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January 4, 2020 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #18188701Participant
Why was the siyum hashas for the Daf Yomi made on 1/1? Was it right for the agudah to put yeshivas all over in a position to have learning cut short for their siyum?
editedJanuary 5, 2020 1:45 am at 1:45 am #1818947lowerourtuition11210ParticipantWhy was the siyum hashas for the Daf Yomi made on 1/1? Since the actual end date was shabbos, they moved it back to a date when many people had off from work.
Was it right for the agudah to put yeshivas all over in a position to have learning cut short for their siyum? Yeshivas had a right t say they wouldnt attend.
January 5, 2020 6:45 am at 6:45 am #1818979JosephParticipantAny day they made it would cause Yeshivos to lose time. What difference which day as far as that point is concerned.
January 5, 2020 9:46 am at 9:46 am #18189991ParticipantThe last times siyum hashas was made in the winter, I’m pretty sure the program started at night.
January 5, 2020 10:01 am at 10:01 am #18190001ParticipantThey could’ve made the event on Motzai Shabbos.
January 5, 2020 10:01 am at 10:01 am #1819001☕️coffee addictParticipant1,
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January 5, 2020 10:45 am at 10:45 am #1819008lowerourtuition11210Participant1: Yes but they didnt have to try and outdo the 2012 event with the 2019 event. My bigger question is why did you wait until after the siyum to ask your question? Talk about being a monday morning quarterback!! Instead of askink your question here why not write your question to Rabbi Zweibel or directly to the Moetzes for a response?
January 5, 2020 11:19 am at 11:19 am #1819024JosephParticipantI can ask Rabbi Zweibel directly, if need be.
January 5, 2020 11:39 am at 11:39 am #1819062ubiquitinParticipant“Why was the siyum hashas for the Daf Yomi made on 1/1? ”
Because it was the closest date to the siyum that the stadium was available, with the added benefit that many people were off.
“Was it right for the agudah to put yeshivas all over in a position to have learning cut short for their siyum?”
Yes
January 5, 2020 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #1819068midwesternerParticipant01/01 wasn’t the last day? Oh c’mon!! Fake News!!
January 5, 2020 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm #1819078yehudayonaParticipantThank you, moderators, for editing the OP.
If you you were in traffic for #12 and #13, you’ll know why #13 was on a secular holiday. Also, as cold as it was on January 1 during the day, it would most likely have been worse at night. Motzai Shabbos is not an option for people coming from far away.January 5, 2020 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #1819084YW Moderator-29 👨💻Moderator👍🏻
January 5, 2020 1:13 pm at 1:13 pm #1819086midwesternerParticipantSaturdays and Sundays are potential playoff dates. The stadium wouldn’t have been available M”S anyway.
January 5, 2020 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #18191001ParticipantNo excuse to make yeshivas end their seder early.
January 5, 2020 2:52 pm at 2:52 pm #18191051ParticipantWho says it has to be in a football stadium?
January 5, 2020 2:53 pm at 2:53 pm #1819113flatbusherParticipantI asked that question weeks ago and got the answer about availability. It took away from the event that it wasn’t really a siyum for everyone, though people did make a seudas mitzvah on Shabbos for the REAL siyum. While I can understand the logistics involved, and why they settled on Jan. 1, since when do yidden do things out of convenience? And how much rushing of the end of niddah had to be done to make the Hadaran? It couldn’t have been real Daf Yomi, could it?
January 5, 2020 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm #18191261ParticipantMidwesterner is an apologist for Soleimani.
January 5, 2020 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #1819183lowerourtuition11210ParticipantNot the first time in the 13 siyumim that it was done before the last day of the cycle. I am pretty sure in 1982 it was a week before the actual end of the cycle. It took place on 11/14/1982.
January 5, 2020 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #1819216GadolhadorahParticipant“since when do yidden do things out of convenience? ”
Frequently. Many mitzvos are locked in to a specific time and place. There is NO explicit halacha that governs the how, when or where or a siyum for daf yomi (or any other “siyum” for that matter). If the gadolim (represented by Agudah) decide that for reasons of cost, availability, safety etc. etc. to hold the siyuum on a secular holiday, thats fine.
January 5, 2020 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #1819234JosephParticipant1 – you think there should be no Siyum altogether so that the yeshivos don’t end early?
January 5, 2020 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #18192421ParticipantJoseph – No. So it after yeshiva/morning seder at least. Have it start at 3.
January 6, 2020 7:35 am at 7:35 am #1819284ubiquitinParticipant“Who says it has to be in a football stadium?”
the size of the crowd
January 6, 2020 11:56 am at 11:56 am #1819365MDGParticipant“since when do yidden do things out of convenience? ”
When it’s a ticha d’tzibura.l, like this case.
January 12, 2020 7:55 am at 7:55 am #1821861RebbeDebbieParticipantmidwesterner: “Saturdays and Sundays are potential playoff dates. ”
We all know that neither the giants nor jets are ever going to make it in the playoffs.
January 12, 2020 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #1821960iacisrmmaParticipantSo why didn’t all you Monday Morning Quarterbacks complain to Rabbi Zweibel before the event?
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