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    Derech
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    If the Israeli settlers are truly interested in settling in all parts of Eretz Yisroel, even if risking Jewish lives by doing so, why don’t they as well settle in Southern Lebanon — which is as much a part of Eretz Yisroel as Judea and Samaria?

    #866280
    mdd
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    Practically impossible.

    #866281
    Avi K
    Participant

    Some areas are questionable. The Promised Land extends to the Euphrates and as far north as southern Turkey. However, no one considers them part of EY for settlement today. While some areas are definitely EY there is some connection to Jewish sovereignty. David considered himself to have made yerida when he went to Gat and the first Mishna in Gittin says that Acco was then considered the border.

    #866282
    hershi
    Member

    What are the borders of halachic Eretz Yisroel?

    (Shmitta, Maaser, Teruma, etc.)

    #866283
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    If the Israeli settlers are truly interested in settling in all parts of Eretz Yisroel, even if risking Jewish lives by doing so, why don’t they as well settle in Southern Lebanon — which is as much a part of Eretz Yisroel as Judea and Samaria?

    I don’t understand. You say “if they are truly interested…” as if you think there is really a different motivation, which explains why not southern lebanon.

    Well, let’s hear the other explanation.

    #866284
    shein
    Member

    Their motivation is Israeli sovereignty, which they don’t anticipate happening in the parts of Eretz Yisroel outside the State of Israel.

    #866285
    AinOhdMilvado
    Participant

    I think that both for the purpose of a more accurate translation, as well as for P.R. purposes, the term ‘settlers’ should be replaced.

    It is being used as a translation for the Hebrew ???????.

    The word ??????? would be better translated as ‘inheritors’.

    Aside from the fact that the word ‘settlers’ has taken on (though not true) the negative connotation of people settling on OTHER people’s land, the term ??????? or inheritors, gives the message that the people live there by right of legitimate inheritance.

    #866286
    AinOhdMilvado
    Participant

    Derech…

    B’ezrat HaSh-m, with bee’as HaMashiach, the day will be coming soon when we WILL be settling in (what is now called) Lebanon too!

    #866287
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    If the Israeli settlers are truly interested in settling in all parts of Eretz Yisroel

    If American Jews are truly interested in the mitzvah of pidyon shevuyim, why don’t they take up arms against the American government and storm the prisons where Jewish prisoners are kept?

    The Wolf

    #866288
    shein
    Member

    And (Trans-)Jordan and Syria too.

    #866289
    Loyal Jew
    Participant

    In 1982, the Zionist rabbi Tzefaniah Drori paskened exactly so, Southern Lebanon is EY and appropriate for Jews to settle in. It never got started because everyone knew the army wouldn’t allow it.

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