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Is it proper to say Mishnayos for a non-religious Jew who (R”L) committed suicide? Thank you.
I think most hold today the suicide is caused by mental illness and its probably ok to say mishayos and bury in a regular part of the cemetary
I dont have an answer to your question yehudahTzvi but it is nice to hear that you want to do that and I was touched that you would want to do that for another Jew…. Hashem should give u the strength to continue to serve Him properly and continue to have such a giving heart to klal yisrael. All the best to you.
It is never* wrong to learn Mishnayos, regardless of the reason.
The Wolf
*Barring Tisha B’Av or during mourning.
Most current poskim rule that suicide is due to mental illness (as Zahavasdad said) and not a truly conscious act of the ill person trying to control their destiny.
Learning Mishnayos Liuley Nishmas is considered a tremendous merit regardless if someone was frum or not. A tinok Shenishbar would have an especially tremendous Zechus by Torah study being done in their memory as they were not properly exposed to it in their lifetime.
Sorry about your loss and only Simchas in Klal Yisrael
Hello YehudahTzvi,
I am so sorry for your loss and am sending prayers for healing your way.
This is so sad. Yasher koach to you for the sensitivity you are showing.
What does your Rav say? Did they give him a Jewish burial?
Yehudah Tzvi ben Elisheva, may your everlasting kindness for a meis mitzvah, bring you a very speedy refuah shelamah and an abundance of HAGEFEN always for you and yours!!! Omein Kein Yehe Razon!
This is so wonderful of you.
Loss of life is terrible thing, even without the suicide factor. It shows a lot that you are going out of your way fo make sure that this person gets a tikun.
@YehudaTzvi
I can’t tell you how nice it is that you are doing this. I recognize that there are those that would tell you that you are doing wrong, but considering that you were fired by this man, you are doing a wonderful thing for learning for his neshomah.
There should be more yidden like you in this world. In the merit of what YOU are doing, may we see more joy in this world.
I said it before but I gotta tell u again YT I’m really getting a great chizuk from what ur doing.Keep it up!
Just FYI, it is possible that even someone who is completely in his right mind can be suffering from such a severe depression that the only reason he doesn’t attempt suicide is because doing so would lose him his ??? in ???? ??? as I know personally from my experience in the past.
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because doing so would lose him his ??? in ???? ??? as I know personally from my experience in the past. Could you King Bob XV please elaborate on what you imply by personal experience? Do you know exactly the workings about Olom haBo? & the 6 questions & judgement upstairs? If you have such personal experience of the workings up there, you are the most sought after speaker & mentor in this world, and my Synagogue would certainly like to invite you to preach us, possibly even on R’H &/or Y’K.
Hello King Bob XV,
I am also so glad that you did not take that desperate step, and my prayers are with you that you have been able to find help, understanding, compassion, and healing in treating your depression.
Perhaps you can also have someone talk to the family and insist he is brought to kvura as soon as possible. Do you know if the family is trying to, or even if they are willing, to give him a jewish burial? Even if your Rabbi did not personally know him, he will help; you are willing to ask the CR, and no one here knew the man; you no doubt can ask your rabbi the same question. It is a complicated issue.
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