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  • #2176642
    DovidBT
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    Can tefillin that’s kept in a car get damaged due to hot temperatures during the daytime?

    Does placing them in an insulated container avoid or reduce the problem?

    If an ice pack is also in the container, will that make it worse by causing condensation?

    #2176696
    Rocky
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    #2176706
    maskildoresh
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    Tefillin will often be damaged if you leave them in the car, (clearly depends on the weather) , generally it’s not a good idea.

    I’ve seen some people use a container designed for Israeli soldiers that looks like an insulated thermos with reflective material etc that is supposed to keep Tefillin safe in almost any environment. I’m not sure how to get it or if it’s truly effective.

    #2176710
    Gadolhadorah
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    Short answer. DON”T store any leather products in a car on a hot day. Period. Full Stop. And putting them in a cooler with ice is even more problematic. It may be ok for short stops (e.g an hour or so) but otherwise, keep them with you or leave them in the beis medrash, shul or home when you finish davening.

    #2176717
    Avram in MD
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    DovidBT,

    “Can tefillin that’s kept in a car get damaged due to hot temperatures during the daytime?”

    Most definitely. Heat is one of the worst things for tefillin.

    “Does placing them in an insulated container avoid or reduce the problem?”

    It can, if the insulation is sufficient to keep the temperature inside the container down.

    “If an ice pack is also in the container, will that make it worse by causing condensation?”

    An ice pack might be a good idea, but the tefillin should be contained in a waterproof bag so the ice pack stays separate.

    #2176718
    @fakenews
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    There are a variety of environmental factors that can affect your tefillin. Heat can cause some of the lettering to melt with it housing to warp. Cold, can cause the lettering to crack. moisture can cause some of the same issues.
    The closer you get to the extremes for any of these environmental factors, the more likely you are to incur damage.
    I wish I had more specific instructions to give you, but currently I don’t because there are too many variables, such as how old they are, the quality of the hides they were made from, etc.

    #2176733
    ☕️coffee addict
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    I hope not

    #2176765
    DovidBT
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    “a container designed for Israeli soldiers”

    There a product like that on Amazon, sold by Masoret. It’s $90, has a high rating but there are only ratings by four people, and only one review.

    #2176780
    DovidBT
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    And I doubt if that Amazon product provides better protection from hot or cold temperatures than an inexpensive insulated container.

    #2176967
    DontMindMe
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    I don’t know about the parshiyos, but the leather definitely can be affected by heat. In the past I’ve seen the retzuos become sticky and start sticking to each other.
    I’ve found that leaving the car windows open a crack and putting the tefillin under a couple of layers (i.e. your jacket) will keep the tefillin safe.

    #2177187
    @fakenews
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    @dontmindme:
    If your teffilin got hot enough that the paint on the retzuos started to melt, I hope you got the parshiyos checked before you continued to use them.

    #2177185

    May not fully solve the problem but – leave the car in the shade, put curtains of the car esp in the sunny side, have the window a little opened so that it does not overheat inside (maybe not in NYC). You can also follow an old minhag of wearing tefilin the whole day.

    #2177194
    DovidBT
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    “You can also follow an old minhag of wearing tefilin the whole day.”

    Do you know anyone who does that?

    #2177260
    RBZS
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    Sure.
    In E.I. it is quite common.
    The entire Zilberman community in the Old City wear them all day from bar mitzvah on (they take them off when playing ball but not when shopping).

    #2177457
    Tzadik in Peltz
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    Why would you risk getting them stolen?

    #2177487
    DovidBT
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    “Why would you risk getting them stolen?”

    That’s not the topic. Why would you risk them getting stolen?

    #2177509
    commonsaychel
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    That’s not the topic., it is now.

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