Thank You President Trump!

Dear Half Sour Pickle:

Thank you for being an integral part of my hamburger sandwich. You may not be my first choice of a cold, crunchy addition to my burger (cole slaw and relish are far superior), but nonetheless, you’re not too bad. You shine brightly as a green slice of goodness surrounded by brown and red mush.

Please know, though you really don’t care what I think and I am actually an idiot who thinks that other people care about what I have say on the matter, that you are doing a great job. Keep it up.

Thank you, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, for being 100 times more reasonable than our President. See their recent twitter feeds. Orthodox Jewish conservative media personality Ben Schapiro — thank you as well for being a conservative voice of reason, even though you’ve been the target of so much anti-Semitism.

I would thank Trump for his nice statement denouncing the Klan, neo-Nazis and white nationalists, but the problem is that his statements before and after that statement have made him look like an alt-right white-supremacist-sympathizer.

The fact is, the Unite the Right rally was organized 100% by radical anti-Semitic, racist far-right extremist groups. It wasn’t organized by any “fine people” who are simply concerned about tearing down monuments because of a concern that it could lead to taking down monuments to slave-holding founding fathers like Jefferson.

By strongly implying that most people there were fine people, Trump is giving legitimacy to racists and anti-Semites, and everybody knows it.

The radical left is a real threat, but only far-rightists are likely to commit hate crimes or terrorism against us. We need to be very careful that people in power (like the President!) are not legitimizing them, and helping them recruit more people into their hateful ideologies. Rachmana litzlan.

1. Trump would do better with a bit of “derekh eretz”. But then again, he’s a reality show star and that’s not to be expected. Given that the “resistance” and “fake news media” (some of which YWN routinely aggregates from, it seems that in the USA, derekh eretz in public life has gone the way of typewriters, ice boxes and phones with dials.

2. Many of his policies may not be in our communities’ interests, though at least they aren’t as harmful as the increasingly fanatical secularism in the Democratic party. Plus, be definition, we are “deplorable” (clinging to religion and all that), and Trump is the last hope of the deplorables in the factg of a left-wing movement that would openly persecute us.

Re: but only far-rightists are likely to commit hate crimes or terrorism against us”

Actually the “left” is often involved only the authorities treat these as “normal ” crime, ignoring that the anti-Jewish attitudes that encourage them. And the Muslims are now considered “left” but anyone who object to their attacks on Jews is an “Islamaphobe.”

And if you work outside the Jewish community, you’ll discover that it isn’t the Christians who object to accommodating our religious practices, but the ultra-secular liberals (often Jews).

We are in this world to keep the Torah and getting killed by radical rightists would inhibit that.

Yidd23 -“We are in this world to keep the Torah and getting killed by radical rightists would inhibit that.”

The biggest problem in Golus, is not them killing us, but assimilation! (Western world)
Actually, the more they hate us openly – the less assimilation.

Sam2 -“It’s not an either/or choice. It’s possible to think that both are truly terrible”

Funny, that’s exactly what I heard from Pres. Trump.
But unfortunely, the Commy libs are trying their hardest to make him a fascist!

“he certainly was not referring the white supremacists as fine people.”

here is a rule of thumb: IF you are at a rally full Nazi/KKK guys an you stick around you are not a “fine person”

Its amazing how Almost everybody including both the ” Liberal media” and most mainstream Republican leaders such as senators, and even the alt right like David Duke managed to misunderstand him. But you were able to penetrate into his secret thoughts looking past his initial reluctance to condemn the Racists, his delayed condemnation and then walking it back the next day. Everybody but you and a handful of others realy get him.

You love quoting Rav Avigdor Miller. what was it he said about supporting a President who had the support of neo-nazis?

“He spoke the truth!”
Who spoke the truth and about what?

“This Rep. from Tennesee named Cohen wants to impeach Trump because of Charlottsville.”
Mazel tov

“Now why don’t you move there”
Mostly becasue my family is here.

” and take all your liberal Jews with you?!?”
this may surprise you, but Im not in charge of all the liberal JEws

“You could live in his district with all the black people”
All the black people live in this one district? interesting. Id love to hear some more of your theories

Joseph,

I hope you don’t have parents or grandparents who survived Hitler. There’s no way to defend your ridiculous attempts to defend a president who continuously panders to the alt-right anti-Semites. This protest was organized and arranged by the KKK and neo-Nazis. Many alt-right extremists declined an invitation to a rally where the people (the entire group): vJews will not replace us”. If a fine person was there then he or she was a counter-protestor or bystander who got mowed down by a ‘nice guy’.

Frum people voted for Trump despite his German heritage, his father’s participation in the KKK and his refusal to condemn David Duke. He joins t Democrats, his lifelong political home, and is Senator Byrd’s replacement in Washington. There’s no place for him in the Republican party or in the American society.

Its sad that the conservative movement – the one that promoted individual liberty and fiscal responsibility – was hijacked by an incompetent and racist clown. It is even more disheartening that Frum people voted for him and are blinded by his populist, uneducated mannerisms.

Joseph,

Its as fictitious as Barack Obama’s relationship with Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers and Rashid Khalidi.

The fact is that Fred participated in KKK rallies and there is a picture to prove it.

The fact is that Donald Trump continues to diss the Jews and pander to the alt-right.

Maybe Jared and Ivanka have a ‘heter’ to support an alt-right agenda. Maybe they and you are naive.

If you haven’t regretted your vote for Trump by now (whose presidency is turning out to be just like normal people predicted) them him shooting someone on fifth avenue won’t change it. That is why I called it disheartening.

Jason Kessler – the organizer of the event – graduated from the University of Virginia, and like most Trump suppprters, voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and once attended an Occupy Wall Street rally in Charlottesville. He believed in a conspiracy theory that “Jews escaped Nazi Germany in order to erode Western values”.

When white nationalists descended upon the historic Virginia city to protest the removal of a statue of Confederate general Robert E. Lee, their “Unite the Right” rally gathered a veritable who’s who of top neo-Nazis in the United States, including the former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke and alt-right leading light Richard Spencer, among others.

They immediately went after the Jews. At their Friday night rally at the University of Virginia, the white nationalists brandished torches and chanted anti-Semitic and Nazi slogans, including “blood and soil” (an English rendering of the Nazi “blut und boden”) and “Jews will not replace us” — all crafted to cast Jews as foreign interlopers who need to be expunged. The attendees proudly displayed giant swastikas and wore shirts emblazoned with quotes from Adolf Hitler. One banner read, “Jews are Satan’s children.”

“The truth is,” Duke told a large crowd Saturday, “the American media, and the American political system, and the American Federal Reserve, is dominated by a tiny minority: the Jewish Zionist cause.” Addressing another group, Richard Spencer mocked Charlottesville’s Jewish mayor, Mike Signer. “Little Mayor Signer – ‘See-ner’ – how do you pronounce this little creep’s name?” Spencer asked. The crowd responded by chanting, “Jew, Jew, Jew.” In TV interviews, attendees were not shy about their anti-Semitism.

Denver Post

I don’t follow the news enough to know all the details here, but I have followed the news enough to know anyone who still thinks anything they read really happened that way is a bit nuts.
Having said that, as someone who supported trump only because he wasn’t Hilary, I have no problem hearing people complain about him. But the posters here who are spewing against his stupidity and asinine COMMENTS, while extoling/having extolled the virtues of the former administration who LITERALLY FUNDED THE TERRORISTS responsible for the Barcelona attack and kissed terrorist leaders while pretending these car rammings were all random acts of psych ward runaways – you really are missing some serious cognitive pieces. own up or sit this one out. Playing both sides of the fence is just plain dishonest.

There’s nothing wrong with kissing terrorist leaders.

Love is love.

SL -“I don’t follow the news enough to know all the details here, but I have followed the news enough to know anyone who still thinks anything they read really happened that way is a bit nuts”

A voice of reason in a sea of insanity!

I see a strong parallel between the emotional fury sparked by specific trump supporters posts and by Joseph’s posts. As I touched on above, when people vehemently support something, they need to be honest as well.
You can support a person or cause with your very life blood, but when they are wrong, or err, you need to either be quiet, or be honest.

When an Obama supporter hates trump, nobody cares. But when they either 1) accuse trump of the same things Obama does and turn a blind eye to Obama/Clinton or 2) fail to acknowledge inappropriate acts or mistakes their leader does it ranckles. Same way (l’havdil) people who inappropriately defend Torah, they refuse to acknowledge legitimate concerns with mistakes communities or leaders made (I am NOT talking about being disrespectful to rabbonim ch”v), or more accurately, to say outright that there are no mistakes, or that any voice of dissent on indecent behavior is just anti Semitism, it ranckles in that same way.

But those two ‘camps’ who do that, are the biggest complainers about the other ‘camp’. It isn’t the cause, as much as it is the blindness, disingenuousness and dishonesty that flares the fury. If your cause is REALLY that worthy, (which Torah is) then support it honestly.

You can like someone, you can support a cause, and you must defend the Torah, but once you start lying for it, you have battuled it and your own credibility.

The President has an appearance to talk about rebuilding the infrastructure, so the trains aren’t falling apart, the roads aren’t crumbling, and people and goods can get around. The Press, always finding their political slant more important than American people, start yelling at the president questions about the “confederacy”! The President calls people with helmets and clubs being bused in as thugs, and pointed out that at least the original group had a PERMIT and were legally and constitutionally allowed to be there. However small that group is, I don’t care. I don’t follow alt-radical message boards of any persuasion. I didn’t follow the lead-up to the riot. I am not on leftist email lists or craigslists ads. The press missed the points about law and order, aka the rule of law, peace, and not glorifying violence. The same press that has called every riot, every car burning, every cop injured as “peaceful protests” for years. Now I see that, somehow, Trump is the bad guy, as framed by “journ-o-lists” (recall the email list of journolists who made it their mission to put Obama in a good light in all articles) who care more about party than principle.

So lets go see the alternative. Was it better with Hillary who had conferences with thugs and rioters and couldn’t go a speech without going on about race and prisons, not roads, schools nor jobs? Bernie who allows the thugs to rush him off stage and steal his microphone? Except he seems quick to single out one nation in the world for his ire! Or, I know, Kaisich, who goes to a matzo factory and teaches the staff there about whats really in the Bible! Maybe we can bring back Obama, and have the Muslim Brotherhood back in the whitehouse, blame the recent attack in Spain on Israelis living in apartments, while calling them just “random folks” that were not at all targeted for being in a kosher establishment. Remember Paris. Yea, let’s for the that tired old nonsense again.

The ease of this anti-Trump brainwashing, anti-any-Republican really, but especially anti-Trump over such nonsense is really enlightening about how things in history so easily occurs. Maybe I sinned myself here, but I didn’t mention anything that used 12 “anonymous” sources like the articles about Trump does. Record amount of leaks per day is happening I read. And PS. this has gone so over the line I created an account to post.

Let’s all vote for Cruz

Definitions have changed how?