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December 14, 2008 6:18 am at 6:18 am #1068040JosephParticipant
Complete the last two in this sequence: 1=3, 2=3, 3=5, 4=4, 5=4, 6=3, 7=5, 8=5, 9=4, 10=3, 11=?, 12=?
December 14, 2008 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #1068041I can only tryMemberJoseph-
The Incredible Shrinking Watermelons:
Correct!
(Many people guess 99 or 98 lbs.)
a) I said that that “that” that that man wrote should have been underlined.
b) The word “wholesome”.
c) A sandstorm at daybreak? A volcanic eruption?
d) <<non-chap rule>>
December 14, 2008 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #1068042intellegentMemberI can only try
I think it’s 24 actually. Not sure what you mean by the 13th
There are 12 trains already out on the track which you pass by the time you’re halfway through and then you pass the next 12 as you finish the second half of the way. You’re basically meeting a train e/ 1/2 hour.
December 14, 2008 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #1068043I can only tryMemberintelligent-
1) 12:00 General passes a.(as the General is leaving the first station)
2) 12:30 General passes b
3) 1:00 General passes c
4) 1:30 General passes d
5) 2:00 General passes e
6) 2:30 General passes f
7) 3:00 General passes g
8) 3:30 General passes h
9) 4:00 General passes i
10) 4:30 General passes j
11) 5:00 General passes k
12) 5:30 General passes l
13) 6:00 General passes m
14) 6:30 General passes n
15) 7:00 General passes o
16) 7:30 General passes p
17) 8:00 General passes q
18) 8:30 General passes r
19) 9:00 General passes s
20) 9:30 General passes t
21) 10:00 General passes u
22) 10:30 General passes v
23) 11:00 General passes w
24) 11:30 General passes x
25) 12:00 General passes y (as the General is pulling into the last station)
December 14, 2008 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #1068044intellegentMemberI can only try,
I guess if you count the train that is coming out of the station as The General pulls in then it’s 25. In my opinion, you either count #1 or #25, not both.
December 14, 2008 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #1068045JosephParticipantICOT –
a – I believe your missing a comma and quotations (Note that I’m no Professor of English.) My answer is:
I said that, “that ‘that’ that that man wrote should have been underlined.”
b – correct
c – correct (a volcano)
d – meaning it has 3 consecutive sets of two letters
BTW the “Brain Wave CD” puzzle, I’m still unsure which of Feivel’s page 1 puzzle you are comparing it to, but if your referring to Feivel’s coin puzzle on page 1, this is different (and not the answer your gave in your last response – nor does the response requires any luck.) Either way, I believe this is different.
December 14, 2008 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #1068046JosephParticipantI don’t know if I explained “that” too well. So here is the best definition I can find about “that”:
Some claim “that” can only be used four times in a row correctly.
Here are some of the definitions of the word “that” in the dictionary:
(As a pronoun)
1. The one designated or implied. “What kind of soup is that?”
2. Used as the subject or object of a relative clause, esp. one defining or restricting the antecedent, sometimes replaceable by who, whom, or which: the horse that he bought.
(As a conjunction)
3. Used to introduce a subordinate clause. “I doubt that you are right.”
In addition to these definitions it is possible to use any word as a noun when referring to the word itself in quotation marks: The third “that” is used in this way, as it is in this sentence as well. So to analyze the sentence now:
I said that(1),”that(2) ‘that'(3) that(4) that(5) man wrote should have been underlined.”
(1)The first “that” is used according to the second definition, as a conjunction. It introduces the quote. Strictly speaking it isn’t necessary, but in English it is allowed. For example, either of the following two sentences are correct:
1. I said, “I don’t want to do any more riddles.”
2. I said that, “I don’t want to do any more riddles.”
(2) The second “that” follows the first pronoun definition: “The one designated or implied.”
(3) The one it designates is the third “that,” which has quotation marks since it references itself (it is used as a noun). This is easier to understand if you imagine another word, like “letter” in its place: I said that, “That letter that…” – except that it was not a letter written, but the word “that.”
(4) The fourth “that” is used according to the second definition. This is easier to understand if you replace it with “which”: I said that “that ‘that’ which that man wrote…”
(5) The fifth “that” refers to the man, again using the first definition: “The one designated or implied.”
Clearer? Perhaps not. However, does the following sentence make sense?
I said that, “that word which that man wrote should have been underlined.”
Now just replace “which” with “that,” and it still makes sense, right?
I said that, “that word that that man wrote should have been underlined.”
And finally, replace “word” with “that,” and it is clear that the speaker is referring to a specific incidence of the word “that,” in whatever the man wrote, and that the speaker thinks (for some reason) that the word should be underlined.
I said that, “that ‘that’ that that man wrote should have been underlined.”
And that is all that I have to say about that riddle and that “that” or any other “that” that comes along. Which “that?” Never mind that.
December 14, 2008 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #1068047I can only tryMemberJoseph,
Your explanation was way over my head.
Using word substitution for clarity, here’s my answer:
Original:
-I said that that that that that man wrote should have been underlined.
My answer:
-I said that that “that” that that man wrote should have been underlined.
Meaning:
-I said that the “that” which that man wrote should have been underlined.
December 14, 2008 9:22 pm at 9:22 pm #1068048jewishfeminist02MemberMakes perfect sense to me. However- and I am not an English Professor either- I believe that ICOT was correct in omitting the comma and quotation marks. Here’s why:
Generally, when a sentence is introduced by the words “X said that” it means that the words to follow are not direct quotes but rather paraphrases. So I could say “ICOT said that she didn’t understand Joseph’s explanation” even though her actual words were “Your explanation was way over my head.”
Along the same lines, a comma is not required because it is not a direct quote. If I were quoting directly- omitting the “that”- my sentence would then look like this:
ICOT said, “Your explanation was way over my head.”
as opposed to
ICOT said that she didn’t understand Joseph’s explanation.
Does this make sense?
December 14, 2008 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #1068049intellegentMemberjewishfeminist02 is correct. When you use the word “that”, the following words are not in quotes.
(If icot was missing the comma, you should have also mentioned that he was missing the quotes, no?)
December 15, 2008 5:20 am at 5:20 am #1068050I can only tryMemberJoseph-
“What are the only English words with three consecutive repeated letters?”
Bookkeeper is the one I knew.
“The Problem Of The Brainwave CD Weights”
“…one is full of Cds…”
-So, there are multiple CDs per box.
Take one from box 1, two from box 2 and so on up until ten.
You now have a stack of 55 CDs.
Weigh the stack.
717 grams means box 1 is “delta”, 719 grams means box 2 is “delta” and so on.
I was comparing thisto Feivel’s “25 gold coins” puzzle.
December 15, 2008 9:16 am at 9:16 am #1068051JosephParticipantICOT,
Correct and correct!
Bookkeepper (and its variants) is the only such English word. So how long did it take you to go through your mental edition of the Oxford English Dictionary? 🙂
December 15, 2008 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #1068052noitallmrParticipantHow does this make sense then Joseph…
Note: this is how it sounds when spoken- spelling might be wrong!
Right Right Right Right Right Right Now…
December 15, 2008 5:01 pm at 5:01 pm #1068053I can only tryMemberJoseph,
First I had to go through all words containing 2 x 2 letters (such as coffee), then try all permutations.
noitallmr-
-Impatient English teacher, dictating spelling words.
December 16, 2008 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #1068054Dr. PepperParticipantHi everyone,
It’s great to be back, I missed you all!
Here’s a riddle for today:
What’s red and white, 19.5 inches long, weighs 7 lbs. 6 3/4 oz, cries a lot and gives Dr. and Dr. Pepper so much nachas?
December 16, 2008 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #1068055JosephParticipantDr. Pepper, Mazal Tov, Mazal Tov, Mazal Tov!
December 16, 2008 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #1068056I can only tryMemberDr. Pepper-
Mazel tov!
May Reb Dr. and Rebetzin Dr. have much nachas, and be zoche to be megadel the newest little Pepper leTorah, lechuppa ulemaseh tovim.
December 16, 2008 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #1068057noitallmrParticipantMazel Tov Dr Pepper- Asach Nachas fun ale Kinda im”y. Is it a boy or a girl?
December 16, 2008 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm #1068058SJSinNYCMemberDr. Pepper, mazal tov!!!!
December 16, 2008 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #1068059anon for thisParticipantDr. Pepper,
My favorite riddle so far, and not just because I knew the answer! Mazal Tov!
December 16, 2008 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #1068060GivPerfMemberIs that a mazel tov?
December 16, 2008 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #1068061I can only tryMemberDr. Pepper-
Speaking for corn-meisters everywhere:
What a positive development.
Even the most negative personality can enjoy your simcha.
May your simchos continue to multiply.
Your post is exponentially the best one on this thread.
Once again, Mazel tov.
December 17, 2008 12:34 am at 12:34 am #1068062Ashrecha YisroelParticipantWhat’s the only english word with all the vowels in order?
(I haven’t been keeping up with this one. I hope it wasn’t asked yet.)
December 17, 2008 12:39 am at 12:39 am #1068063Ashrecha YisroelParticipant*… all of the vowels …
December 17, 2008 1:00 am at 1:00 am #1068064DocParticipantI can only try:
Can you clarify who/what you meant above by “Even the most negative personality…”?
Thanks
December 17, 2008 2:40 am at 2:40 am #1068065I can only tryMemberAshrecha Yisroel-
I remembered that question, but had forgotten the answer.
After a frustrating minute or two of trying to remember, I googled it (thereby disqualifying myself from answering), and found there are actually several words that meet your criteria.
Once someone else gets one, or you post the answer, I’d like to post the others.
December 17, 2008 3:53 am at 3:53 am #1068066I can only tryMemberDoc-
Even asking that question is putting too much time into “darsheining” that post.
Since this is the riddle thread, here are a couple of clues:
a) Dr. Pepper is a math maven.
b) I am the self-confessed king of corn(iness).
c) Read all of the sentences in my post, and find a common thread.
d) Once you get it, don’t forget to wish the Drs. Pepper a mazel tov.
December 17, 2008 4:06 am at 4:06 am #1068067DocParticipantDr. Pepper:
A “hartziga Mazel Tov!”
I can only try:
Gotcha!
Did anyone ever mention you have a way with words? 🙂
December 17, 2008 4:37 am at 4:37 am #1068068I can only tryMemberDoc-
Thank you – glad you got a chuckle out of it.
December 17, 2008 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm #1068069noitallmrParticipantMaybe you invite us all to the Sholom Zochor/Kiddush and where it is?
December 17, 2008 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm #1068070noitallmrParticipantICOT- don’t have access to Google at the minute so what words did you find?
December 17, 2008 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #1068071Dr. PepperParticipantThanks everyone for the warm Mazel Tov wishes. I wish I could thank each of you personally but as you can imagine I’m very busy now.
May we all continue to see many more simchas in the future.
The correct answer is our baby girl.
December 17, 2008 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #1068072Ashrecha YisroelParticipantFacetious
an sometimes “y”: facetiously
December 17, 2008 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #1068073myshadowMemberPepper Mazal tov! Welcome another pepper to the YWN family!!!
December 17, 2008 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #1068074noitallmrParticipantBTW I can only try-
Right! Right (name of student) write “Wright” right, right now…
Nice try anyway
December 18, 2008 3:43 am at 3:43 am #1068075I can only tryMembernoitallmr-
Everything below was done by someone else’s research.
I googled “word with all vowels in correct order”
The shortest and most common word I found that meets your criteria
is “facetious”. “facetiously” also contains the vowels in the right order and
even has a ‘y’ at the end as an added bonus. Here is a list of other words
that meet your criteria in the strictest sense, with no vowels occurring
outside of their allotted place:
abstemious
abstemiously
abstentious
adventitious
adventitiously
arenicolous
arsenious
cavernicolous
Here are some other words that have all five vowels in the correct order, but
also contain some duplicate vowels which are out of order:
abstemiousness
abstemiousnesses
adenocarcinomatous
amentiferous
anemophilous
antireligious
argentiferous
arteriovenous
autoecious
autoeciously
facetiousness
facetiousnesses
garnetiferous
sacrilegious
sacrilegiously
sacrilegiousness
sacrilegiousnesses
ultraserious
December 18, 2008 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #1068076I can only tryMemberAn Attractive Puzzle
Yankel the physicist is the latest candidate to try to win the grand prize offered by King Xerxes to anyone who can solve his puzzle.
A few facts about the room:
– It contains no metal objects.
– There is no metal imbedded in the walls, floor, ceiling, door etc.
– Yankel was carefully searched to ensure that he carried in no metal objects.
What should Yankel do?
December 18, 2008 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #1068077Dr. PepperParticipantPut them together like a “T”. The middle of a bar magnet will not be magnetized because the magnetic force from the poles are cancelled out in the middle. If they are attracted to each other then the vertical bar is the magnet. If there is no attraction then the horizontal bar is the magnet.
December 18, 2008 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #1068078I can only tryMemberDr. Pepper-
Correct!
It’s good to see that your thought process works well, even with lack of sleep 🙂
December 21, 2008 1:41 am at 1:41 am #1068079noitallmrParticipantWhat’s next in this sequence?
42, 72, __
December 21, 2008 1:57 am at 1:57 am #1068080YW Moderator-72Participantboitallmr,
am I allowed to guess?
December 21, 2008 1:59 am at 1:59 am #1068081brooklyn19Participantlol time out – me first. ummmm 86?
December 21, 2008 2:05 am at 2:05 am #1068082dont have internetMember99 lol
December 21, 2008 2:10 am at 2:10 am #1068083brooklyn19Participantno way it’s 42, 72, 86, 99 isn’t it?
December 21, 2008 3:38 am at 3:38 am #1068084I can only tryMemberLosing Weight
George Bush, Al Gore, and John Kerry have a foot race around the moon’s Equator.
Each wore a baseball cap depicting the logo of their favorite team.
Whose cap travelled farthest?
Bonus: How much further did each cap travel than its owners shoes?
December 21, 2008 3:41 am at 3:41 am #1068085I can only tryMemberWake Up! Wake Up!
Which planet has two sunrises and sunsets on the same day?
How is that possible?
December 21, 2008 3:45 am at 3:45 am #1068086I can only tryMemberPutting On Airs
If the Earth’s atmosphere suddenly disappeared (and all living things were somehow able to survive without it) would Shabbos and Yom Tov be affected at all? How?
December 21, 2008 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #1068087noitallmrParticipantRiddle:
How come we don’t all become deaf by the Crack of Dawn?
December 21, 2008 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #1068088I can only tryMembernoitallmr-
Since the crack of dawn is accompanied by a lightening of the sky, and light travels much faster than sound, we have enough advance warning to cover our ears.
December 22, 2008 10:23 am at 10:23 am #1068089intellegentMemberI can only try,
Is it because light can only travel through matter (the gases in the air) so we wouldn’t know day and night? But then you probably would have mentioned more things then shabbos and yom tov such as zmanim for tefilla.
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