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April 29, 2010 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #591610boredstiffParticipant
As most of you already know,police are becoming much more strict with talking/texting while driving. last night someone got a ticket for looking something up in his planner on his cell- he wasnt even talkig!!
let me ask you- what is worse, holding a cell phone in your hand, or having a dog on your lap while driving?!? dogs can be much more distracting, they walk all over the car, why is that allowed while holding a phone is not?
April 29, 2010 3:44 pm at 3:44 pm #683908WolfishMusingsParticipantlet me ask you- what is worse, holding a cell phone in your hand, or having a dog on your lap while driving?!?
Does it matter? Each “infraction” should be judged on it’s own merits, not based on how it relates to other offenses. Just because driving with your dog on your lap is legal doesn’t mean that looking at your cell phone while driving should be legal. Perhaps they should *both* be illegal — and the only reason dog lapping while driving hasn’t been banned yet is because there aren’t enough incidences of it to warrant serious attention.
The Wolf
April 29, 2010 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #683909boredstiffParticipantI didnt mean to say talking should be legal, but there should also be laws regarding dogs in cars.
why do they have to wait until there is ‘enough incidences’for it to be brought to their attention? why not do something about it now, when they are so worried about the safety of drivers.
April 29, 2010 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #683910WolfishMusingsParticipantwhy do they have to wait until there is ‘enough incidences’for it to be brought to their attention?
Because how are they supposed to address a problem before they know it is one?
The Wolf
April 29, 2010 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #683911ZachKessinMemberJust remember one things, when you are driving a car your first responability is to drive the car Everything else is second.
April 29, 2010 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #683912WolfishMusingsParticipantJust remember one things, when you are driving a car your first responability is to drive the car Everything else is second.
Is it? Oh darn. I thought the first responsibility was to figure out if the car is driving down the road or if the car is stationary and the road is passing underneath. 🙂
The Wolf
(For those who don’t get my weird sense of humor — see this thread: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/physics-realativity )
April 29, 2010 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #683913YW Moderator-80MemberI got it without the link.
April 29, 2010 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #683914WolfishMusingsParticipantI know, but that’s because you were involved in the discussion. Not everyone reading this thread was. 🙂
The Wolf
April 29, 2010 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #683915YW Moderator-80Membertrue
April 29, 2010 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #683916ZachKessinMemberIt has been suggested that you could argue your way out of running a red light by saying that due to the dopler shift it looked green. Of course you may then get a speeding ticket for doing .66 the speed of light. 😉
April 29, 2010 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm #683917anon for thisParticipantIf we’re posting physics driving jokes, it would be neglectful to omit the one about the time Werner Heisenberg was speeding & was stopped by a cop. The cop asked, “Do you know how fast you’re driving?” Heisenberg replies, “No, but I know exactly where I am.”
April 29, 2010 9:04 pm at 9:04 pm #683918YW Moderator-80MemberVery, very funny!
April 29, 2010 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #683919d aMemberboredstiff, was your obsession with dogs in cars? Did you have an incident or something? You started this thread as “Talking While Driving” but then you went on talking about puppy lapping. Why didn’t you title the thread “Dog Driving” or something?
April 29, 2010 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #683920dvorakMemberboredstiff- 2 points: If dogs in cars are so much of a problem, what about babies in cars? That can be distracting too. Should we stop allowing people to drive around with babies?
Also (and this is the real issue) I have never heard of any problems with dogs, and if there are, the evidence seems anecdotal at best. Cell phones (talking, texting, using in any other way) have been PROVEN to be at least as dangerous as driving drunk. There have been numerous studies done on this, including one that showed that the reaction time and reflexes of someone using a phone are as impaired as those of someone whose BAC is just over the legal limit. It has been demonstrated again and again: DON’T USE YOUR PHONE WHILE DRIVING. If you absolutely MUST take that call/text/check the planner etc, and for some reason it just can’t wait until you get to where you’re going, PULL OVER. It’s so simple, and it’s just not worth the risk of injury or death (c’v) for yourself or others.
April 29, 2010 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm #683921I can only tryMember(the following was copied from a different and earlier thread)
This morning I witnessed a woman getting struck from behind and knocked down by an SUV.
She was walking in the street with her back to traffic.
The SUV driver was talking on his cell phone while driving.
April 30, 2010 1:35 am at 1:35 am #683922d aMemberI can only try: Your post sounded suspiciously familiar. (I didn’t notice your last line)
Here’s the thread that I can only try was referring to:
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/walking-in-the-street-stay-safe
and by the way, “this morning” was two months ago!
April 30, 2010 1:55 am at 1:55 am #683923I can only tryMemberd a-
Good point. To avoid confusion, I should’ve put “(the following was copied from a different thread)” at the beginning of the post.
April 30, 2010 11:02 am at 11:02 am #683924I can only tryMemberThank you for the edit.
April 30, 2010 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #683925cherrybimParticipant“Let me ask you- what is worse, holding a cell phone in your hand, or having a dog on your lap while driving?!? Dogs can be much more distracting, they walk all over the car, why is that allowed while holding a phone is not?”
Boredstiff, you should give people the benefit of the doubt, be “dun l’caf z’chus”; the driver may be holding a Seeing Eye Dog.
April 30, 2010 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #683926boredstiffParticipanthow many times have u seen dogs on the lap of the driver and their heads out the drivers window??
zachkessin-ur first responability is driving the car?!how are u supposed to drive with a dog on ur lap?!
why are babies in the car distracting? they’re not walking around the car- in the front seat as well!!babies are in car seats, dogs are not!!
da- sorry, maybe this thread should be switched to ‘dog driving’.
April 30, 2010 4:18 pm at 4:18 pm #683927WolfishMusingsParticipanthow many times have u seen dogs on the lap of the driver and their heads out the drivers window??
While the car was in motion? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it.
zachkessin-ur first responability is driving the car?!how are u supposed to drive with a dog on ur lap?!
He wasn’t disagreeing with you – he was saying that a driver shouldn’t be so distracted that s/he can’t concentrate on the act of driving — regardless of the source of distraction.
The Wolf
April 30, 2010 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #683928d aMembercherrybim, is that why there is braille on the toll booths? On the DRIVERS side?
May 2, 2010 2:58 am at 2:58 am #683929amichaiParticipantnever, never, never, speak on your phone or hold your adorable puppy on your lap when driving. when will we learn??
May 2, 2010 5:32 am at 5:32 am #683930yankdownunderMemberThanks amichai- You are right when will we learn that driving a vehicle is a privilege not an entitled right of age. What I mean is one needs follow the rules of the road, as well as not putting passangers human or animal in danger by not being focussed on the road as well as the other vehicles that are in proximity to your vehicle.
May 2, 2010 7:26 am at 7:26 am #683931dvorakMemberboredstiff- either you don’t have kids or you’ve never had to drive your baby somewhere alone. Babies may not be walking around the car, but they can shriek pretty loudly, even to the point where you need to pull over. It can be tempting also to turn around and look at them in that situation. Accidents have happened where a driver was paying too much attention to the kid and not enough to the road.
May 2, 2010 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #683932HealthParticipantIf the dog is moving around it should be illegal, if the kid is moving around it should be illegal. (I’ve seen many frum drivers with kids on their laps or jumping around.) Sorry, but a kid screaming from their car seat shouldn’t be illegal, because like you said if it becomes a distraction the driver would pull over!
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