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President Donald John Trump has become only the second president in American history to serve two non-consecutive terms. This is the first time it has occurred in well over one hundred years. This four year pause has given President Trump and his team the ability to fully prepare and fine tune the many activities and actions that will fill his Administration’s agenda over the next four years, and especially the next two years (at least) that the Republican Party will have unified control of the United States federal government, in what promises to be the perhaps most powerful second term of any American president.
Ever since The Donald came down the golden escalator in Trump Tower in New York City in 2015, beginning The Trump Era of American history — an era now is set to last at least almost fifteen years through 2029, making President Trump a historical figure in American history — his numerous enemies, bent out of shape with what has become known as Trump Derangement Syndrome, have tried every ploy both conceivable and even what previously was inconceivable to attempt to utterly destroy Mr. Trump with every ounce of energy and (lack of) intellect they could muster. They stooped so low as to politicize the justice systems of both the federal government as well as those of several states they control the system in to attempt to first attempt to stop the democratic process of the United States and prevent President Trump from running for office (ironically by the party that calls itself “Democratic” but acting anti-democratically and with authoritarianism), by trying (and initially succeeding) to convince judges to take him off the electoral ballots; and when that tactic failed they then used their prosecutorial powers in Venezuela/Russia-style of political persecution, with open lawfare, by weaponizing the judiciary to keep President Trump out of office, irregardless of the will of the American People.
Despite all these years of severe and unprecedented harassment, starting from the lies of RussiaGate in 2017 through ending with the Democrats abuse of power in 2024, and despite the left’s nearly unfettered media control parroting their lies and falsehoods, a media including NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, NPR, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post and the numerous outlets that blindly follow Big Media’s propaganda spouting Democrat talking points and lying about Republicans and Trump (which in most other countries would collectively be described as “state controlled media”), President Trump — a true Oheiv Yisroel who clearly and absolutely had and has the Yad Hashem on his side — nevertheless overcame all these artificial man-made heavy obstacles to win re-election in 2024 for his second historic term, in the greatest political comeback in American history, eight years after he accomplished the greatest upset victory in American presidential election history in 2016, after he was counted out and written off by virtually every pundit — right until the last votes were still being cast.
Congratulations, Mr. President!
Facebook asked if I wanted to repost what I wrote on Jan. 20, 2017. I said then that “Trump has been president for almost an hour and so far, NO apocalypse. I guess those predictions were more examples of fake news from the left-leaning establishment media.” The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Trump has a minimal majority in the House, and barely one in the Senate., and will probably lose both in 2026. It may a major point in American history, or only a trivia contest question about non-consecutive terms. The only difference from eight years ago is that the Progressive (WOKE) wing of the Democrats is shattered and by 2028 the Democrats may be sane again (bad news for the Republicans), while it isn’t clear if the “RINOs” (basically Reagan/Tea Party Republicans) will stick with Trump. Decisive factors may be some of Trump’s foreign policies relating to allies such as NATO, and East Asian democracies, inflation, and whether to expel employed non-criminal aliens.
In year 2022 CE, I referred to Donald Trump as: “the once-and-future President”,
meaning that he was President in the past, and was destined to be President again.At that time, Donald Trump had not yet began his re-election efforts,
but I was still confident that he would become President again.**** I WAS RIGHT !! **** I WAS RIGHT !! **** I WAS RIGHT !! ****
**** HA HA HA !!!!! **** HA HA HA !!!!!! **** HA HA HA !!!!! ****
can you use CE?
I don’t want a historic presidency. I want a presidency that gets back to brass tacks and finds ways to get Congress to talk to each other so that real necessary change can be made, instead of renaming mountains and pardoning drug market kingpins.
@Square Root, you were right about something else you rant about, Donald Trump married four time and none of his wives are fat, but I noticed quite a number of actors who are short get married
@ujm Are you trying to make an equivalency with pardoning when the people responsible for the deaths of Officer Brian Sicknick and four others were pardoned by the current president?
I intensely dislike how frum Conservatives have turned into Trumpists. Where people get angry if you level the slightest criticism against President Trump and start foaming at the mouth calling you “leftist” and “liberal”.
I don’t like Trump. I think he will do more damage to this country than good. However, I do agree with his conservative leanings and I think he will be a far better president than Kamal or Biden.
“can you use CE?”
Ha, there’s another thread going on right now for this discussion…“instead of renaming mountains”
He actually un-renamed a mountain. Obama renamed it, and Trump undid it and put it back to the name we all grew up with. The Gulf of Mexico thing is just total shtusim, though.“and pardoning drug market kingpins.”
Are you seriously referring to Ross Ulbricht as a “drug market kingpin?” If Biden had been the one to pardon him, you would totally be on board to call his sentence an injustice. Now, the poor guy spent 12 years in jail, lost his ability to start a family, and gets to look forward to everyone hating him just because of the name of the president who happened to pardon him. Absolute insanity.“I intensely dislike how frum Conservatives have turned into Trumpists. Where people get angry if you level the slightest criticism against President Trump and start foaming at the mouth calling you “leftist” and “liberal”.”
I actually agree with this, in theory, but a lot of your posts on here have actually come across is just flat out liberal-leaning, and I don’t mean that in a combative way. Are you sure you haven’t just personally shifted politicly? I stopped identifying as a conservative as a result of these shifts, and I would recommend you think about it. How much sense does it make to identify as the “one REAL conservative in the room” while everyone else around you is doing it wrong? A lot of these democrat refugees that have recently become republicans say things like “I didn’t abandon the democratic party; they abandoned me.” Maybe consider the possibility that the same thing has happened to you in the other direction.“I do agree with his conservative leanings and I think he will be a far better president than Kamal or Biden.”
I bet if I asked you to think of 10 bad things to say about Trump and 10 to say about Biden, you would much more easily fill out the Trump list. Why are you so convinced he’s going to be better than Biden? The core criticism of Biden is that he was so senile he couldn’t even do anything. Isn’t that better than a president who has his wits about him enough to do plenty of terrible things?Ujm, those rioters were storming the Capitol intending to subvert the orderly transfer of power, and some threatened to hang Pence. The police were right to shoot!
and how do you like Trump demanding land from other countries?! (And no, he is not allowed to do it according to the Torah — look in Sanhedrin 59A).@ujm and @neville-chaimberlin-lo-mes You are both doing exactly what I was calling you out for. Just cheerleading for Trump. Defending every one of his mishegasim and hypocrisies.
@ujm How many people died because of the Silk Road gun and drug market? How many people would have died in DC on 1/6/2021 had the people Trump pardoned not rioted and invaded a federal building? And the murderer Biden pardoned had already finished his sentence for murder. All Biden did was release him from his drug charges a couple of years early. Hardly a good comparison.
@neville-chaimberlin-lo-mes If you want to be technical Mt. McKinley was referred to as Denali for longer that it was called Mt. McKinley and in Alaska, they hadn’t used the McKinley name for decades. Trump re-re-re-named it.I was actually cheering when DPR/Ulbricht got arrested a decade ago. He absolutely deserved a long long prison sentence. He ran a dark web drug, child exploitation, and gun market that did something on the order of several million dollars in business weekly. The bitcoin he made off of those illegal sales is worth billions today. How else would you describe him?
I am a tad liberal leaning, but I hate admitting to it because then everyone thinks I hate Israel, want mishkav zachar and related mental illnesses to be normalized, want communism in the US etc. I just think that a lot of what Trump is doing falls way outside the norms of conservative politics, yet people who are avowed Trumpists are bending over backwards to excuse him and shouting RINO to all who disagree.
Personally I think a lot of the “terrible things” the media is accusing Trump of trying to do aren’t really that bad. Oh boohoo, he’s taxing Chinese imports, we’ll have to pay more for consumer goods and increase manufacturing in the US. On the other hand, I think he gets way too full of himself to be a good president. He would rather tear the Constitution to shreds than accept the slightest dissent from his people and I find that scary. I think some of his cabinet appointments are terrible. Pete Hegeseth has no business running our military, for one.
Yserbius: First of all, I apologize for saying your prior posts have been left-leaning. I was confusing you with another poster.
“Just cheerleading for Trump.”
I said the Gulf of Mexico renaming was stupid and confided in you that I’ve been boxed out of the conservative side altogether due to my lack of support for Trump, but ok…“If you want to be technical Mt. McKinley was referred to as Denali for longer”
The natives are free to keep using their terms, but the European/American colonists renamed everything. It’s not worth opening the can of worms of reverting everything to their Native American names.“How many people died because of the Silk Road gun and drug market?”
The widely reported number is six, but so what? If six people die from drugs they purchased in a Wal Mart parking lot, did Wal Mart commit a crime? If people chose to buy drugs and have overdoses, they have nobody to blame but themselves.“He ran a dark web drug, child exploitation”
Child exploitation was forbidden on the Silk Road. If you’re going to say people did so anyway, you could say that about anything.“How else would you describe him?”
At best, a web designer, at worst a drug dealer. The actual drug dealers that used his site only got 3-4 years. Non-violent drug dealers don’t get multiple life sentences. It’s very Trumpist of you to think that all drug dealers should be treated like serial killers.“I am a tad liberal leaning, but I hate admitting to it”
You shouldn’t. Don’t alter the way you identify yourself just because the people around you are too immature to react to it without making crazy straw man arguments that you’re a communist.“I just think that a lot of what Trump is doing falls way outside the norms of conservative politics”
I would tend to agree, but why should we get a monopoly on the definition of conservatism? If conservatism in 2025 means Trumpism, then we need to stop identifying as conservatives rather than expecting everyone else to change to fit our norms.he also hired hitmen an alleged 5 times
NCLM- he facilitated those deaths (and ruined many, many other lives) the same way any other drug dealer does. would you say that someone who aided a suicide should go to jail? this is a much worse version of that
@neville-chaimberlin-lo-mes Good to see you’re being reasonable about the situation, but I have to disagree with you on some points. Trump has an enormous amounts of power, and right out of the gate he leverages said power to do what, exactly? Rename a mountain and free a drug dealer? I think his executive orders were a combination of “This makes sense and is in line with his campaign promises”, “This makes no sense and is questionable if it can be enforced”, and “This is just baffling”.
@ujm Knowingly trespassing in a very secure location with intent to do violence to very important people. I don’t think they “didn’t know it was restricted” since (A) it’s always restricted and (B) stupidity and ignorance is no excuse.DPR’s sentence was perfectly in line with what other people who made millions off of facilitating international drug, weapons, and child exploitation trade. (the other guy says there was no child exploitation on The Silk Road, but I seem to recall that they used codewords like “hard candy” while the moderators looked the other way).
Ujm, some of them were “on the front lines” fighting the police almost reaching the chamber of the proceedings. This is where she was shot.
Besides, the whole crowd were insurrectionists trying to take over the Capitol.Ujm, there was a crowd breaking in, fighting the police. There was pandemonium. Nobody knew how far the rioters were going to go. Some were calling for Pence to be hanged or were looking for Pelosi. She was a part of that crowd.
In fact, the police should have been tougher on them.“NCLM- he facilitated those deaths”
So did the employers of the people who bought the drugs and used the money from their paychecks. What’s your point?“would you say that someone who aided a suicide should go to jail?”
No. I would not say that the owner of a gun store should go to jail every time a customer uses one of the guns to shoot himself.“the same way any other drug dealer does”
Then let him have the same sentence as “any other drug dealer,” which again is not multiple life sentences. If the best you can come up with is to call him a drug dealer, then even within your shittah he should be pardoned. He already served 3 times the time of the drug dealers from his platform. Unless you think all non-violent drug dealers should be given life, but that is probably a much crazier stance than you think it is.“Rename a mountain and free a drug dealer?”
I’m not sure why you’re ignoring all the other things he did, but if I’m understanding correctly, you’re disappointed he didn’t do even more? You were wishing he would be more authoritarian, not less? As for those two particular issues, they were niche issues that were very big deals to a lot of people, myself included. Freeing Ross Ulbicht was one of the top issues if not THE top issue for people on the libertarian/anarchist spectrum (it was basically the slogan of the libertarian party). You can think all those people are dumb all you want, but they still have votes. As for Mt. McKinley, it’s totally in line with Trump’s whole shtick. Obama renamed it for political correctness, virtue-signaling reasons. That’s exactly the kind of thing Trump claims to want to roll back.“stupidity and ignorance is no excuse.”
It is when the basis of your argument is intent. I can see trespassing resulting in jail time, but not this much. The extent of it was unambiguously politically motivated. I genuinely don’t believe anyone truly thinks it was an attempt to violently overthrow the government. Don’t you think they would have brought some guns or bombs if they were going to do that rather than running around in cosplay holding up banners?“At its core, it wasn’t built for drug sales even though drug dealers latched onto it.”
To be fair to their side of the argument, I do think drug sales were always one of the intentions for the Silk Road. I don’t actually think that matters. If I put up a sign in my yard that said “if you deal drugs in my yard, I will not call the cops on you” I don’t think I should go to jail when people actually go ahead and do so; it’s not like I forced them to. People who hate Silk Road and people who love it have the same underlying reasoning: the potential to use the internet to circumvent government. The opponents are terrified of it for that reason. The proponents such as myself are giddy with excitement.ujm- dpr did it because he believed anything should be able to be bought and sold including drugs and fake ids
“I agree that the police should have been tougher on them, in general.”
Why?“Especially using any contemporary standard for police in the US to justifiably shoot to kill a person.”
Both liberals and conservatives are usually inconsistent about this. Liberals are usually the ones who actually care about police brutality, but suddenly when the target is conservative, they wish they had slaughtered more of them as comrade mdd implied (almost flat out said it). Conservatives, on the other hand, almost always occupy the position that “cops are always right…” Until the person getting brutalized was one of their own. I had hoped that this would make conservatives rethink their approach to police brutality, but unfortunately they have been all too content with being hypocritical.“dpr did it because he believed anything should be able to be bought and sold including drugs and fake ids”
There were actually rules on the Silk Road, but yes, victimless crimes like someone doing drugs in the comfort of his own home they condoned. Why not? How does it effect you personally so much that you feel the need to lock him up? If you’re worried about overdoses, let them die of overdoses. Let the problem regulate itself.Ujm, she was a part of the crowd trying to break in. It was in heat of the confrontation etc.
nclm- do you actually think your comparisons are valid. that was a bunch of strawmen
someone who knowingly sells guns to criminals and gives cyanide to the suicidal should go to jail.
he was responsible for much more trafficking than the average dealer and you didnt even try to address the five hitmen he hired
@ujm and @neville-chamberlain-lo-mes One of the several ways that lead the FBI to Ulricht/DPR was that the first mention of Silk Road on the internet were posts he made on drug forums talking about it being a good place to trade in drugs. It had a specific category for drugs which was the most popular filter on the site. If someone facilitates a drug trade between two people and takes a cut of the money, they are committing a crime. Which is what he did, thousands of times a week for several years. So if a drug dealer is convicted for five years for a single trade, I don’t think a near life sentence for someone like Ulricht is so unreasonale.
I dislike how Trump tried to leverage his authority in a very scary way right out of the gate and I think using that authority to pander to some ridiculous demands (no one in Alaska has called it “McKinley” for decades, the park is called Denali, it’s been Denali on park maps long before Obama) is dumb. I do like that he at least used some of it for his good promises, like enforcing illegal immigration. But then there are some very troubling bits, like the federal back to office mandate which was Elon Musk using his big money to settle a personal gripe. Which is probably unenforceable, because the unions are fighting it, and the offices don’t have the physical space for people.
Regarding the January 6th riot, the arrests were absolutely politically motivated. But that doesn’t change the fact that what these people did was 100% wrong and they all knew it. I can’t imagine a scenario where people violently push their way into the Capital literally screaming for blood that would result in a light sentence. They all deserved to get arrested, the only question is if their prison sentences should have been a little shorter.
“So if a drug dealer is convicted for five years for a single trade”
Where on earth did you get this? Nobody gets 5 years for one drug deal. Maybe in China…“the first mention of Silk Road on the internet were posts he made on drug forums”
Yes, drugs were always one of the purposes of the Silk Road, which I mentioned earlier.“nclm- do you actually think your comparisons are valid. that was a bunch of strawmen”
I only made the one about people using my yard to sell drugs. How is comparing an online platform to physical a “stawman?” The sane thing to legislate would be to always compare online crimes to a comparable physical one so that you have precedent. Your preference seems to be that we should just go l’chumra in the absence of direct precedent and give everyone life (or death) sentences for online crime because why not.“you didnt even try to address the five hitmen he hired”
Why should I? He wasn’t found guilty of it (or even tried for it I think), the agent who made the accusation WAS found guilty of corruption/impropriety, the alleged targets think it’s a ridiculous accusation and know that he didn’t do it. I don’t feel the need to address crazy conspiracy theories.“no one in Alaska has called it “McKinley” for decades,”
This is nonsense. All history/geography books, maps, globes, atlases, etc. had it as Mt. McKinley. Alaska is not some alternate universe that doesn’t use the same information as the continental US. Changing its name was no different that changing a sports team’s name from Indians to Guardians. Virtue signaling nonsense based on manufactured outrage.“But that doesn’t change the fact that what these people did was 100% wrong and they all knew it.”
Why did they know that? The country has sent very strong messages that this type of behavior is totally fine. How were they meant to know that it’s only okay when leftists do it? And, by the way, leftist rioters do a heck of a lot more damage than the January 6 crowd did.“the only question is if their prison sentences should have been a little shorter.”
A little? They basically had an impromptu Renaissance fair while trespassing. It should not have even been a felony.@neville-chaimberlin-lo-mes Ulricht facilitated thousands of sales of drugs and took a cut of each. That’s a felony. I’m not sure what the average sentence is for facilitating a single illegal drug deal, but I imagine that doing it thousands of times leads to a pretty hefty sentence.
Alaska, where Mt. McKinley is, has called it Denali for decades. So has the National Park Service, unofficially. Obama just made it official. Trump was just being ridiculous. Look I’m not going to argue as to what the mountain should be called, only that Trump making it a Top Priority to pointlessly rename it is ridiculous and makes me nervous for the next four years.
While I agree with you that the Democrats had spent most of 2020 telling people that riots and violence are fine way to express ones opinion, then acted all shocked when the Republicans decided to do it. However, the people rioting through the Capital (many caught on video saying they are planning to kidnap and/or murder) either knew %100 they were committing a crime, or have the IQ of a baby water buffalo.
actually the judge took into account the hitmen during sentencing
and they werent actually hitmen, they were just scamming him, so of course the targets would deny it
“actually the judge took into account the hitmen during sentencing”
If true, then I hope he takes civil/legal action against the judge. He/she doesn’t get to play jury.“Alaska, where Mt. McKinley is, has called it Denali for decades.”
You can keep saying it, and I’ll keep doubling down. This is a liberal media narrative. There is no way you’re going to get me to believe that they didn’t call it Mt. McKinley when that was how it was referred to in every book and map in existence. Even were this hypothetically true, it wouldn’t change the fact that the entire rest of the country knew it exclusively as Mt. McKinley, and it doesn’t change what Obama’s obvious motives were.What’s the name of the park that the largest mountain in the USA is in? I distinctly recall being in Alaska long before Obama was even in politics and being confused over the name since people kept pointing out Denali and it was only McKinley on a few official papers and stuff.
Still, of Trumps orders that one is more stupid and confusing rather than problematic. It’s a distraction to focus on that when he’s done so many more damaging things, from threatening to annex Greenland to handing the Department of Treasury over to that African American immigrant running DOGE.
Yserbius,
How are those things damaging?
It’s easy to throw out words when they don’t mean anything
The problem that I have with “The Donald” is what he’s doing with the illegals, I understand that those with a criminal record should be deported but to say everyone here is a criminal because they came here illegally is in essence true but that’s like arresting people for speeding or holding a phone while driving because they broke a law
@mbachur / coffee-addict Elon Musk is a brilliant, but mentally unstable opportunist who will happily burn this country to the ground if it means an extra million bucks in his pocket. He has been handed unprecedented access and control over the government and it’s terrifying. If you don’t think it’s a problem for the president to threaten military force to break multiple international treaties and take sovereign land because it has good resources, then I don’t know what I can possibly say to convince you otherwise.
“he’s done so many more damaging things, from threatening to annex Greenland to handing the Department of Treasury over to that African American immigrant running DOGE.“
“He has been handed unprecedented access and control over the government and it’s terrifying. If you don’t think it’s a problem for the president to threaten military force to break multiple international treaties and take sovereign land because it has good resources,“
Neither of those things has damaged America instead as we’ve seen with Canada and Mexico it has helped America and Elon musk has so far cut wasteful spending
Coffee addict, Hitler threatening to use military force against Chechoslovakia did not damage Germany either (at least, not in the short term).
“but that’s like arresting people for speeding or holding a phone while driving because they broke a law”
How? Relocating them to where they came from is literally just undoing the crime. They should feel lucky he isn’t taking actual punitive measures. The idea that they should be allowed to stay here definitively means you believe in open boarders. There’s no nafka mina between someone who says “there should be boarders and laws, but nothing should happen when someone breaks them” and someone who believes in open boarders aside from the fact that open-boarder proponents actually have to spine to say what they actually think unlike the spineless phony-conservatives and “moderates” making the first argument.“handing the Department of Treasury over to that African American immigrant running DOGE.”
Was this supposed to be some kind of ironic statement accusing Trumpists of being racist? Because it didn’t work. It just made you sound racist.“If you don’t think it’s a problem for the president to threaten military force to break multiple international treaties and take sovereign land because it has good resources”
This never happened. Nobody ever suggested militaristically invading Greenland. I’m against Trump’s statements about Greenland as well, but it’s stupid, fake-news comments like this that cause his supporters to double-down and convince themselves to believe in this nonsense.“it was only McKinley on a few official papers and stuff.”
This is nonsense, and unless you’re younger than 25 I don’t even see how you think you would get away with making this false assertion. Every map of the US, geography book, history book, trivia card asking about the tallest mountain, etc. had it as Mt. McKinley. That was its official name, more importantly that IS what people called it; I remember. The fact that some people wanted to be weird and call it by its Eskimo name is irrelevant.“The idea that they should be allowed to stay here definitively means you believe in open boarders“
Life isnt all or nothing, black and white
Would you agree to staying with a fee (somewhat like a ticket to the speeding driver)
If I believed in open borders that would mean that illegals that committed a crime wouldn’t be deported which is false
@neville-chaimberlin-lo-mes Trump has in multiple speeches threatened to use military force to take Greenland. The fact that he hasn’t acted on it yet doesn’t make it better.
In Alaska, the name McKinley was rarely used. Maps and guides all said Denali. It was only known as McKinley outside of the place where it actually is.
Do you seriously not have a problem with the amount of power that Elon Musk currently wields due to the fact that Trump seems to never want to say no to him and Congress has no interest in saying no to Trump?
Yserbius,
this seems like a collective version of the following effect: you earn $100, you remember it for a minute. You lose $100 and you are upset about it. Same here: we have 1,000s of unelected people spending billions of dollars and you are OK with that. Suddenly someone comes and cuts some of that spending and you are worrying. Did you worry before about what was done (or not done) under previous administrations? I’ve seen sometimes how they make these decisions, and it is a draw of luck: some are reasonable, and some are totally crazy, based on very limited thinking from one particular person, based on political leanings, etc. Just to make you feel a little more comfortable, I saw a quote from Musk that his madness has a system: he suggested to rescind regulations wholesale – and then see if some of them were actually useful, they’ll put them back.@always_ask_questions I have very little problem with thousands of middle management federal employees people government money. Even the “wasted” money is in American hands and gives jobs and money to people. A massive percentage of working people in Virginia, DC, and Maryland work for the federal government. Even if all they are doing is Assistant Manager to the Assistant Pencil Sharpener, it’s still a job and contributes to the economy. Do I wish it were more efficient? Sure I do. However, giving a single man unfettered access to make those decisions is extremely problematic. Musk currently has the ability to put over a million people out of jobs with no backup or recourse. Is that really what you want? Maybe the government should cut out the billions in aid to Israel, wouldn’t that be more efficient?
“Even the “wasted” money is in American hands and gives jobs and money to people.”
If you want to give free charity money to useless federal employees, go ahead, but don’t coerce me into doing so through taxes.“it’s still a job and contributes to the economy.”
No it doesn’t. It would be no different than just giving them a really big welfare check.“Musk currently has the ability to put over a million people out of jobs with no backup or recourse.”
It’s currently extremely hard to lay off federal employees, unfortunately. That’s why they’re using buyouts. If they fired them, the wrongful termination liability would end up costing more than letting them keep their useless jobs forever. These people are sitting pretty and do not deserve any sympathy. They have been stealing our money for years, and now get a handsome severance package.“Do you seriously not have a problem with the amount of power that Elon Musk currently wields”
If it were power he weilded against the people, then yeah. If his power is limited to eliminating the federal government, then I wouldn’t care if Hitler’s zombie was entrusted with that power. Shrinking the government is a good thing, and I couldn’t care less who does it.“Life isnt all or nothing, black and white”
Yeah, but this issue is. If you advocate for allowing illegal immigration, then you support open boarders. Allowing and not punishing are the same thing.“Would you agree to staying with a fee”
No, because if the fee is small enough that it’s worth it for them to just pay, then it’s not a deterrent. That would effectively just mean you can skip the whole immigration process and buy your way in, or maybe get in for free if you don’t get caught. If the fee was so high that it counteracted the fiscal advantages of living in the US and then some (eg. a 500K fee), then yeah fine, otherwise this would be completely pointless.This isn’t a moral question (i.e. how much punishment to they deserve). Deportation isn’t a punishment, it’s simply correcting the mistake. As far as feeling sympathy for the illegals, they knew what they were getting into. Also, half of them are otherwise criminals anyway so who cares.
YS, for some reasons, counties around DC are among the richest in the country … I am guessing you live in the area, so you might be partial to the good living your neighbors are having … A funny story: I was taking an uber from a DC airport to a meeting with the government. The driver looked like a smart guy and his car was a Tesla .. wow, I thought, being an uber driver in dc really pays. We were talking about low traffic in DC post-covid and I mentioned that this is because all gov workers are WFH under no supervision. He gave me a look: “be careful, you might be talking to one”. I kind of concluded, without solid proof, that this gov worker was double-billing by driving uber during office hours. No wonder he cold afford a tesla,
but more importantly – not only the gov people are often not efficient (this is business 101 from lack of competition and accountability), they are actually making decisions that affect all of us. I am not saying that Musk always knows better. I am just saying that he is making decisions in place of those people who were not good at making decisions. And they were doing them for decades. So, Americans collectively decided to see if things can be done in a different way.
And there are multiple recourses:
there will be elections in less than 2 years;
your state can pick up the services Musk is going to cancel;
you can take Musk’s offer of 8 months free salary – and hope to get it back after Musk is gone.
you can move to Israel or Canada or UK or Mexico;
Musk himself suggested a feedback loop: rescind all regulations and then see which ones were really needed
some Trump observers think that he is highly sensitive to feedback and that he quickly came to agreement with Mexico/Canada based on 2% market drop.at the end, your concern is about how much power we want to give to an executive so that he achieves something and how much freedom we’ll lose
See Shmuel’s gripes when he anoints a melech
See Roman republic that had all-powerful dictators with one year non-renewable term
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