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April 30, 2009 2:48 am at 2:48 am #589726goody613Member
what does everyone say about this??
April 30, 2009 3:04 am at 3:04 am #646118coke not pepsiMemberi dont know but i just heard that s/o who davens in my shul has the systems
April 30, 2009 3:07 am at 3:07 am #646119an open bookParticipantsystems??
April 30, 2009 3:09 am at 3:09 am #646120JaxMemberApril 30, 2009 3:15 am at 3:15 am #646121oomisParticipantIt’s very frightening to me, how quickly this is spreading. I was very saddened to hear about the toddler who died. This is not just the common cold – it has devastating effects.
April 30, 2009 3:21 am at 3:21 am #646122JaxMembergoody613: check the homepage so more details!
April 30, 2009 6:21 am at 6:21 am #646123aussieboyParticipantIt has already spread to 24 countries and 10 states in the US.
The fatality rate is between 5% and 10 percent with around 165 dead out of 2000 infected (those are not the exact numbers).
Majority of those are from Mexico (about 150) which the medical care available is much less than here in the US (for those in the US). I wouldnt worry to much about it.
It is no more or less dangerous than the regular flu but since it is has mutated and is now airborne it travels much faster and humans have not built up a resistance to it.
They say that older people may be more resistant since it shows many similarities to viruses from earlier times.
As long as your healthy and have good hygeine you should be fine.
April 30, 2009 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm #646124BasYisroel2ParticipantI don’t know if this is true.i heard that a Mir Bachur who went to a Hotel in Mexico
has it. Did you know that Mexico has a pretty big frum kehilla!I have a friend from there who know lives in N.Y.!I guess we should just have all the Jewish people of Mexico in our tefillos!I guess we should just have all the Jewish people of Mexico in our tefillos!
April 30, 2009 2:11 pm at 2:11 pm #646125aussieboyParticipantBasYisroel2: How about everyone who has the swine flu jewish and not jewish.
April 30, 2009 2:39 pm at 2:39 pm #646126BasYisroel2Participantaussieboy
We can do that
April 30, 2009 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #646127Feif UnParticipantaussieboy: where did you get those numbers from? I just looked on CNN, and they have a full breakdown. They say there are only 154 confirmed cases of swine flu in the entire world, with only 8 deaths. That’s just over a 5% fatality rate. Also, 7 of the 8 deaths were in Mexico, where the people couldn’t get proper health care, and lived in very poor conditions. The one fatality in the US was a baby.
The regular flu infects and kills many more people than the swine flu. The whole thing is being overblown.
April 30, 2009 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm #646129Y.W. EditorKeymasterApril 30, 2009 4:10 pm at 4:10 pm #646130areivimzehlazehParticipantI’m waiting for some heimishe mocher to make this into the biggest over-night money making business 😉
April 30, 2009 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #646131mepalMemberThey’ll begin making them in a couple of varieties. A shabbos one, a weekday one, a shluf mask, and for those really religious, there’ll even be a shul one 😉
April 30, 2009 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #646132Y.W. EditorKeymasterThread officially renamed by YWN Editor 🙂
April 30, 2009 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #646133areivimzehlazehParticipantyes R’ Key Master 😉
April 30, 2009 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #646134seeallsidesParticipantApril 30, 2009 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #646135lgbgMemberit was said:
A black will be president when a pig will fly, well 100 days after presidency= SWINE FLU!
April 30, 2009 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm #646136Y.W. EditorKeymasterHey!
That was posted this morning on the YWN Twitter page: http://twitter.com/YWN
April 30, 2009 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm #646137shazamParticipantSwine Flu is totally overblown.
Look at the World Health Organization (http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/) and the US Center for Disease Control (http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/). Look at CONFIRMED cases, not suspected/maybe/symptoms, etc. It seems like any time someone sniffles, they’re automatically tagged as a “confirmed” case.
As of April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM EDT, there were 109 confirmed cases in the US, including one fatality. As of As of 18:00 GMT, 29 April 2009 (updated for the more recent US figures), there were a total of 166 confirmed cases ON EARTH, including 8 fatalities.
Typically, 36,000 people die EVERY YEAR of the flu.
Swine flu is NOT a pandemic. And yes, we ARE overreacting. Big time. Just look at the stupid Egyptian government.
April 30, 2009 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #646138Y.W. EditorKeymasterShazam, can you please contact the YWN Editor?
Thanks.
April 30, 2009 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #646139mepalMemberuh oh. is someone getting into trouble?
April 30, 2009 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #646140areivimzehlazehParticipantnice goin shazam 😉
Now we know where YWN gets it’s info from- the very educated CR members! ;);)
April 30, 2009 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #646141lgbgMemberShazam I couldn’t agree with you more!
A guy in my office took home masks for his family and kids, we told him he’s NUTS!
April 30, 2009 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #646142mepalMemberWell overhere, they’re telling us to wear them at work because you can never know who may be exposed or carrying the flu. Now thats overreacting.
April 30, 2009 5:31 pm at 5:31 pm #646143areivimzehlazehParticipantI’m also waiting for the official Kol Korei on mask wearing….
April 30, 2009 5:43 pm at 5:43 pm #646144mazal77ParticipantWell, I was thinking what is Hashem trying to tell us, with this flu??
April 30, 2009 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #646146draykupMemberAn average of 36000 Americans die every year from the common flu.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm
So far only one has died in the US. So i don’t know why people should be more worried then when the flu goes around every year.
April 30, 2009 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #646147areivimzehlazehParticipantThank you draykup. This is the inaccuracy of most statistics. We don’t have the background facts to compare to
May 1, 2009 2:41 am at 2:41 am #646148BasYisroel2ParticipantI don’t know if people are aware but my mother heard on the radio that it is very hard for people in Mexico/Mexico city to get food! I would like to know if perhaps the YWN editor can verify this.If this is true maybe we can set up/ or an askan can set up a shipment of kosher food to be sent from us to Mexico!
May 1, 2009 3:07 am at 3:07 am #646149beaconParticipantit was said:
A black will be president when a pig will fly, well 100 days after presidency= SWINE FLU!
I heard this line at least 5 times today…
May 1, 2009 3:09 am at 3:09 am #646150JaxMemberbeacon: & i got million of textes like that! people it was funny the first time!
May 1, 2009 3:13 am at 3:13 am #646151Bais Yaakov maydelParticipant5? try 30.
May 1, 2009 5:00 am at 5:00 am #646152aussieboyParticipantFeif Un: Sorry those were suspected cases and deaths not confirmed.
May 1, 2009 9:20 am at 9:20 am #646153May 1, 2009 11:58 am at 11:58 am #646154mchemtobMemberThe face masks are a divine sign for us to stop talking loshon hora.
May 1, 2009 1:03 pm at 1:03 pm #646155May 1, 2009 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #646156lgbgMemberI think the main problem is the world was not prepared for this Swine flu outbreak.
Masks are definitely pushing it, but if you wash your hands after you use the restrooms and wash your hands after a sneeze or a cough you are preventing yourself from catching this flu 🙂
May 1, 2009 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #646157noitallmrParticipantAmazing- just saw the Gemora Tanis 21b that speaks about swine flu!!! Approx half way down (Omru lei Lerab Yehudah)…
Check it out guys and tell me what you think???
May 1, 2009 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #646158mepalMembergood point lgbg 😉
May 1, 2009 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #646159feivelParticipantThe U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Mexico’s epidemic of the new H1N1 swine flu virus may not be as severe as it looked at first, with many mild cases that were not immediately noticed.
Mexican Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova said the public hospitals that treat roughly half the country admitted just 46 patients with severe flu symptoms on Thursday, down from 212 patients on April 20.
May 1, 2009 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #646160HealthParticipantNot to be alarmist but I find it very disconcerting that about a week after this hit the news -the media-gov. complex is saying there is nothing to worry about. Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. The Spanish Flu of 1918 that killed 1/3 of the world is the same flu -H1N1. At that time they say it started in the spring time like this one and it was mild and it turned deadly in the fall. I’m not saying we definetly have a killer on our hands but whose to say we don’t? The US gov. at that time also played it down. If we don’t take precautions it could be a fatal mistake. Those masks don’t do anything for the flu- you need n-100 protection. If our instant-demanding generation out there puts our heads in the sand -who knows? All you people out there should demand your elected officials to develop the vaccine for as many people as they can before this virus mutates- possibly in the next couple of months!
May 1, 2009 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #646161aussieboyParticipantHealth: Get your facts straight. The flu in 1918 killed 15-20 million people are you telling me that there was only 45-60 million people alive in 1918?
May 2, 2009 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm #646162noitallmrParticipantAmazing- just saw the Gemora Tanis 21b that speaks about swine flu!!! Approx half way down (Omru lei Lerab Yehudah)…
Check it out guys and tell me what you think???
May 3, 2009 2:56 am at 2:56 am #646163goody613Membernoitallmr: wow maybe we should fast like r’ yehuda said? ;0)
May 3, 2009 3:04 am at 3:04 am #646164goody613MemberWhoah! just saw in the m”b (576:3) that if there is a plague among pigs we should fast b/c it’s easier to spread to humans then to other animals!!!!
May 3, 2009 7:27 am at 7:27 am #646165HealthParticipantDear Aussie boy,
I did make a mistake -I meant to write 1/3 of the world was infected.
BTW, you get your facts straight- 15-20 million deaths were the old statistics, the new statistics are 50-100 million DEATHS!! You’re online- look it up!
May 3, 2009 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #646166noitallmrParticipantgoody613…tell me when I can stop because I’m getting mighty hungry…
May 3, 2009 2:12 pm at 2:12 pm #646167HealthParticipantDear Ames,
I don’t want this socialist gov. to take over all business in the US, like they did with the car and bank industries; but they can push the pharm companies. Eg.- They can give them financial incentives and also to ease the regulations- like allowing vaccines to be grown in cells not just in eggs, which is a faster process!
May 3, 2009 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #646168Y.W. EditorKeymasterWas this entire Swine Flu worth it just to have Joe Biden open his mouth prompting the NY Post to write that letter?
Just a thought. No opinion here.
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