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  • #2154015
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Is there currently a speaker? Is it pelosi? If there isn’t and the president and vice president dies (ch”v) what happens?

    #2154043
    efshar azoi
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    I think it goes to Adam schiff or jerry nadler. That should be good for the yidden!

    #2154051
    ujm
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    There is no Speaker, currently.

    #2154053
    ujm
    Participant

    Next in line for the presidency, after the vacant position of Speaker, is the President Pro Tempore of the Senate.

    #2154074
    Amil Zola
    Participant

    The current president pro tempor is Patty Murray, D from WA.

    #2154073

    This is a serious hesaron. If the country does not have Hamedaber, is it even human!?

    #2154069
    jackk
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    For the second day, the House remains speaker-less and no new members have been sworn in.
    It is clear that even after the hurdle of electing a speaker is over, the republicans in Congress are going to be divided for the next 2 years.
    As Lindsey Graham said,
    If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed…….and we will deserve it.

    #2154123
    Little Froggie
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    They’re speechless!!

    #2154113
    yungermanS
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    Hashem is the SPEAKER for the white house, for the United States and for the entire world and also the KING OF KINGS RULER OF THE ENTIRE WORLD. have we forgotten this and need to be sent a reminder directly from Hashem?

    Another fact for all of us to remind ourselves is that Hashem has already chosen who will be the winner of the 2024 Presidential election results

    Hopefully we won’t need to go through these elections and will Have already woken up to Hashems wake up call for serious teshuva and achdus and Hashem sending Mashiach already bkarov before Elections 2024

    #2154094
    Lostspark
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    McCarthy will get it. This is all posturing for the sake of political theatre.

    #2154085
    Cascade
    Participant

    in 1923 it also took awhile..something about the number

    #2154215
    akuperma
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    As the Speaker position is vacant, if both the Presdent and Vice-President die, the President pro temp of the Senate becomes President, though it is unclear whether she would get a regular term (it never happened before).

    #2154224
    jackk
    Participant

    LostSpark,

    In my observation, McCarthy will not get it and will never get it.
    This is not normal political posturing which happens behind the scenes and before the nomination.
    This is an all out war between 2 parts of the Republican party.

    #2154236
    ujm
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    akuperma: Why is it any less clear than if the Vice President ascended upon the vacancy of the presidency (which has occurred several times)?

    #2154268
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    @Akuperma
    Your scenario is only applicable if the President and VP die virtually simultaneously.
    Otherwise, once VP sworn in as President, nominates a new VP to be approved by both houses of Congress.

    Right now, the House has no members, so it can’t happen, but it can if there occurred a vacancy in the Speaker’s position during a session when members have been sworn in.

    #2154296
    n0mesorah
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    Dear Yungerman,

    Please pour your thoughts out to God. That is not me.

    Your fellow poster

    #2154318
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Little froggie,

    They probably have a lot of speeches so they’re not speechless, their problem is they lack a speaker, I can help them out by giving them my Alexa though

    #2154322
    ujm
    Participant

    “Right now, the House has no members, so it can’t happen”

    CTLAWYER: What can’t happen?

    Also, whoever the President nominates doesn’t assume the office of Vice President until confirmed by the Senate. (The House isn’t involved in the confirmation of a new VP.)

    #2154380
    Gadolhadorah
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    The Taliban 20 is holding out for a written set of commitments from McCarthy on the rule changes, committee assignments, guaranteed floor votes etc. they are demanding so this circus should wind up on Friday AM with either McCarthy or Scalise elected. To save face, some of the real crazies like Gosar, Boebert and Goetz may insist that McCarthy step aside for Scalise and that could happen. It will not go beyond the weekend.

    #2154363
    Little Froggie
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    I too have a bunch of speakers I could lend them. 5 QSC, 4.5 JBL…

    #2154402

    Are they paid salary and get insurance while this is going on? I hope not and that would be a good reason to hope this ends soon.

    #2154414
    Amil Zola
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    Well I’ll give McCarthy kudos for not crying voting fraud, even after having lost 7 times in a row.

    #2154474
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    @UJM

    Don’t give up your day job
    You have officially failed Constitutional Law
    Try READING the 25th Amendment which lays out the procedure for filling a vacancy in the VP office. The President nominates a VP and the nomination must be approved by the House and the Senate.

    This is different that Presidential appointments of Judges and Ambassadors which are confirmed solely by the Senate.

    I have taught Constitutional Law over the years as an adjunct professor. You get an F.

    #2154475
    Ex-CTLawyer
    Participant

    @Always
    Every time the Republicans shut down the Federal Government the shut out employees received their pay and benefits for the time not worked.
    We taxpayers will pay for this Republican circus in many ways, rest assured the Boeberts and Gaetzes will continue to line their pockets with our money

    #2154520
    Little Froggie
    Participant

    We all did the same in the glorious Covid year(s). We were paid NOT to work

    #2154585
    Participant
    Participant

    And….McCarthy won.

    #2154672
    ☕️coffee addict
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    The question is what concessions did he give

    #2154666
    Lostspark
    Participant

    Hey jackk, what do you think about McCarthy winning?

    #2154710
    ujm
    Participant

    Did the sky fall or WWII break out as a result of the terrible terrible 4 day delay in choosing a Speaker?

    #2154799
    Amil Zola
    Participant

    Johnson

    #2154798
    Amil Zola
    Participant

    Kudos to House Clerk Jackson for keeping order throughout this process.

    #2154839
    Ex-CTLawyer
    Participant

    @Little Froggie
    “We all…..paid NOT to work.”

    Please speak only for yourself.
    This member of the CR, who is an employer, worked all through Covid, as did his employees and allwere paid to work. No employee of the CTL firm was laid off and collected unemployment. The nature of the practice made remote work practical. Clients were serviced via, Zoom, phone, email and fax.

    #2154817
    ujm
    Participant

    You call that “order”?

    #2154869

    CTL, I also wanted to reply but then, Little Froggie is probably not yet in the workforce so why disturb his fantasies?

    The way WFH transformed the work environment is still an unfinished story. For the Jews specifically, there are now so many places where you have no problems with erev shabbos, taking chol hamoed off, staying away from pritzut and social drinking, healthy home diet instead of brown bag lunches, ability to learn with the kids during the day, and take Florida workations.

    Bigger point is – employees always liked WFH, but employers, esp middle managers, were afraid of letting it happen. It seems that there was no productivity decline overall, probably a combination of two factors:
    1) productive people are even more productive without constant control and inane meetings
    2) non-productive people are equally not productive at home and not interfering with the rest.

    #2154870

    another change positively affecting Yidden – decline in business travel with ensuring kashrus, davening and sholom bayis problems. Some forecasted that it will come back for competitive reasons – when one supplier goes to drink with the client, others would need to follow. Not sure this happened. I see travel back but there is less of it. Nobody expects you anymore to jump on a plane for an one hour conversation, or at least you can politely decline.

    #2154930
    Ex-CTLawyer
    Participant

    @AAQ
    The CT court system helped facilitate WFH by requiring all filings do be done electronically. No more trips to the courthouse to file papers.
    Many court proceedings are still being held via Zoom. This saves clients loads of money. I typically bill $250 more per hours for court appearances (plus travel time) than my standard rate. Much of the day in court is wasted waiting for cases to be called, judges interrupted for motions, 90 minute lunch breaks when I can’t do other billable work, so the client pays a full day and I don’t do a full day’s work for the client, but have to be available as the judge’s clerk schedules.
    With Zoom, I can do billable work, until I hear the clerk call the case, there is no travel time to be paid by the client, no gas, parking, etc. I don’t take 90 minutes to eat, so i have another hour to work and bill another client. The first client is not stuck paying for a full day.

    We have used WFH for decades, as long as an office staff member is in the office during opening hours, the attorneys can come and go as appointments and meetings warrant. We do not have walk in trade.
    During Mrs. CTL’s long illness I did 90% of my work from my home office. I have a separate outside entrance and a few select clients could see me in person if necessary without me being unavailable for her needs.
    My daughters who work for the firm, loved being able to work from home when my grandchildren were very young and I extended that workstyle to non-family employees as well. each clerical worker chooses one half day per week to be in the office and file. Phones are often transferred to ring off premises at the office manager’s or receptionist’s home office.
    If I didn’t own our offices, I would downsize the firm’s space, but owning a fully paid and depreciated building means it is a prudent decision to remain.

    #2155158

    CTL, we are on the same page here. I had some of my (small number of) employees WFH for years, including working from their own states.

    We are, in a sense, going back to the dignity of personal work that existed before the industrial age, when people worked in their yards or in small businesses. See Bava Basra discussions about what businesses are allowed or not in the courtyards – from tanneries to schools.

    Also, halochos of employees are very sensitive to their dependency. For example, employer should give an advance notice when laying someone off, but the employee can quit any time (subject to not damaging the project). Forcing him to work after the notice makes him in some way an eved. So, the more freedom and flexibility employee can have, the more he is a free person.

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