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October 12, 2018 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #1604119☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
I once heard a drasha from R’ Yechiel Perr, Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshiva of Far Rockaway who explained that wearing a talis in a visible way in the street might have caused an anti-Semitic response. I think he quoted R’ Yaakov that it was proper no to wear the talis openly.
It’s a מגן אברהם in סי’ כ”ה, also brought in משנה ברורה.
October 12, 2018 1:48 pm at 1:48 pm #1604136GAONParticipantDY, Las,
“I think he quoted R’ Yaakov that it was proper no to wear the talis openly.”
“It’s a מגן אברהם in סי’ כ”ה, also brought in משנה ברורה.”True, but Rav Yaakov was speaking in terms of wearing it in America, as some claimed the the reason given by the MB/MA is not relevant nowadays.
(However, that may depend as well in the neighborhood, and is also possible nowadays is diff from Rav Yaakov as well. In a generation that people out there wear everything and anything – everything goes! So why is a talis different than a one wearing purple hair and a nose ring etc, in terms of arousing any antisemitism..)
October 12, 2018 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #1604122Reb EliezerParticipantGaon, what about the Magon Avrohom to tuck the ztitzis in the kanfos among the goyim?
October 12, 2018 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #1604183youdontsayParticipantGAON:
“I agree that Rav Moshe himself did not specify. However, nor do we find any statement regarding the Gezero once an Eruv has been constructed.
Hence, logic and halacha would point out that, if halachakly it is permitted to carry, it makes no sense to be able to be ‘mechadesh’ a new gezera’ to asur one from what the Torah clearly permits i.e. carrying in a reshus haYachid’.
Yes, if one would ask Rav Moshe if constructing an eruv is advisable, he would respond: although eruv has a tremendous benefits, but in this case it is better not to, due to his chashash. That is not exactly enacting a “new Gezero”. It is just leaving everything in its former status of Shav va’al Ta’se”It does not seem so from Rav Moshe’s teshuvos. Clearly he maintained that we have to be concerned that some may think that an area does contain shishim ribo. Hence, he was concerned enough to entertain using this gezeirah against establishing an eruv in Brooklyn and Detroit. Hence, even if I agree with you, it’s difficult to argue things in Rav Moshe’s name when he didn’t say so explicitly.
In any case, if your arguing about making sense, eruvin is not one of those inyanim where sense plays a role, particularly when it comes to interpreting Rav Moshe’s shitos. Furthermore, if you are asking on Rav Moshe’s gezeirah, you can might as well ask on all of his shitos regarding eruvin, they are just as mechudash.
October 13, 2018 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #1604259☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantSo why is a talis different than a one wearing purple hair and a nose ring etc, in terms of arousing any antisemitism..
I don’t recommend that either
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