t all become deaf by the Crack of Dawn?

    #1068088

    noitallmr-

    Since the crack of dawn is accompanied by a lightening of the sky, and light travels much faster than sound, we have enough advance warning to cover our ears.

    #1068089
    intellegent
    Member

    I can only try,

    Is it because light can only travel through matter (the gases in the air) so we wouldn’t know day and night? But then you probably would have mentioned more things then shabbos and yom tov such as zmanim for tefilla.

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