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I’ll share mine. One time I check on the job she’s done on the kids’ room and I find in the crib a teddy bear laying like as if its a baby under the blankie and in its paws its holding one of the baby’s dirty stinky cheese making bottys which she should have put into the kitchen sink. ?????
Or how about the time when the whole playroom mess is in the center of the floor with mixed in nosh, and every small pieces of playmobile to blocks and I am basically trying to make an example of how to pick it apart, get garbage separate from the goods and she turns her back to me and goes for the doll house to clean and arrange the cute little doll house furniture and rearrange that.
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Or how about when I’ve told her many times we hang up dresses and skirts in closets but she keeps folding my skirts into tiny oregami type boxes of art and stuffing them one on top of the other into one drawer until you can barely open the drawer?
Either she is lazy, just doesnt care or is evil?
Please share your expereinces.
How ’bout the time she takes the kid to church with her while the parents are out.
Can’t wait to see how quickly this devolves into racisim and xenophobia.
But I guess when Eisav Soneh Es Yaakov is the prevailing attitude we can’t really expect much different.
Can’t wait to see how quickly this devolves into racisim and xenophobia.
But I guess when Eisav Soneh Es Yaakov is the prevailing attitude we can’t really expect much different.
I think the prevailing attitude is Yaakov Soneh Es Eisav. In all my years of employment I was never refered to as “The Jew”.
haha, and here i come in, expecting a medical discussion with a typo about thyroid glands!
How about the one who would sit and watch the dryer go round and round, and couldnt do anything else meanwhile because she was busy doing the laundry.
Are you sure, Dash?
Presonally, I think the cleaning help in Jewish homes have a good laugh at our expense when they go home. They are treated with kid gloves, paid far more than they are worth, and take major advantage of their employers.
@crisisofthweek You’re too late. It was racist and xenophobic from the word goyters.
Antisemitism certainly exists, but it is not the prevailing attitude.
I would disagree that the house cleaners and help are being paid a living wage. most are paid below minimum wage and asked to do things that no one else will do. They are paid off the books and take the job because it is the work they can get. I do not see it so well compared to other job.
I find the term Goy as bad as the terms I was called growing up in a town that had very few jews. There are terms that are just not acceptable and THE GOY is one of them, goyters is just worse. i do find it funny at all or clever.
Dash – I am right there with you. This is so offensive, can we close this thread please?!
haha, and here i come in, expecting a medical discussion with a typo about thyroid glands!
LOL, that is EXACTLY what I was going to reply!!!!!!!!!
I think the prevailing attitude is Yaakov Soneh Es Eisav. In all my years of employment I was never refered to as “The Jew”.
+1
Brooklineborn “most are paid below minimum wage”.
Minimum wage is $7.25, please tell me who you use for cheaper than that. I’ll even pay you a finders fee. Most charge almost double minimum wage.
BB: the minimum wage for most of us (federal, NY, NJ) is $7.25. If that were the prevailing wage for cleaning help, maybe I’d actually afford it. In my neighborhood it starts at 10. And off the books equals tax free (not even Fica). I don’t think home attendants make more, and they must go for training and have taxes deducted. Also, usually the employer provides lunch, dinner or both.
It’s definitely hard work, but don’t claim they are being mistreated. Most aren’t, or they simply “fire” their bosses (no resumes or even references to worry about)…
If your cleaning lady is philipino she wouldn’t constitute as Eisav.
When the prevailing attitude is eisav soneh l’yaacov….
Sounds highly condescending to me…. Can I just draw your attention to the origins of this ‘prevailing attitude.’ rashi, the little known commentary who’s every comma demands explanation, who’s punctilious attitude to his commentary means that every single word written was done so deliberately and with intention, quotes Reb Shimon bar yochai, the tanna who’s responsible for the prevalence of Torah today, the tanna who was supported miraculously by hashem himself, the tanna in who’s merit the world existed, as having said, LEHALACHA that eisav soneh l’yaacov. Regardless of your understanding of it, this is not merely some adage which is sprouted by the ‘ignorant Yeshivish people.’ Its fact, it is gospel truth. We may not appreciate it, we may have experience which conflict this Halacha but, when our experiences challenge rashi and rashbi’s opinions, we can safely decide which site to pick.
*which side to pick – stupid auto correct.
time to close this tread. sorry, arwsf.
“Goy” is Hebrew for “nation”. We are also a goy – a goy kadosh. “Gentile” comes from the Latin translation of “Goyim”(“Gentium”).”Ben/Bat Noach” or “Noahide” are also acceptable. “Sheigetz” and “Shiksa” are, however, very offensive as they come from “shaketz”.
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