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SHILSHI said and i quote “how can anyone drink from starbucks even now, knowing what we now know. even if more information if forthcoming, we already know there is a major problem. i dont see how its possible to drink there” and this is before the cRc has made their final desicion.
He’s right to advocate not drinking there before the cRc makes their final determination.
Daas
Shlishi was more than advocating. He said that “how can anyone drink from starbucks even now, knowing what we now know. even if more information if forthcoming, we already know there is a major problem.” it seems to me that he seems to have his mind made up that Starbucks is not kosher even without the verdict of the cRc.
daas yochid
thank you. as i indicated, cRc has raised substantial kashrus issues they’ve recently uncovered in regards to starbucks. cRc has stated they’ve found the utensils used to serve and process the coffee to be non-kosher due to their treatment in the cleaning process. it is inconceivable that someone with yiras shamayim would drink there until and unless the issue is clarified in a positive manner.
popa i dont think they are the only smicha that is meaningful but i was just wondering. maybe you shudnt always jump on people when they ask innocent questions!!
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knee-jerk emotional reactions
You mean like your post?
Popa-
It seemed mote like u were high 😀
switch to dunkin donuts. many are under hechsher. selection and taste are different but your neshoma doesn’t have to worry.
When it come to statbucksb vs. DUNKIN donuts, it is taste and selection. Go DUNKIN!
popa wheneve that happens take a stiff shot itll make u feel much better
PBA, which SBUX were you in, the Bensonhurst minyan? 🙂
It looks like the CRC webpage previously referenced is not available. If it goes back up, I will read it and then discuss it with the head of the CRC so I can be sure what they hold.
Homeowner,
I copied from that link what was there when it was up.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/sitting-in-starbucks-right-now#post-208664
Where is there a cholov yisrael Dunkin in Brooklyn/Manhattan? And what’s allowed?
dunno
only water is allowed
1dayatatime
Water is for lounges. Coffee is for Starbucks and Dunkin if I can find a cholov yisrael one.
dunno
Why dont you bring along your own CY milk,in a little bottle,then you won’t have a problem
1dayatatime
I try not to eat dairy equipment…that wouldn’t pose a problem? But really, I heard of cholov yisrael ones. Someone tell me where they are!
dunno
You try not to eat dairy equipment? Well you never really should, I mean, it can be very detrimental to your digestive system, it’s not really made for metals, plastics, and rubber
You try not to eat dairy equipment? Well you never really should, I mean, it can be very detrimental to your digestive system, it’s not really made for metals, plastics, and rubber
And even if by some odd chance dunno meant food processed on dairy equipment, most likely (I assume; someone can correct me if I’m wrong) the coffee is made on parve equipment.
dunno…dont listen to them, there are dunkin donuts in flatbush which have c’y milk. u can have tea or the fruit flavor coolatas, cause those are made with syrup that are not dairy. as far as starbucks, theres this passion flavored tea which i absolutely adore, and then theres a cinnoman spice one thats pretty yummy too….im not much of a tea drinker but i love these, and i have no choice cause i took on cy
1dayatatime
Real funny! Get serious for a minute here!
Daas Yochid
That’s why I only drink coffee (and tea) from Starbucks. There are drinks there that are parve but made in dairy equipment so I don’t have that.
And I checked the article but that dates back to ’07. I’m gonna research updates to it. Thanks though!
Yesterday I was sitting in a Starbucks when a chasidic couple came in and ordered plain brewed coffee in paper cups. They sat down at the table next to me and my friend. Then, the wife took out a bottle of Chalav Yisrael milk which they used for their coffee. (This is a common occurence at the SBUX Park Slope, but we were not in Park Slope.)
To top things off, she had an individual-serving of chocolate cheese cake which they shared with a spoon from home!
I was just wondering why one of the individually wrapped, plastic utensils that SBUX has for free wouldn not have worked for them.
“I was just wondering why one of the individually wrapped, plastic utensils that SBUX has for free wouldn not have worked for them.”
It tastes better on silverware. duh.
I guess the dichotomy of people questioning the kashruth of everything at Starbucks posed against people bringing their own utensils went right by some folks.
By the way, sacrilege, I am confident the item they were eating would not taste better if it were eaten with a Christofle spoon.
1dayatatime
“Why dont you bring along your own CY milk,in a little bottle,then you won’t have a problem”
“I try not to eat dairy equipment…that wouldn’t pose a problem?”
“That’s why I only drink coffee (and tea) from Starbucks.”
Quite Contradictory
Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see the contradiction.
Found this on a blog:
Rabbi Fishbane offered the following guidelines for kosher Starbucks customers:
Found this on a blog:
Was this said before or after the recent (Feb.) cRc alert?
Daas Yochid -Best thing to do is to contact him yourself. If you want me to guess, I’d say maybe this is the reason of the alert!
I personally never drink coffee. I once had a cup of coffee from a starbucks in one of these service areas because I was really tired. I doubt there was a problem because it looked like that’s all they served.
I do know that where I live a lot of frum people go to the starbucks and get cofee and cookies. I already posted that the cookies are treif, now there is a Shaila on their coffee.
Popa – If you want to meikel, that’s your business. You might be drinking the drip coffee. But why do you come on a public blog to show your impunity to kashrus org.? Why do you think you’re an armchair Poisek?
Basically he’s saying a latte is treif. You posting your kulos for someone who doesn’t know intracasies -might cause someone to drink this. By coming here and gloating, you might be oiver – l’fnei michshol!
Meanwhile, enjoy your coffee, and if you ever figure out that it was treif, you can always do teshuva.
Popa – What?-you think everyone knows the difference between types (espressos, lattes, etc.)?
I’m not so sure myself what every different type is.
Every drop counts, even after 5 hours when it comes to Timtum Halev!
Did they clean the keilim since your last visit?
??? ?????? ?????
So you’re drinking bottled water but not paying for it?
Do you know if the cleaning agents they used to clean that is kosher?
No, I’m drinking from the toilet.
So the issur you’re being oiver on is not b’heimah t’meiah or gezel aku”m, but rather, bal t’shaktzu.
Do they clean it together with the coffee machines?
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