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August 10, 2011 3:01 am at 3:01 am #598529Sender AvMember
A relative of a relative is extremely ill and has requested that she be cremated when she R’L is niftar. I think she should have a refuah shelamiah #1. I am not close with them, but would like to try and do something to stop it.Their son is BT MO and I think has already spoken to his parents but has not been able to convince them. My father spoke to the relative who has a sick relative telling them how the nazis used cremation and how they should really talk to their relative again, but they said its too hard/sad to think about. Any ideas on how/if we should proceed???
August 10, 2011 3:15 am at 3:15 am #796267sheinMemberOffer to fully pay for the burial.
August 10, 2011 3:34 am at 3:34 am #796269SGoldMemberContact Misaskim at 877CHESED6 or http://www.misaskim.org/contactmis.php
I dealt with someone named Mr. Weill who was very courteous and dealt with the matter (it was a man who wished to be buried in a catholic cemetery) with utmost professionalism.
August 10, 2011 3:39 am at 3:39 am #796270aries2756ParticipantDo you have any idea why they chose cremation?
August 10, 2011 5:07 am at 5:07 am #796274always runs with scissors fastParticipantI think according to halacha, that you do not have to carry out the wishes of a person wanting to be creamated. In fact, you SHOULD ask a shaila.
August 10, 2011 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #796275Sender AvMembercremation is cheaper.
August 10, 2011 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm #796276aries2756ParticipantIf that is the only reason, then you can call the Hebrew Free Burial Society or Misaskim and have someone go talk to them. I am sure if someone from the Chevra Kadisha of their neighborhood went to speak to them, something could be arranged from the Hebrew Free Burial Society as well.
August 10, 2011 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #796277sheinMemberIf its a money issue it can easily be prevented by paying.
August 10, 2011 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #796278mikehall12382MemberSender Av…funds are tight, but I would be happy to donate to help raise funds for a proper burial…
August 10, 2011 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #796279zahavasdadParticipantThe high cost of jewish funerals and Burials is an issue that MOST be looked into
Many jews who are not so religious and not so rich will opt for cremation. They do not want to burden their survivors with $10,000 or more in final expenses
August 10, 2011 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #796280YW Moderator-80MemberThe high cost of Jewish funerals and Burials
i dont know where you live, where i live frum Jewish burials are very simple and MARKEDLY less expensive than gentile funerals with their mahogany caskets, flowers, and opulence
August 10, 2011 6:07 pm at 6:07 pm #796281zahavasdadParticipantThe caskets are cheaper than non-jews
However you have to rent the funeral home (Or have a gravesite service which is cheaper)
You have to buy the plot , you have to open the grave and you have to seal the grave. You might or might not have to pay a rabbi. You also have to buy a Stone.
Price it out, its about $10,000-$15,000 for a funeral home service and about $8000-$12,000 for a grave site service
August 10, 2011 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #796282YW Moderator-80Memberi wasnt arguing on your premise that cremation is cheaper than burial
i was arguing on your implication that Jewish funerals are more expensive than non-Jewish ones
see the quoted text in my post
August 10, 2011 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #796283zahavasdadParticipantMany non-jews cremate to avoid the high cost. Since most jews do not I was referring to the cost of death.
A non-jewish funeral with embalming, Open Casket , High class casket is expensive, but one can avoid this
There is unfortunatly no way to make a cheap jewish funeral (I am assuming one does not want to be buried by the Free Burial society)
August 10, 2011 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #796284MichaelCMemberI heard a story about this man who had a farther who was not religious (since he had survived the Holocaust) and he became a millionaire when he came to the USA.
He had 2 sons, 1 was not frum like his farther, 1 became frum.
After he died they were to divide the money (about $100 million), but on condition that the farther would be cremated according to his wishes.
The frum son would not take the $50 milllion and made a deal with the not frum son that he would give his farther a proper burial.
The non frum son was so amazed by this, he gave the farther a proper burial, and became frum.
August 10, 2011 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #796285Contact local Chabad. They are known to be helpful in such situations.
Hatzlocha!
August 10, 2011 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #796286Sender AvMemberI called Misaskim and they were very helpful. Thanks for the recommendation.
August 10, 2011 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #796288a maminParticipantMissaskim is a wonderful organization. Anyone willing to donate, donors always welcome.
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