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    always happy27
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    time and again israel is incessently under attack. wether it be by rockets,bombings or any other form of terrorism . no other country in the history of the world has been subject to such attacks. israel has every right to retaliate as does any other country if this would happen to them.if mexico started shooting rockets into america we would fire back like its no ones buisness!! and the world would say the u.s. has a right to self defense. yet when israel retalites the world condemns them and calls them terrorists! quite frankly i think we have all had enough! we need solutions!! the only thing we can really do is daven! but i want to know if you were prime minister of israel what would you do to stop this?! and i mean besides what we are all praobably thinking, blow the whole flippin place up!! we need realistic solutions!!!

    #756757
    AinOhdMilvado
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    always happy27…

    When you say “we need realistic solutions” you are implying that

    “blowing the whole flippin place up!!” is an UNrealistic solution.

    It is NOT.

    THAT is precisely how wars are won. That, for example is how WW2 was won.

    Yes, the world, i.e. the U.S., the E.U., the UN, WOULD go crazy with condemnations for a few weeks.

    And then, ya know what? It would fall from people’s short memories, the news media would find other stories to follow, and life would go on.

    BUT – our enemies would be history.

    #756758
    always happy27
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    aom: if i thought that if we blew up gaza it would solve our problems i would fly the plane and drop the bomb myself !! but the reality is gaza is not our only problem!! we have many other problems that would be magnified if we bombed gaza ! for starters iran would have much more reason to nuke isreal! if they really need more incentive! all the surrounding countries would join together and start a war agianst israel! and with the current u.s. administration i dont know who they would support!! that is why i say realistic solutions!

    #756759
    Pashuteh Yid
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    Another idea is to capture Meshal, Haniyeh and the whole gang, try them and sentence them to death by hanging. Put them up on the gallows with a noose around their heads. Then inform them that they will die in the next 15 minutes unless they produce Gilad Shalit.

    #756760

    israel needs to flex it’s muscles, free shalit and do what needs to be done once and for all….the world comes down on Israel regardless of what they do… so to that I say who cares….

    #756761
    AinOhdMilvado
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    always happy27…

    You got it right when you said “iran would have much more reason to nuke Israel! if they really need more incentive!”

    That is exactly the point.

    They do NOT need any additional incentive.

    If they could, they WOULD.

    If/when they can, they WILL.

    That goes for Iran and ALL Israel’s enemies.

    We don’t have to worry about making them hate us, they already hate us!

    It reminds me of the old dark humor anecdote about WW2.

    Two german soldiers (yemach shemam) have rounded up 2 Jews and are bringing them to be transported to a camp.

    One Jew whispers to the other “Hey, I know they have guns and we don’t, but there are 2 of them and 2 of us, maybe we should try to jump them!”

    His friend whispers back “Don’t make trouble!”.

    We are in a similar condition now.

    B’derech ha’teva, we could not be in more trouble than we are. All the arabs hate us, want to destroy us, and are working to the best of their ability toward that goal.

    We don’t have to worry about making them “really mad”. They are “really mad” already.

    What we have to do is fulfill the Torah’s directive of “ha’bah le’hargecha, hashkaiym le’hargo” – when you know someone is aiming to kill you, arise FIRST, and kill HIM!

    When we act like “chagavim” (little nothing bugs/grasshoppers – as the meraglim called themselves, doing the terrible chaiyt of being me’vazeh Am Yisrael) we are making a terrible chilul HaSh-m.

    #756762
    mamashtakah
    Member

    You want to help? Make aliyah. Help make E”Y a frum place.

    #756763
    shlishi
    Member

    PY taking your idea, what if they did the reverse and put Shalit on a gallow and said he will die in the next 15 minutes unless 100 arch-terrorists are released?

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