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    streekgeek
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    There is someone I am very close with who is officially the nicest person in the world. Seriously, she would give the shirt off her back if there was the need. Thing is, she can’t say no to anyone and people are really starting to take advantage of her. Also, she can not keep to her commitments with family and friends because someone else needs her desperately so how can she say no? I’ve watched this problem become worse and worse. It seems that she feels that when she gives to others, others will like her more, sort of like a self esteem problem. So in a way she’s being selfish by being selfless. I tried bringing it up with her more than once but nothing. She says “If I don’t do it, then who will?”, which is nice and all, but at whose expense??? It’s really beginning to kill her… How do I bring this up in a way she will listen?

    #987032
    Torah613Torah
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    You’re her friend, not her psychologist. I feel you should try to learn from her to be less selfish and be a real friend to her rather than yet another person who takes from her.

    #987033
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    streekgeek- I used to be like that in a sense. Someone told me that “im ein ani li mi li” means that if I don’t stand up for myself, then no one else will. Others can worry about themselves.

    #987034
    oomis
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    There is a difference between being a baalas chessed, and being a shmattah. The shmattah is only perceived as good as its last good job. You can do something 1,000 times for someone, but if the 1,001st time you say no, all the good you did is forgotten quickly.

    There is such a thing as being good to a fault. If your friend is neglecting her family in order to do these things for other people, her priorities need to be reassessed. Quickly.

    #987035
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Been there, done that. I think she will have to learn the hard way. But you are right that a lot of it comes from a need to be needed so instead of telling her what she is doing is wrong (tho it is), tell her how wonderful she is.

    #987036
    Shopping613 🌠
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    Trust me, one day she’ll get a problem sge can’t handle…i guess she’ll havta to learn the hard way…

    #987037
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    She says “If I don’t do it, then who will?”

    Tell her that this is most true when it comes to her own family.

    #987038
    streekgeek
    Participant

    “If your friend is neglecting her family in order to do these things for other people, her priorities need to be reassessed. Quickly. “

    Yes, she is messing up on her priorities. I know this cuz she’s my sister. While we’re really close, and I understand her “need to be needed”, I can not for the life of mine get her settled down. And I’m watching her niceness slowly kill her and it’s killing me too. People are really taking advantage of her, and she has so many people pulling her from all directions it makes me sick to watch. She literally bends over backwards to anyone who calls her name. While it is admirable and all, she doesn’t know where to toe the line. I don’t want her to learn the hard way!! I want to help her now before her life screws up.

    #987039
    SaysMe
    Member

    buy her the book Real Power

    #987040
    WIY
    Member

    streekgeek

    If she wont listen to you maybe your parents or a teacher should speak to her.

    #987042
    SaysMe
    Member

    by dr. Dovid Lieberman. Or buy it for yourself, and conveniently leave it lying around 🙂

    #987043

    I know someone who once said:

    I’m not mean, I just know how to say no.

    #987044
    streekgeek
    Participant

    Or buy it for yourself, and conveniently leave it lying around 🙂

    Thanks SaysMe. I’ll look in to it.

    ClickVeg – Maybe I should set that as the banner on her phone. That ought to make a statement. Oh the joys of having sisters 🙂

    #987045
    SanityIsOverrated
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    If it’s a self- esteem issue, find ways to boost her self esteem. There are probably books out there to help raising the self esteem so she can put her needs first, and feel good about it.

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