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The Ches sound, not a Ches. The CH is a gutteral and english speakers cannot pronounce it
English Speakers pronounce Chaim like the CH in Chair
They might also pronouce it like Haim like the H in House
A chof and a Ches really have different sounds. So your comment is wrong.
Further, I speak English. As my first language, in fact. I have no problem saying either the chof or ches sound. Nor do many people.
You also learned Hebrew or Yiddish at an early age, So while English was your first language, you learned the gutterals at an early age
I have no problem saying those sounds either, but try to get someone who does not speak those languages or learned them at a much later point in life to pronounce them
Many Russian speakers have difficulty with the h sound (as in the fifth letter of the aleph bais). I’m told that’s where the name Kagan comes from — a Russian version of Kahan.
There are people who think they are doing a Mitzvah by saying the first 2 words of Yaaleh Vyavo aloud or Vsen Tal Umatar…One is not supposed to do this and in fact it disturbs the one doing it as well as other peoples Shemonah Esrei. Please avoid doing it as it is against Halacha.
I believe the maharshal says not to announce yaaleh v’yavo before sh’moneh esrei of ma’ariv, and instead the gabbai should say it aloud during s”e.
Piskei Teshuvos (1: 5: 6) quotes from Nimukei Orach Chaim, that although one should be very careful to pronounce Hashem’s names correctly, articulating the daled of A-doinoi with a chirik, sounding as A-dinoi, may be acceptable after the fact.
There are people who think they are doing a Mitzvah by saying the first 2 words of Yaaleh Vyavo aloud or Vsen Tal Umatar…One is not supposed to do this and in fact it disturbs the one doing it as well as other peoples Shemonah Esrei. Please avoid doing it as it is against Halacha.
Taken from revach:
Shmoneh Esrei must be said silently. When Yaaleh V’Yavo, Al HaNissim, Mashiv HaRuach, need to be added, people often say the first few words very loud in order to remind the others not to forget. Is this proper?
The Tshuvas HaRashba holds the by Maariv the Gabbai may announce Yaaleh V’Yavo after Kaddish before Shmoneh Esrei. The Maharshal argues and holds it is assur to be mafsik. Therefore he advises that the Gabbai should start Shmoneh Esrei earlier than the Tzibbur and when he gets to Yaaleh V’Yavo he should say the words Yaaleh V’Yavo very loud. From here we learn, says the Be’er Moshe (4:10) that it is permissible for anyone, not only the Gabbai, to say the words very loud in middle of Shmoneh Esrei to remind everyone to say Yaaleh V’Yavo.
He does caution that after the first person does it, no one else should do it since the purpose has already been served. The continuous screams of “Yaaleh V’Yavo” will only disturb people’s tefila and turn davening into a big joke
The Maharil says we’re not Makpid on pronunciation. And he’s talking about Mileil and Mil’ra, which can have a much bigger effect on meaning.
Yeah, people mispronounce words. Even Shem Hashem. At absolute worst, a consistent mispronunciation means you just created a new dialect. Who cares? If you say Shem Hashem wrong, at absolute worst you made a Bracha B’la’az. So complain about mistranslations in Duchening. But saying that mispronouncing Hashem’s name makes an Amein said to such a Bracha is an Amen Yesomah is just pure Amaratzus.
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