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July 21, 2011 2:17 pm at 2:17 pm #598130IUseBrainsParticipant
Music will be trendy , but without Goyish style!
July 21, 2011 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #788940HaLeiViParticipantAre you looking for customers or musicians?
July 21, 2011 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #788941jewish sourceParticipantwhere?
July 21, 2011 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #788942IUseBrainsParticipantMusicians, professional only!
July 21, 2011 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #788943IUseBrainsParticipantNEW YORK
July 21, 2011 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #788944jewish sourceParticipantI am with you professional I read vechulu.
July 21, 2011 2:58 pm at 2:58 pm #788945tracht gutMembersounds great! wish i can join..
July 21, 2011 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #788946AvodasChesedOutofTwnParticipantGlad to hear it. My husband’s band (we do mostly New England simcha’s) is VERY leibidic but also ah, more traditional in it’s music. And purposely not so loud.
But what can you accomplish by posting here? Everything is supposed to be anonymous and no links?
July 21, 2011 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #788947IUseBrainsParticipantWhich city are u located in so I can search!
July 21, 2011 3:38 pm at 3:38 pm #788948Eizena KupMemberCan I join?
I’m strictly traditional, no junk. No loshon hora, or any hora (the new junk ones)
July 21, 2011 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #788949IUseBrainsParticipantElizena, is ur recording online somewhere?
July 21, 2011 4:24 pm at 4:24 pm #788950Eizena KupMemberI don’t have any site. But I believe there’s a recording somewhere as I do sometimes perform in public.
July 21, 2011 4:27 pm at 4:27 pm #788951jewish sourceParticipantIUseBrains what do you play
July 21, 2011 4:41 pm at 4:41 pm #788952apushatayidParticipantWe already have jewish musicians playing non jewish music. just go to the average jewish wedding or concert.
July 21, 2011 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #788953IUseBrainsParticipantNeed a support group!
July 21, 2011 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #788954Eizena KupMemberapushatayid: Right, read OP heading. – Non-goyish.
July 21, 2011 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #788955HappyOne1MemberI love this Idea,u will definetly be Matzliach!
Hashem is with u!!
July 21, 2011 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #788956HaLeiViParticipantOK. Anyone play the bassoon?
July 21, 2011 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #788957Eizena KupMemberNo. But I know one individual who plays flute without the keys, just the mouthpiece!
July 21, 2011 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #788958apushatayidParticipantNeed a kazoo player?
July 21, 2011 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #788959mikehall12382MemberI play a mean Traingle
July 21, 2011 8:13 pm at 8:13 pm #788960HaLeiViParticipantAnyone for the Jew’s Harp?
July 22, 2011 1:21 am at 1:21 am #788961July 22, 2011 4:25 pm at 4:25 pm #788962WIYMemberIusebrains
Amazing idea, I wish you much Hatzlacha. It will be tough to implement because goyish songs and styles have so permeated the Jewish music industry that I don’t see how it will ever get out. However if you try your best to make sure that none of the non Jewish songs are used at the minimum like some famous ones used at almost every simcha from various Zonohs like “lady” gaga and other trash…you will certainly have Hatzlacha and Hashem will be will you. I also think you will have many Gedolim on your side who will gladly recommend you to their talmidim so make sure to get your name out amongst all the Roshei Yeshivas.
July 22, 2011 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm #788963charliehallParticipantWhat is “non-Goyish” music?
July 22, 2011 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #788964WIYMembercharliehall
There are many examples. Think of some of the old niggunim. For example any of Yossele Rosenblatts songs or any of the old chassidish songs like Koh Echsof…
Songs that are spiritual and bring one closer to Hashem.
July 24, 2011 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #788965IUseBrainsParticipantPlease donate song ideas!
July 24, 2011 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm #788966charliehallParticipant” For example any of Yossele Rosenblatts songs or any of the old chassidish songs like Koh Echsof.”
Those are actually in the style of non-Jewish music. And Rosenblatt himself sang non-Jewish songs, including opera arias and “The Star-Spangled Banner”, in public.
July 24, 2011 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #788967WIYMemberUsi inflCharlie
We are referring to contemporary pop music which one can hear on any fm station. Todays non Jewish music is made with one intention and one intention only…
July 24, 2011 4:03 pm at 4:03 pm #788968IUseBrainsParticipantLets tweak, halachically there may be nothing wrong,but it leads to the opposite of Dveikus in Hashem, so please!!!
and Charlie, please do not write anything that sounds negative!!
July 24, 2011 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #788969HaLeiViParticipantCharlie, there was a long thread about that topic some while ago where I explained my point of view. This thread is mainly for those who agree with me.
July 24, 2011 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #788970HaLeiViParticipantOK. When do we start practicing? What are we using for bass, chords, lead instruments, and others? I think I’d rather have an electric guitar with five pedals than one singer.
July 24, 2011 5:43 pm at 5:43 pm #788971jewish sourceParticipantnu I am ready where do I sign up ?
July 24, 2011 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #788972Bob SquappstienParticipantI play the shoelace. (sport laces only, I’m still perfecting dress laces.)
July 24, 2011 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #788973bassoonistParticipantHaLeiVi: I do!
July 24, 2011 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #788974IUseBrainsParticipantGuys, For Real!
We are playing trendy, but without Goyish Style, so we will be using same guys and sound equip as everyone else.
Maybe No Horas!
July 24, 2011 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #788975IUseBrainsParticipantwhich means, we will bli neder , not shake like goyim!
July 24, 2011 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #788976bassoonistParticipantReally, mamish, I do.
July 24, 2011 6:34 pm at 6:34 pm #788977IUseBrainsParticipantbassonist,no letzonus, please!!!
July 24, 2011 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #788978Eizena KupMemberIUseBrains:
I do one man jobs for occasions, strictly Yiddish style, Yiddishe taam. There is still some demand out there, not as much as those going for the junk, though. I do keyboard, both as one man and as accompaniment. I’m b”h starting out on violin and flute too.
July 24, 2011 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #788979Eizena KupMemberIt’s very apparent the difference of the kind of simcha my edele, heimish style produces than that of the rest of the rock/jazz/bumish sort (junk/noise). You can actually see it in the faces of the attendees, dancing and participating in true Yiddishe simcha. Don’t get me wrong, it is lively, full of deep bass and middles too, but it’s bent on solely Yiddishe taam. Those who do hire me, do so because they want that pure Yiddish taste, unblemished with the advance of all popular goyish-style singers and songs.
There’s a Kehila I perform at generally one Yom Tov time, people come in to join, not to hear or watch my advanced instruments / machinery (very obsolete), it’s because of my choice of songs and pure Yiddish taste. I’m not ready to give it up!
July 24, 2011 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #788980IUseBrainsParticipantYoure’ the best!
July 24, 2011 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #788981Eizena KupMemberIUseBrains,no letzonus, please!!!
July 24, 2011 9:11 pm at 9:11 pm #788982IUseBrainsParticipanti’m not joking!
July 24, 2011 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #788983charliehallParticipant“Charlie, please do not write anything that sounds negative!!”
I wasn’t trying to be negative, I was just trying to understand what you meant. “Jewish” music is really hard to define. Almost all Jewish music has been influenced by non-Jewish styles, and I don’t think Arnold Schoenberg’s atonal music, which arguably was like nothing ever heard before, is what any band is going to play at a simcha.
When my wife and I got married we hired the best klezmer band we could find. We wanted something that was more of a traditional Ashkenazic Jewish style even though that style is arguably only about a century or two old and clearly shares characteristics with other Eastern European music. We also were successful in getting them to keep the volume at a reasonable level, which our guests appreciated.
July 24, 2011 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #788984bassoonistParticipantI’m serious. It’s not terribly useful for Yiddishe simchas, but HaLevai did ask…
July 24, 2011 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #788985HaLeiViParticipantSure bassoonist, why not start an authentic band? A harp for chords and appreggio, bassoon for bass, triangle, pipe organ – not sure how we’ll get it in, though.
July 25, 2011 5:01 am at 5:01 am #788986yossiefMemberI think that if you play a wedding, you pretty much have to play what the Baal Simcha wants. They know their crowd, and presumably know what they would like.
A simcha is made for the enjoyment of the Baal Simchas and their guests. I see nothing wrong with playing some Russian songs at a wedding of people who come from Russia, or Hungarian for people who come from Hungary.
People like what they grow up with. As long as you don’t play inappropriate songs, like Never on a Sunday, at a wedding.
But PLEASE keep the volume at a bearable level, so we don’t go home deaf. I have gone home from quite a few weddings before the main course, because the noise was unbearable. That is not a Simcha, it is torture.
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