The Lubavicher Rebbe “Shlit”a”

I object to the term “nut jobs” here. That implies lack of bechira and inability to do teshiva. I prefer the term apikorsim like Rav Aharon Fedman zt”l used. Yemincha peshuta lekabel shavim.

Rubashkin ?

I love how when TT Says shlita it gets taken out but when someone wants to make fun your allowed to have it

It’s All a matter of opinion, why cant he write it??

Maybe some of the mods are Lubavitch

As much as I am opposed to the Mechiasism, I do not support trolling people either

*I cant stop him from voicing his opinion

If someone were to call him something nasty, would you defend it as someone’s opinion

I may disagree with it but will I not let him voice his opinion
Btw ppl do use really degrading word on all sorts of ppl on TYW and the mods allow it

The L Rebbe himself explained, in connection with the wish “yechi hamelech”, which is found in Tanach, that it can be understood two ways. In the case of a living person it can be understood as a prayer that he not die, and in the case of a deceased person it can be understood as a prayer for techiyas hameisim. The same is true for “shlita”; we hope that all the shochnei ofor will wake up and sing, and live for a long time (according to the Rambam) or forever (according to the Ramban),

Milhouse: Why, then, has there been strong opposition *within Lubavitch* to the appellation “shlita” upon the Lubavitcher Rebbe zt”l?

“Why, then, has there been strong opposition *within Lubavitch* to the appellation “shlita” upon the Lubavitcher Rebbe zt”l?”

I was told because they are worried about those that say “Na’aseh Adom” – a proof of shtey reshuyos, these same people will also shilta means…as we see indeed there are such people that have such ta’anos. But others hold, “ha’rotzeh litos – yiteh” (those who with to mistaken – let them), as Rashi says in chumash).

“The L Rebbe himself explained, in connection with the wish “yechi hamelech””
Did the Rebbe have an explanation for the rest of the yechi chant? We’d love to hear it.

Lol u guys are funny!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rav aharon Feldman shlita.

ClearKop – “This writing letters to the rebbe thing is like cristians keeping touch with yoshka. ”

Do xians write letters to yoshka?! I never heard of that! I know some children write to santa and send letters to North Pole, but to yoshka?! What address?!

I do know that many leave wedding invitations at the kever of departed parents or grandparents. Is that also a xian minhag?!

Or leaving a kvitel at a tzaddiks kever or a kivrei tzddikim in Israel – is that xian?!

Or a note in the kosel – is that from xians?!

My point is that yidden do these things but I never heard of xians doing this, yet you claim they do. Provide proof or admit that you “were raised in a crazy home” (your words) because kol haposel, b’mumo posel.

I prefer the term apikorsim

I was not aware that mistakenly (and even purposely) believing that a deceased person is alive is apikorsus. To the best of my knowledge, it is simply incorrect, and being factually incorrect regarding the living status of any particular modern person is not grounds for calling someone an apikorus.

The Wolf

The picture I posted in https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/the-lubavicher-rebbe-shlita/#post-1705012

shows a big banner hanging off a school with a moshiach flag, saying “The Rebbe physically lives in this physical world”.

That doesn’t fit into anything anyone here is saying.

Daas yochid- yes it is ok to mock avodah zara, but as we already know that even fighting against people who are actively pulling people away from yiddishkeit, has to be done ina good way. Having kpeida or acting with gaava, even in appropriate situations, is not good, because it will lead a person to have those middos in other areas of life.

Correct?

An another note, there are mefarshim that say that when the gemara says that in the times of Mashiach, the sofrim will br despised, it is referring to the chochma of gematrios.

Gematrios is not just a cutesy thing.
The sefer kol hator, from the talmid of the vilna gaon, says thst the gaon held that everyone should know all of the gematrios of their names, and see pesukim that show those gematrios, for chizzuk.

Gematrios are brought down numerous times in gemara, medrash, and other places. Rav chiya bar abba had atbach- thst is befeirush in gemara sukkah. Almost all the chassidishe sefarim are full of gematrios, as well as kabalah sefarim.

This post is for anyone who dont like gematrios, and just because daas yochid made the comment, does not mean he is against gematrios

שפתיו דובבות בקבר is a chazal that you are unaware of. It applies talmidei chachomim that are בקבר yet their lips are MOVING! If someone’s lips are moving – is that person dead? Define dead?!

The Rebbe had a stroke in 1992. He was quite incapacitated from it. When he died, a death certificate was issued, which is easily googlable for whoever wants to see it. They don’t issue one until an exhaustive battery of test are done. I spoke to someone who was in the ambulance that did hotzaas hameis, who assured me that the Rebbe’s body was doing all the things dead bodies do when they’re out of the fridge. There was a tight chain of custody until the Rebbe was put into a coffin, and the coffin was carried by Chabadskers. Once the Rebbe was put in and covered with 6 feet of dirt, even if he was alive and healthy he would have no way of clawing himself out. So at best he would have lived another few hours before succumbing to lack of air. Yet we see they hold he’s physically alive. Quit the magic trick.

Lernt – On the kever of Rambam it says שפתיו דובבות בקבר (even though he is buried under the ground and cannot “breath” – his lips are moving. I and you do not understand it, but if Chazal say so, it must be true! Also ON THE KEVER of Dovid Hamelech it says Dovid Melech Yisroel CHAI VKAYOM – kind of an oxymoron ON HIS KEVER, but we accept that (maybe you don’t but klal yisroel says ovid Melech Yisroel Chai VKayom at kiddush levana).

In your words: “Quite a mgic trick.”

Yet I tbelieve CHazal speak REALITY and not magic tricks. You are welcome to disbelieve Chazal (but they acceot that you become a kofe).

DY – Rav Shach shlita If a litvak would actually call him that, he’d be considered insane.”

And you agree that any Litvak that says on Rav Shach שפתיו דובבות בקבר would also be considered insane.