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May 13, 2009 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #645345squeakParticipant
Maybe you’re thinking of Castro.
May 13, 2009 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #645346YW Moderator-39Memberoomis is correct. Churchill always had a cigarette in a holder
May 13, 2009 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #645347chaimsmomMemberChurchill smoked cigars. From his bio on Wikipedia “In 1895, Churchill travelled to Cuba to observe the Spanish fight the Cuban guerrillas; he had obtained a commission to write about the conflict from the Daily Graphic. To his delight, he came under fire for the first time on his twenty-first birthday.[27] He had fond memories of Cuba as a “…large, rich, beautiful island…”[30] While there, he soon acquired a taste for Havana cigars, which he would smoke for the rest of his life.”
May 13, 2009 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #645348chaimsmomMemberFDR always had a cigarette holder.
May 13, 2009 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #645349areivimzehlazehParticipantthe classic image is a CIGAR hanging out of the side of his mouth, no? But I didn’t think that one picture should prove across the board
May 14, 2009 12:01 am at 12:01 am #645350JaxMemberchaimsmom: welcome back to the cr, it’s beem a while since your last visit 7months ago!
May 14, 2009 1:41 am at 1:41 am #645351oomisParticipantthe classic image is a CIGAR hanging out of the side of his mouth, no? But I didn’t think that one picture should prove across the board
Yep, that’s the one I had in my memory bank.
May 14, 2009 1:58 am at 1:58 am #645352JaxMemberoomis1105: you sure you don’t know, Churchill personally from way way back?!
May 14, 2009 3:08 am at 3:08 am #645353oomisParticipant“oomis1105: you sure you don’t know, Churchill personally from way way back?! “
Jax, although it is widely known that I rode to school on my pet Brontosaurus, nevertheless, I did not have that aforementioned pleasure which you mentioned. 😉
May 14, 2009 3:13 am at 3:13 am #645354JaxMemberoomis1105: what a shame!
May 14, 2009 3:42 am at 3:42 am #645355anonymisssParticipantjax and oomis, lol!
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May 14, 2009 2:09 pm at 2:09 pm #645356noitallmrParticipantThey say that Churchill never smoked his cigar- just left it hanging in his mouth…maybe he liked the smell.
But I’m wondering do you think it would have affected his Shidduchim if he didn’t actually smoke it???
May 14, 2009 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #645357blahblahParticipantgetting back on topic all those people that say that its impossible to quit think how many fathers of familys you know that smoke
May 14, 2009 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #645358areivimzehlazehParticipantI know too many fathers that have tried stopping, but were never able to permanently keep off of it
May 14, 2009 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #645360oomisParticipantI know too many fathers that have tried stopping, but were never able to permanently keep off of it
And that is precisely why I will not allow my kids to be redd shidduchim with smokers. It is too hard to ensure that a smoker will quit, no matter what he promises. I don’t need a pregnant daughter to be around this, or for my grandchildren’s lungs to be damaged by an addicted father (VERY powerful addiction) who is too selfish to put their welfare 100% ahead of his own pleasure.
I know that to some people here (smokers), I come off as very strident in this area. I have good reasons for feeling as I do, I have seen what cigarettes can do to someone, and even if (as most younger people tend to do) anyone thinks it cannot happen to him, the price you pay for smoking is way more than just a few dollars. And more than that, your loved ones pay even more than you do, because they have to live with the repercussions of your decision to keep smoking. Young people also get lung cancer, lip and throat cancer, emphysema, heart disease, stroke, and stomach cancer, all of which can be directly attributed to the carcinogens in smoke tobacco. Plus, nicotine is an addictive substance that causes painful withdrawal symptoms. Why would anyone want to use a product that seriously damages him when used exactly as directed?
May 14, 2009 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #645361blahblahParticipantwe all are aware of the dangers of smoking the point im trying to make here is that most people stop smoking either when they get married or have a baby
May 15, 2009 6:45 am at 6:45 am #645362GoldieLoxxMemberthink a smoking guy would specifically want a girl who would light up with him? i think that’d be way cool
May 15, 2009 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #645363oomisParticipantwe all are aware of the dangers of smoking the point im trying to make here is that most people stop smoking either when they get married or have a baby
That’s not true, and I think deep down you know it. They may APPEAR to stop, or TRY to stop, but they don’t stop, most of the time. It is simply naive to believe otherwise. Smokers are like alcoholics who get behind the wheel. They hurt themselves and potentially hurt others.
May 15, 2009 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #645364moish01Memberoomis, i’m trying really hard not to take this personally… 😉
May 15, 2009 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #645365oomisParticipantPLease DO take it personally, Moish. I think highly enough of you that I want you to be around for 120 years in good health. This is one of those issues that get me on a soapbox.
May 15, 2009 4:14 pm at 4:14 pm #645366blahblahParticipantyou didnt answer the question how many smokers dou you know?
May 15, 2009 4:28 pm at 4:28 pm #645367squeakParticipantBut according to you, it’s too late for him, no?
May 15, 2009 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #645368areivimzehlazehParticipantGoldieLoxx
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think a smoking guy would specifically want a girl who would light up with him? i think that’d be way cool
No- that’s “way” shallow
May 15, 2009 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #645369moish01Memberwow chill out! i’ll be just fine. i told you i make it sound like i’m really a smoker but it’s really not a regular thing. a cigarette here and there won’t give anyone lung cancer. chill.
May 15, 2009 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #645370an open bookParticipantjust wondering, if someone’s not addicted, why would they continue smoking? the only thing it could lead to is addiction.
May 15, 2009 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm #645371moish01Memberdid you ever try it? it’s cool. feels good for about a minute. i know i sound so stupid but who cares?
May 15, 2009 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #645372oomisParticipantMoish you want us to chill about the smoking thing. Well tell that to all the dead people who were smokers,were born to smokers, or lived with smokers. they are all quite chilled by now.
May 15, 2009 6:53 pm at 6:53 pm #645373moish01Memberyou know anyone who smoked only a couple of times a month and died from it? don’t even try to convince me.
like i said: i know it’s stupid and unhealthy and long term it can cause serious damage. but don’t tell me that two cigarettes a week will kill me. it won’t.
and if it does you win.
May 15, 2009 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #645374oomisParticipantlike i said: i know it’s stupid and unhealthy and long term it can cause serious damage. but don’t tell me that two cigarettes a week will kill me. it won’t.
and if it does you win.
I don’t think that two cigarettes a week will give you cancer, but one puff of nicotine increases your heart rate. Two puffs increase it further and elevate your blood pressure, and so on. It may seem like a little amount of smoking, but there are people who stroked out from ONE arthritis pill, that was safely prescribed for so many others. I would not want to find out the hard way that I was the one person who would be seriously adversely affected by only a couple of cigarettes a week.
And if it does, I win????? No, but someone loses, most notably the family and friends who love you. It’s not a contest Moish. I am not telling you what to do. Teenagers are famous for having the sense that they are immortal – or not really caring about the future.
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