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  • #756617
    popa_bar_abba
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    popa- were you really there all those hrs.? what in the world were you doing there???

    Yes. I was doing work. Whatever my work is.

    Will you continue drinking starbucks?

    I intend to continue drinking until someone says I cannot. Especially in light of my investigation yesterday.

    So is this thread ment as a public decleration of youre aveiros, becuase you dont sound very sory.

    So, you don’t know how to spell. I don’t complain about you.

    #756618
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    SHILSHI said and i quote “how can anyone drink from starbucks even now, knowing what we now know. even if more information if forthcoming, we already know there is a major problem. i dont see how its possible to drink there” and this is before the cRc has made their final desicion.

    He’s right to advocate not drinking there before the cRc makes their final determination.

    #756619
    Shmuel294
    Member

    Daas

    Shlishi was more than advocating. He said that “how can anyone drink from starbucks even now, knowing what we now know. even if more information if forthcoming, we already know there is a major problem.” it seems to me that he seems to have his mind made up that Starbucks is not kosher even without the verdict of the cRc.

    #756621
    shlishi
    Member

    daas yochid

    thank you. as i indicated, cRc has raised substantial kashrus issues they’ve recently uncovered in regards to starbucks. cRc has stated they’ve found the utensils used to serve and process the coffee to be non-kosher due to their treatment in the cleaning process. it is inconceivable that someone with yiras shamayim would drink there until and unless the issue is clarified in a positive manner.

    #756622

    popa i dont think they are the only smicha that is meaningful but i was just wondering. maybe you shudnt always jump on people when they ask innocent questions!!

    :….(

    #756623
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    knee-jerk emotional reactions

    You mean like your post?

    #756625
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    chayav:

    I was just in an obnoxious mood yesterday, as most of my posts showed. I was kidding.

    #756626
    Shmuel294
    Member

    Popa-

    It seemed mote like u were high 😀

    #756627
    winny1
    Participant

    switch to dunkin donuts. many are under hechsher. selection and taste are different but your neshoma doesn’t have to worry.

    #756628
    Shmuel294
    Member

    When it come to statbucksb vs. DUNKIN donuts, it is taste and selection. Go DUNKIN!

    #756629

    popa wheneve that happens take a stiff shot itll make u feel much better

    #756630
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    You should see what I’m like when I’ve been drinking.

    #756631
    Homeowner
    Member

    PBA, which SBUX were you in, the Bensonhurst minyan? 🙂

    It looks like the CRC webpage previously referenced is not available. If it goes back up, I will read it and then discuss it with the head of the CRC so I can be sure what they hold.

    #756632
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Homeowner,

    I copied from that link what was there when it was up.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/sitting-in-starbucks-right-now#post-208664

    #756633
    dunno
    Member

    Where is there a cholov yisrael Dunkin in Brooklyn/Manhattan? And what’s allowed?

    #756634
    1dayatatime
    Participant

    dunno

    only water is allowed

    #756635
    dunno
    Member

    1dayatatime

    Water is for lounges. Coffee is for Starbucks and Dunkin if I can find a cholov yisrael one.

    #756636
    1dayatatime
    Participant

    dunno

    Why dont you bring along your own CY milk,in a little bottle,then you won’t have a problem

    #756637
    dunno
    Member

    1dayatatime

    I try not to eat dairy equipment…that wouldn’t pose a problem? But really, I heard of cholov yisrael ones. Someone tell me where they are!

    #756638
    1dayatatime
    Participant

    dunno

    You try not to eat dairy equipment? Well you never really should, I mean, it can be very detrimental to your digestive system, it’s not really made for metals, plastics, and rubber

    #756639
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    You try not to eat dairy equipment? Well you never really should, I mean, it can be very detrimental to your digestive system, it’s not really made for metals, plastics, and rubber

    And even if by some odd chance dunno meant food processed on dairy equipment, most likely (I assume; someone can correct me if I’m wrong) the coffee is made on parve equipment.

    #756640
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant
    #756642
    cshapiro
    Member

    dunno…dont listen to them, there are dunkin donuts in flatbush which have c’y milk. u can have tea or the fruit flavor coolatas, cause those are made with syrup that are not dairy. as far as starbucks, theres this passion flavored tea which i absolutely adore, and then theres a cinnoman spice one thats pretty yummy too….im not much of a tea drinker but i love these, and i have no choice cause i took on cy

    #756643
    dunno
    Member

    1dayatatime

    Real funny! Get serious for a minute here!

    Daas Yochid

    That’s why I only drink coffee (and tea) from Starbucks. There are drinks there that are parve but made in dairy equipment so I don’t have that.

    And I checked the article but that dates back to ’07. I’m gonna research updates to it. Thanks though!

    #756645
    Homeowner
    Member

    Yesterday I was sitting in a Starbucks when a chasidic couple came in and ordered plain brewed coffee in paper cups. They sat down at the table next to me and my friend. Then, the wife took out a bottle of Chalav Yisrael milk which they used for their coffee. (This is a common occurence at the SBUX Park Slope, but we were not in Park Slope.)

    To top things off, she had an individual-serving of chocolate cheese cake which they shared with a spoon from home!

    I was just wondering why one of the individually wrapped, plastic utensils that SBUX has for free wouldn not have worked for them.

    #756646
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Homeowner:

    I am confused. So they brought a spoon.

    Maybe they didn’t know there were spoons. Maybe they thought they couldn’t take one because they were only buying drinks, not food.

    #756647
    Sacrilege
    Member

    “I was just wondering why one of the individually wrapped, plastic utensils that SBUX has for free wouldn not have worked for them.”

    It tastes better on silverware. duh.

    #756648
    Homeowner
    Member

    I guess the dichotomy of people questioning the kashruth of everything at Starbucks posed against people bringing their own utensils went right by some folks.

    By the way, sacrilege, I am confident the item they were eating would not taste better if it were eaten with a Christofle spoon.

    #756649
    dunno
    Member

    1dayatatime

    “Why dont you bring along your own CY milk,in a little bottle,then you won’t have a problem”

    “I try not to eat dairy equipment…that wouldn’t pose a problem?”

    “That’s why I only drink coffee (and tea) from Starbucks.”

    Quite Contradictory

    Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see the contradiction.

    #756650
    Health
    Participant

    Found this on a blog:

    Rabbi Fishbane offered the following guidelines for kosher Starbucks customers:

    #756651
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Found this on a blog:

    Was this said before or after the recent (Feb.) cRc alert?

    #756652
    Health
    Participant

    Daas Yochid -Best thing to do is to contact him yourself. If you want me to guess, I’d say maybe this is the reason of the alert!

    I personally never drink coffee. I once had a cup of coffee from a starbucks in one of these service areas because I was really tired. I doubt there was a problem because it looked like that’s all they served.

    I do know that where I live a lot of frum people go to the starbucks and get cofee and cookies. I already posted that the cookies are treif, now there is a Shaila on their coffee.

    #756653
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I’m in starbucks again, and drinking coffee again.

    I have meanwhile heard that it is actually the drip cone which is the problem, so I will ask later if they wash that by hand also like the carafe’s.

    In any event, it is irui like I noted last week, and klipa’s are muttar bdieved when they are nivlal.

    But maybe we should be concerned for the opinion that kli sheini is maflit or mavlia. So it could have been mavlia the tarfus through irui in the washing machine and now be maflit it into my coffee. Hmmmm. I’m too busy to think about these things right now. I’ll check back in if something occurs to me.

    #756654
    Health
    Participant

    Popa – If you want to meikel, that’s your business. You might be drinking the drip coffee. But why do you come on a public blog to show your impunity to kashrus org.? Why do you think you’re an armchair Poisek?

    Basically he’s saying a latte is treif. You posting your kulos for someone who doesn’t know intracasies -might cause someone to drink this. By coming here and gloating, you might be oiver – l’fnei michshol!

    #756655
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Meanwhile, enjoy your coffee, and if you ever figure out that it was treif, you can always do teshuva.

    #756656
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Health: Don’t be ridiculous.

    #756657
    Health
    Participant

    Popa – What?-you think everyone knows the difference between types (espressos, lattes, etc.)?

    I’m not so sure myself what every different type is.

    #756658
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I can’t tell the difference between the coffee and the sandwiches, so when I order, I always ask if it is a coffee or a sandwich.

    #756659
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I’m leaving now. I won’t sit in this trief store for one more minute!

    #756660
    Health
    Participant

    Every drop counts, even after 5 hours when it comes to Timtum Halev!

    #756661
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Just want to bump this up now, in expectation of being there bright and early tomorrow morning.

    #756662
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Ok. I’m here again. Drinking starbucks in the CR.

    ??? ?????? ?????

    #756663
    canine
    Member

    Did they clean the keilim since your last visit?

    #756664
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    When I asked, the said, “are you out of your ?????”.

    #756665
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    ??? ?????? ?????

    So you’re drinking bottled water but not paying for it?

    #756666
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    No, I’m drinking from the toilet.

    #756667
    canine
    Member

    Do you know if the cleaning agents they used to clean that is kosher?

    #756668
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Do you know if the cleaning agents they used to clean that is kosher?

    They don’t have cleaning agents. The regular agents (barista’s?) do the cleaning.

    #756669
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    No, I’m drinking from the toilet.

    So the issur you’re being oiver on is not b’heimah t’meiah or gezel aku”m, but rather, bal t’shaktzu.

    #756670
    canine
    Member

    Do they clean it together with the coffee machines?

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