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November 15, 2018 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #1624691LoshenhoraParticipant
In South Africa at a zionist school 2
Fifteen year olds “took a knee”
The school first condemned the
action, then withdrew.
What is the world coming to next
Freedom of speech in schools will
include shouting out the answers
in exams,demonstrating one
Is dissatisfied with the syllabus
How mad have we become?November 15, 2018 8:26 pm at 8:26 pm #1624822LoshenhoraParticipantSorry it was during Hatikvah in a
Ultra zionist schoolNovember 15, 2018 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #1624830LoshenhoraParticipantSorry it was during Hatikvah in
An ultra zionist schoolNovember 15, 2018 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #1624843Neville ChaimBerlinParticipantNot sure we’re getting all the details. When frum yidden end up having to go to zionist schools because they’re forced to based on where they live, I think it’s pretty common to avoid taking part in the religious-Zionist activities.
Were they doing it for religious reasons or political reasons to be like the NFL players?
November 15, 2018 9:28 pm at 9:28 pm #1624861LoshenhoraParticipantThey were doing it for political
reasons
However when a parent chooses a
School they and the children have
To respect the ethos
Or moveNovember 16, 2018 11:13 am at 11:13 am #1625073👑RebYidd23ParticipantWhy should they not have freedom of speech, other than the slippery slope argument?
November 16, 2018 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm #1625091MrSarahLevine613ParticipantBecause we often “forfeit” our freedom of speech or bargain it away. When we work in a company — “freedom of speech” is not protected – not only because obviously the “freedom of speech” is protected (as you stated) only from governmental action — but because we make a deal with the employer. I will give you a job and you will not do anything that i believe is against the interests of the company. (Some states do protect employers from being fired because of the employee’s particular views). When you go to a yeshivshe school — you agree to wear a jacket or hat or stockings or flats. You are giving up this “right” in order to gain admission to the school. A student has (and rightfully so — very few “rights” in school).
November 16, 2018 1:48 pm at 1:48 pm #1625122👑RebYidd23ParticipantSchool is mandatory.
November 17, 2018 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #1625145ToiParticipantYou guys are making a very misinformed hanocho. There is no such idea as free speech being a right, like an actual right, outside of the US where it’s a part of the constitution. In europe, the UK, canada, south africa,etc. there is no such “right” enshrined by law. So this whole thread is dumb, because who gave them the right to take a knee where freedom of speech/expression doesn’t exist?
November 17, 2018 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #1625198👑RebYidd23ParticipantLegal rights are not the same as natural rights.
November 17, 2018 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #1625201LoshenhoraParticipantWhen one belongs to a mosque
and reads aloud from the Torah
They would be ejected forthwith
No freedom of speech or
religion
Same goes in a shul reading
the koran
Pray tell where is the freedom
Fact is there are limits
Join a club you sign up for an ethosNovember 17, 2018 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm #1625223👑RebYidd23ParticipantDid they join a club?
November 18, 2018 12:59 am at 12:59 am #1625250LoshenhoraParticipantAbsolutely they joined a club
They ask about your allegiances
To Zionism at interview
It’s not called hertzliya for nothingNovember 18, 2018 9:31 am at 9:31 am #1625355👑RebYidd23ParticipantMaybe their parents put them in a club.
November 18, 2018 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #1625669apushatayidParticipantThe Torah is not a bill of rights.
November 19, 2018 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #1626148LoshenhoraParticipantThe Torah is a bill of
rights and wrongsNovember 19, 2018 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #1626187👑RebYidd23ParticipantWhy do you start a new line
in seemingly
random places
within a sentence
or paragraph?November 19, 2018 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #1626221WinnieThePoohParticipantRebYidd, he must have had the same English teacher as It Is Time for the Truth
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