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February 24, 2009 4:06 am at 4:06 am #589462chunchieMember
Do you think it’s tzniusdig for teens to be speaking / texting on cell phones on the street?
February 24, 2009 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #947325teenMemberyes 😛
in fact it is so commonm for teens to be doing this it would bring attention if teens didnt do it…isnt that what tznius means? not attracting attention?
February 24, 2009 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #947326squeakParticipantIs it tsniusdig to cross the street when you’re not at a crosswalk? Is it tsniusdig to get out of your car in a traffic jam to see how much further the backup continues? Is it tsniusdig to stand up on a train if all the seats are taken, or should you not get on the train?
February 24, 2009 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #947327DebbyMembercommon squeak i’m sure you know the answers, if it a teen does something that’s normal & expected then where is there a question of it being un tznisdug?!?!?!
Chunchie: it’s ok to talk bit not loudly, & be carefull when you text watch where you walk & make sure not to bump into ppl. cuz then it would be untznisdug!
Are ppl. really that bored her that you come up with the weirdest questions??????
February 24, 2009 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #947328SJSinNYCMemberI’m not sure why a teen is different from an adult. Can someone elucidate?
February 24, 2009 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #947329cantoresqMemberIs it is tznius to talk to someone in the street? Why is using a phone any different?
February 24, 2009 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #947330gavra_at_workParticipantMrs. chunchie: (can’t imagine you’re a guy asking this)
Do you really mean “Tznius” or “appropriate” may be a better question.
Just because its “Tznius” doesn’t mean it should be done.
February 25, 2009 12:38 am at 12:38 am #947331JosephParticipantI think chunchie’s question is more general than teens – i.e. if it is tzniusdik for women to be blabbing on a cell (or off a cell) in the street.
In Oz Vehadar it says girls should not converse loud (or congregate) in the street, as it isn’t proper tznius to do so.
February 25, 2009 2:32 am at 2:32 am #947332goody613Memberthere was astory wherea rav called off a shiduch with a very good bachur b/c he was talking to his friend across the street even if it was nothing bad he said it’s not tzniusdig
February 25, 2009 2:47 am at 2:47 am #947333anonymrsParticipantwhy is it any more appropriate for a boy/man to talk loudly on the phone or to text than it is for a girl/woman?
February 25, 2009 4:12 am at 4:12 am #947334JosephParticipantanonymrs, both are inappropriate (loud talking on the street), yet its worse by a girl for tznius purposes.
February 25, 2009 11:31 am at 11:31 am #947336SJSinNYCMemberWhat about the fact that many streets are noisy and you need to talk loudly?
I actually wish we could get rid of cellphones. I’m tired of everyone thinking they can reach me all the time(is my house phone or work phone not good enough?)
February 25, 2009 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #947337shindyMemberI think by now people are used to seeing others on their cell phones and it doesn’t draw attention to the woman. What draws my attention is when someone is walking around talking to themselves but it’s really to a blue tooth. I guess I’ll get used to it too!
February 25, 2009 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #947338chillmasterMemberim live in bk and its hard to admit it…… and society basicly decides what is considerd acceptable forexample jeans, skirt lenght, and all that kinda stuff….
a cell phone today is the norm for anyone in highschool when all you 40 year olds were grownig up they didnt even have plastic cups!!!!! so get with the program and change with the times
we have blackberrys microwaves airplanes and laptops these days its all normal get used to it!!!!
February 25, 2009 9:26 pm at 9:26 pm #947339moish01Memberchillmaster is raising suspicions. all those !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 25, 2009 9:31 pm at 9:31 pm #947340teenMemberchillmaster: i agree
moish01: what do u mean?
February 25, 2009 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #947341moish01Memberwho’s trademark is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
February 25, 2009 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #947342anonymisssParticipantwe have blackberrys microwaves airplanes and laptops these days its all normal get used to it!!!!
Can’t be, it’s not enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is more like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~a~
February 25, 2009 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #947343chillmasterMemberhey ppl dont be hatin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 25, 2009 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm #947344an open bookParticipantha ha anonymisss ur rite!
but now it seems (s)he caught on!!!
February 25, 2009 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm #947345anonymisssParticipantchillmaster, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is someone’s signature. If you’re looking for one of your own, qwerty and I will gladly assist you.
~a~
February 25, 2009 11:37 pm at 11:37 pm #94734722OldGoldParticipantWhat’s the difference if someone talks on a phone in the street? Is it any different if they’re talking to thier friend that’s standing next to them? Why wouldn’t that be appropiate or Tznius? Many adults talk on the phone on the street, what’s the dif?
February 26, 2009 12:01 am at 12:01 am #947348WolfishMusingsParticipantI think the question is going after the wrong target. I think a better question would be “Is talking on a cellphone in the middle of the street proper and/or polite?” It’s not really a tznius issue.
The Wolf
February 26, 2009 12:38 am at 12:38 am #947349JosephParticipantIf something is loud and attention drawing, it lacks tznius.
February 26, 2009 5:15 am at 5:15 am #947351qwertyuiopMemberanonymisss: how about this…
^^chill^^
joseph suggested just the ^^ awhile back.$
so, for example chillmaster’s post would look something like this…
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
^^chill^^
February 26, 2009 5:58 am at 5:58 am #947354kapustaParticipantjoseph whats your opinion on a post in bold lettering? jk
February 26, 2009 6:21 am at 6:21 am #947355baal kishronParticipanti think it lacks tznius cause it draws attention 😉
February 26, 2009 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #947357chillmasterMemberhey ill try it
^^chil^^
it doesnt have the same feel!!!!
February 26, 2009 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #947358NobodyMemberTalking on a cell phone in the street is one thing, yelling down the phone for all and sundry to hear is another. It’s all relative to the teen/person in question, where they are when talking and what it’s all about.
To merely screech gossip at the top of one’s voice is not be acceptable for anyone, even teens! but to chat these days is more or less acceptable
February 26, 2009 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #947359anonymisssParticipant**chill**
you like?
~a~
February 27, 2009 5:47 am at 5:47 am #947360qwertyuiopMemberchillmaster: you haved to do bold and italics, i’ll teach you how:
for bold: <x>your post</x> (replace x’s with strong)
for italics: <x>your post</x> (replace x’s with em)
for bold and italics: <x><x>your post</x></x> (replace first and last x with strong, and the other x’s with em)
good luck!!$
anonymiss: not bad.$
April 19, 2013 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #947361AriellahParticipanti agree it’s not tznius seeing teens texting on the streets.
April 19, 2013 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #947362VogueMemberI don’t get it. Its completely normal. As long as you are being safe.
April 19, 2013 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #947363David Bar-MagenMemberPeople bump the weirdest things. I’d forgotten this existed.
April 19, 2013 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #947364superstarMemberI think texting and walking has gotten out of hand these days. Twice already someone almost bumped into me because they were so engrossed in their thumbs.
April 20, 2013 11:57 am at 11:57 am #947365no longer need seminaryMemberyes. its tznius. is it practical? thats another question.
April 21, 2013 10:58 am at 10:58 am #947366MorahRachMemberI’m glad that with terrorists, and bombings, and other majorly important issues going on in our country, this is what is on your mind. How about if YOU don’t think it’s Tsnius, you don’t do it?
April 21, 2013 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #947367☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWould you say that we should leave boys who smoke alone because there are worse things in the world?
If it’s not tzniusdig, it’s not tzniudig. (I happen to not think it’s untzniusdig, but I still don’t think it’s smart.)
Things aren’t ok just because there are worse things.
April 21, 2013 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #947368ToiParticipantDY- im gonna stick to my guns on this one. if the only thing my children do wrong is smoke, ill be an incredibly proud parent.
April 21, 2013 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #947369☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantToi, long time no see – I’m not getting into that. It wasn’t my point. I was giving an example which a female poster can appreciate, likely l’shitasah.
Anyhow, should we ignore it if a guy has guns, just because there are worse things? What about smoking guns?
April 21, 2013 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm #947370ToiParticipantDY- i know. id prefer my daughter marry a guy w/ a gun. he can save her from crazies.
April 22, 2013 11:18 am at 11:18 am #947371MorahRachMemberDY, I don’t understand your post. You are equating someone who smokes to someone who talks on a cell phone? So you would turn down a shidduch for your son of you heard the girl has a cell phone? Good luck finding a shidduch.
Also, I am quite the pro gun morah. So that example doesn’t make sense to me either!
April 22, 2013 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm #947372☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantDY, I don’t understand your post.
That’s correct.
You are equating someone who smokes to someone who talks on a cell phone?
No
So you would turn down a shidduch for your son of you heard the girl has a cell phone?
No
Good luck finding a shidduch.
Thank you.
Also, I am quite the pro gun morah.
I’ll bet those kids never talk without raising their hands!
See, my point wasn’t about guns, about smoking, or about cell phones. My point is about dismissing possibly important issues just because there are more important issues.
April 22, 2013 1:36 pm at 1:36 pm #947373zahavasdadParticipantIts funny how people always talk about how Culas lead to OTD’s but never say chumras lead to OTD-ness
April 22, 2013 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #947374popa_bar_abbaParticipantIts funny how people always talk about how Culas lead to OTD’s but never say chumras lead to OTD-ness
Sorry, your post is nonsense. The people who say that indeed do think that kulas lead to OTD, and that chumras have the exact opposite reaction. There is no inconsistency in that theory.
Although, I happen to think that neither leads to OTD. Depending on how you define kulah. If you define kulah as not keeping normative halacha, then yes, teaching your kids to not keep normative halacha means you are OTD and your kids are probably the same as you.
April 22, 2013 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #947375zahavasdadParticipantThis whole cell phone converstion is not Halacha, its a chumra.
Its not inconsisant at all to say that too many chumras lead poeople over the edge, It clearly says you are not to veer from the torah from the left or the RIGHT
April 22, 2013 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #947376popa_bar_abbaParticipantIts not inconsisant at all to say that too many chumras lead poeople over the edge, It clearly says you are not to veer from the torah from the left or the RIGHT
If you think that means that it is assur to do chumras, you are very mistaken. The gemara is full of chumras that it discusses amoraim doing, and does so with admiration usually. (with exceptions like Rabi Tarfon who did like Beis Shammai)
Why just in a few day’s ago’s daf we had the story of the tannaim on the boat who were machmir against the halacha for techum shabbos.
April 22, 2013 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #947377NaftushMemberAm I wrong to propose that talking on a cellphone cannot be defined as tsanua or otherwise, but that it depends on how it’s done: politely and safely, or the opposite?
April 22, 2013 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #947378☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAm I wrong to propose that talking on a cellphone cannot be defined as tsanua or otherwise, but that it depends on how it’s done: politely and safely, or the opposite?
Not in my opinion.
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