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We said long tachanun today for the first time in over a month. It was very inspiring. Sometimes we need a break from something for a while in order to realize how special it is.
I try to always go to a bris on yom haatzmaut. It reminds me that despite the zionists, Hashem still has a bris with us.
Would you have said long tachanun even if it fell out on Wednesday?
Reportedly, the Chazon Ish said tachanun even when there was a bris, l’hotzi milibom.
We said Hallel today for the first time since Rosh Chodesh. It was very inspiring.
I had heard that too, DY.
It made me curious.
Do you know from a reliable source that it’s true?
Thanks DY.
So it’s true.
the Chazon Ish said tachanun He also was exceedingly adamant that every eligible voter must vote at Israeli Elections, unlike some other influence-rs.
I will resume Tachanun after Yom ha’Atzmaut, and re-suspend Tachanun come Yom Yerusholayim. But just for the record:- Both Tachanun & Hallel come from the very same book of Tehillim, 1 being Chapter 6, and the other being chapters 113-118.
Did Ben Gurion say tachanun?
Glad you got to say it. I’ll have to wait a few more days.
We recite Tachnun only once this week, and at that:- Long Tachnun, but no short Tachnun this week. Sunday & Tuesday mornings, we utilize the same book of Tehillim, but reciting Hallel instead of Tachnun.
the shul i davened in actually didn’t say tachnun on monday either
shmuel hanavi’s yahrtzeit
addtionally the reason we don’t say tachnun on beis sivan is because it’s in between rosh chodesh and shlosha yimei hagbalah
therefore one shouldn’t say tachnun on erev rosh chodesh, it’s in between yom yerushalayim and rosh chodesh
ca: Some wonder about that, actually. I don’t think anyone doesn’t say it but it’s discussed by the DL Poskim.
well the shul i davened in didnt
ca: ????? isn’t said on ?’ ???? because hashem told moshe to prepare ??? ????? for ??? ????.
sdd,
why would that be a reason not to say tachnun?
the gemara in taanis brings up this reason as days not to fast
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14165&st=&pgnum=199&hilite=
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Where’s your gimara in taanis?
Tachanun is resuming tomorrow Wednesday morning Sivvon 9th. … Actually it shall be the 1st regular Tachnun since Friday morning Iyyor 26th, since last week Tachnun was only recited once on Monday morning Iyyor 29th, and that was the long Tachnun, Sunday being Yom Yerusholayim, and Monday afternoon thru today, being Rosh Chodesh followed by Yom haMeyuchos followed by Shelosho Yemai Hagbolo followed by Schowu’os followed by Isru Chag, but tomorrow morning the party is over, and other than Shabbos & Rosh Chodesh, no more omission of Tachnun until Assoro b’Ov followed by Tu b’Ov.
sdd,
i going to need to look it up in an artscroll, i don’t remember where off the top of my head
147,
unless you resume tachnun on the 14th
i finally had a chance to look it up!
it’s in taanis daf yud ches
it doesnt say it specifically for beis sivan, i extrapolated it for beis sivan and like i said it was days not to fast (or make a eulogy)
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The shul I usually daven in didn’t say tachnun today
I gave up trying
We said tachanun with a brocha.
I don’t say Tachanun on Yom HaAtzmaut. Don’t make sense to say it after Hallel.
I visited the congregation in Madrid Spain. They never recite Tachanun on Mondays or Thursdays. I have never found another community with this minhag.
I don’t say Tachanun on Yom HaAtzmaut. Don’t make sense to say it after Hallel.
Agree, if you were saying both, I’d think it would go before.
What wasnt Eicha supposed to be said today?
I said Tachanun, half Hallel without a Brachah, full Hallel without a Brachah, full Hallel with a Bracha, Kinnos, Selichos, Eichah, and Shir Hashirim twice just to be Yotzei Kol Hadei’os.
You weren’t yotzei the shittah to not say Hallel.
He forgot to mention that he said “Baruch Shem” a bunch of times and then went to a later minyan that doesn’t say Hallel.
🙂
I started learning 8 Perakim of Tehillim a day a few weeks ago so that today’s Perakim were included in Hallel and I had Kavanah that if the Halachah is like those who don’t say Hallel then I was just doing it L’shem Talmud Torah.
Ben Gurion’s shittah was to not say hallel or tachanun. Many people do the same today.
I’ll follow the Chazon Ish over Ben Gurion, thank you.
Meno: That is said as a joke, usually, to represent an opinion that there is enough Simcha to nullify Tachanun but that Hallel is inappropriate. Ben Gurion didn’t have an actual “Shittah”.
Agree, if you were saying both, I’d think it would go before. 2 separate reasons to be Makdim Tachanun to Hsllel:-
1) Perek 6 in Tehillim precedes Perek 113-118, and if read in Serugin {wrong order} probably not Yotzei.
2) Todir veShe’Eino Todir:- Todir Kodem.
Ben Gurion’s minhag was no tallis and teffilin, no shachris, and no God. Not a minhag I would suggest following…
mw13: Of course. That’s why it’s a joke.
Yes, I figured. But I find the joke to be in bad taste; I don’t like the suggestion that we should allow non-observant individuals to influence how we practice our religion, even as a joke.
Doesn’t bother me.
Compared to Obama, Ben Gurion was a far better person.
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