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  • #601448
    popa_bar_abba
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    I’m thinking of getting snow chains for my car. Every year all you morons get stuck in the snow for days, because you can’t remember from last year that when it snows more than a foot, all the highways in the northeast shut down. So I want to get snow chains, so that I can drive in the storms like all you r


    , but not get stuck.

    What d’you think?

    #911852
    squeak
    Participant

    Learn how to drive in all weather. Skills beat tools every time.

    #911853
    cinderella
    Participant

    “A poor worksman blames his tools”

    #911854
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    So then should I get for all 4 wheels, or only for the drive wheels.

    #911855
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    They are size p185/ 65 R14

    Any suggestions?

    #911856
    yoya
    Member

    pba – pls stop using the “r” word. it is getting old.

    #911857
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    yoya: I did stop using it,…

    #911858
    yoya
    Member

    pba – i know that. what I meant was to stop referring to that word.

    #911859
    Imaofthree
    Participant

    I thought putting chains on tires is illegal because it eats up the road.

    #911860
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Instead of criticizing, why don’t you be helpful and suggest a tire chain.

    Also a down comforter set. I think I’m nesting.

    #911861
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I thought putting chains on tires is illegal because it eats up the road.

    That’s just something people make up to explain why they were such morons as to drive in a nor’easter’ without snowchains.

    #911862
    squeak
    Participant

    “p185/ 65 R14”

    Ahh, now I see the problem. Of course you can’t drive a pinwheel in snow at any decent speed. So you’re problem might be that you need to get a snow car, not snow chains for your “car”.

    #911863
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Ooooh. I’ll have you know my front wheel drive civic does just fine in the snow.

    And, I also quote myself: “Instead of criticizing, why don’t you be helpful and suggest a tire chain.

    Also a down comforter set. I think I’m nesting.”

    #911864
    squeak
    Participant

    Once you’re done quoting yourself, you can move on to quoting more worthwhile comments, such as my first in this thread :p

    #911865
    squeak
    Participant

    popa_bar_abba

    Instead of criticizing, why don’t you be helpful and suggest a tire chain.

    I wouldn’t dare suggest a tire chain. As always, consult your LLM (local licensed mechanic). You shouldn’t accept a ruling from CR lay folk.

    #911866
    amichai
    Participant

    are you expecting snow in the near future popa/ why not come to jerusalem in the winter?

    #911867
    dash™
    Participant

    So then should I get for all 4 wheels, or only for the drive wheels.

    On a vehicle only drive wheels should have chains.

    They are size p185/ 65 R14

    You’ll need chains sized specifically for your tires. Check with the manufacturer, most passenger cars require S.A.E Class “S” chains but some cannot use any chains at all. At 14″ you probably won’t find much of a variety.

    #911868
    twisted
    Participant

    I have very little problems with snow at present, but while in NY, I found a type of steel cable that laid zig-zag over the tire, and they had steel cleats crimped on here and there. They were a much smoother and quieter ride than chains. I used them only. twice, once, a trip to JFK and back in 8 inches with no probs on my not so agile Ford E350 with 75R16s. They would probably not lasted as long as chain, but why make it a habit to drive in heavy snow?

    #911869
    ED IT OR
    Participant

    make sure you put chains on all four wheels, otherwise you may as well just put slicks on the back, which is good fun in the snow but may not have such a happy ending,

    so either no chains or all wheels chained!

    anyway I wouldn’t drive in a foot of snow in a civic with chains or without

    at that A CIVIC! pba I’m sure you can do better

    #911870
    Health
    Participant

    In NY I think it’s against the law to ride around all the time with chains as opposed to Chicago where PBA resides now.

    And anyway chains would do you no good in a blizzard like we had in the NY area in Dec. of 2010.

    #911871
    yaakov doe
    Participant

    I’ve been trying to sell a 35 year unused set of chains on Craigs list during the past few winters with no response. They were bought for 235/75/15 tires and never used. I list them in the dead of winter and get no responses.

    Very few places sell tire chains these days.

    #911872

    State-by-state laws re: usage of snow chains:

    http://www.witruck.org/state_chain_laws.pdf

    Snow chains go on drive wheels only.

    Maximum speed for a vehicle with tire chains is greatly reduced. If you will be driving on highways – even local ones – unless you can do a max of about 30 mph safely, you shouldn’t have them on your tires.

    An improperly fastened chain, or one that breaks, can damage your car and be unsafe.

    If the streets are clear and your only concern is getting into and out of parking spots, I don’t recommend chains. On clear roads, they will actually reduce your traction. They should only be used if the roads themselves are snowy/slippery. If the roads are bad, you probably should avoid diving anyway, if possible.

    The heavier your vehicle, the more chains will help. A garbage truck or city bus will have their traction improved far more than a lightweight car will.

    Speak to your mechanic instead of relying on anonymous posters for safe driving info. Yes, I include myself in “anonymous posters”.

    #911873
    yitayningwut
    Participant

    Hey what’s with the Civic bashing? Civics are awesome!

    That being said, I bashed mine yesterday… 🙁

    #911874
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Health: They are not illegal during the winter in NY or IL.

    Also, why would you try to tell people where I live? I don’t try to spill your personal life. (And especially since you are incorrect.)

    #911875
    yentingyenta
    Participant

    in NJ snow chains are legal nov 15-april 1. never saw a single person w/ them…..

    #911876
    Think first
    Member

    Pba


    you may want to look into snow tires instead of chain. You can leave them on all winter even on dry pavement they’re fine where and there are snow tires that do quite an amazing job.

    Checkout tirerack.com for different options and u can also read testimonials from people who have used them, personally I’m looking into the blizzak ws70 made by bridgestone which I’ve heard only good things about.

    #911877
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Snow tires don’t do as well on wet or dry pavement as all weather tires, but they do much better on snow as far as skidding.

    However, as far as getting stuck in deep snow, I don’t know that snow tires are that much better. That’s why I want snow chains or cables.

    And by blazes I’m agonna get em. And down comforters.

    #911878
    Health
    Participant

    PBA – I just use all -weather tires. Much better traction in all conditions. As far as getting stuck, I really don’t know where you live, but in the NY, NJ area we don’t get that much snow to be concerned about getting stuck.

    Also, like you wouldn’t need them in a city like Montreal -the city even plows the sidewalk for you. If you do live in the states and the city/town don’t put much money into snow removal -it depends. If they hardly ever plow -chains won’t make a difference because the car will just get stuck from the bottom. Snow tires/chains aren’t snow shoes -you still have to clear the chasis to drive. But if they actually do plow and you are just scared to get stuck in some drift or something like that -this is what I do. I have a shovel and some kitty litter. You dig a little and you place the cat litter down for traction and then you drive out by rocking. Never floor it that your wheels spin.

    #911879
    Think first
    Member

    Pba—

    The snow tires I’m talking about, u can ride in a foot of snow no problem.

    #911880
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Think first: you can? Still, I found cables for 40 buck, and there’s a limit to how much you can spend on toys for a 14 year old civic. Blazes, my civic is almost old enough to date according to NASI.

    Health: I seem to recall some pretty serious storms last year. And the year before. Like this: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=79196

    #911881
    Health
    Participant

    PBA -Here in Lakewood -it took a good few days before they even plowed after the blizzard last year. Noone could go anywhere, but after they plowed -I had no problem. A shovel & kitty litter is all that you need. If you really need to get around buy an ATV or a snowmobile. If I ever had the money I’d buy one of those amphibious vehicles.

    #911882
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Blazes, my civic is almost old enough to date according to NASI.

    I still want tire chains. If my wife is reading this, that’s what I want for chanuka.

    And latkes.

    #911883

    You are better off investing in a decent set of snow tires. I think snow tires will give you better traction in different depths of snow on the road. Also snow tires grip the black ice well, and may reduce the potential of skidding. I am writing this from personal experience of having owned a set over five years ago. I was living in an area that receives many feet of snowfall each winter. There was not one time when I felt endangered from losing my control driving with snow tires. They are somewhat expensive, but worth every penny.

    #911884
    yehudayona
    Participant

    Putting latkes under your tires will probably make traction even worse due to the lubricating properties of the oil.

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