Single parents.

So non-Jewish.

An anonymous father can have serious consequences. The kid can never marry because the father might be Jewish so anyone might be a relative.

And is there no issurim for a Jewish woman to have a child with a non-Jewish father?

They give you information about the donors, so you can get from a jewish donor I assume.

You said the donor is anonymous. So Mod-42’s issue still exists. The child doesn’t know who his father is and thus cannot marry.

popa – so what? test tube babies still have a biological father.

If he is anonymous, can they tell you whether the donor is Jewish? What if he is a mamzer, can they tell you that?

A gut voch.

PBA, is this another one of your Motza’ay Shabbos ideas?

I personally know someone who has done this. Twice. With the haskama of rabbonim in E”Y.

She didn’t believe she would ever get married (she was around 40), and she wanted children, but she also is frum and would not consider anything that was “nisht kosher.” She asked a shailah of Daas Torah, was told there is no issur, and with a non-Jewish donor in a fertility clinic there was no potential inyan of her children chalilah marrying their own siblings by accident someday. Some years after having both children, she actually met someone and got married a couple of years ago, but too old to have more children at that point. The issur is l’chatchilah to marry a non-Jew, but b’dieved the child born of such a union (if the mom is Jewish), is also Jewish, and there is no taint of mamzerus. Osnat bore a child by Shechem, and that child was married to Yosef.

The bearing of a child out of wedlock, is typically stigmatized because of the non-tzniusdig actions of the mother and father that led to the pregnancy. If no such activity took place, there were no violations of the laws of tznius or taharas hamishpacha.

Popa – Whats with these threads you are starting tonight?

PBA, is this another one of your Motza’ay Shabbos ideas?

I think it’s the Havdalah Wine.

JMO~ 1) 7th graders shouldn’t be in the CR. 2) 7th graders shouldn’t be up, awake, & on the internet @ 2:12AM. ..JMO

a mamin:

Might I remind you, I just finished first. Teacher taught how to spell “here”. But you’re right – it’s not such a desirous topic.

Always:

I got permission tonight. All night long. Yippee!

Popa-

I dont know what you ate today that made you come up with all these ideas…

All I have to say is poor kid. At some point in its life, it will find out either that it has a goyish father or that it can’t marry for fear that it might marry its sibling. And thats besides from the issues it may have from growing up without a father.

I would think that a woman in her mid to late thirties would rather settle on marrying a guy who was not her ideal, than to do that to her child.

Theres gotta be a different solution to the shidduch crises. For some reason I dont think this is it

Why not adopt? Or become a foster parent to children who desperately need a parent? Does she want to raise children, or does she feel that she must have the experience of carrying a child and actually giving birth to it?

Either of the two suggested options will fulfill her desire to be a parent AND be (potentially) beneficial to the child/ren, whereas going the OP’s route will create problems for everyone.

The desire is not illegitimate, nor will the child be.

I said her desire to have children biologically would create problems, but I did not attach any adjectives to my description.

It pains me to read this post. Is this what we are coming to? My heart goes out for many of these unmarried girls, many of whom were not even given a fair chance except being labeled as picky or don’t know what they are looking for, without even haven ever spoken to them. I hope some shaddchanim out there who so easily make nothing of some of these girls are reading this post.

I am sure that many of these girls would be excellent mothers, some even better than some mothers who do have a husband, yet i hope they will be mothers in the way Hashem created the world to bring children into this world!

Forget being stigmatized. As difficult as the situation is for the woman, I think that it would pretty selfish to knowingly bring a child into the world who will not have a father.

What gives her a right to satisfy her urge? Her wanting it is not a license.

Even if Mutter, it’s definitely Ossur to spread this around. So now more women won’t find any need to get married and be Oiver the Issur in S’A!

You’re just contridicting yourself.

oomis I feel that you’re comment is not realistic. It is not one person who will stigmatize such a child but the community as a whole. Divorce and death are common and natural situations where a child might lose a parent. There are thousands of such cases within the frum community world wide and even they come with at least a minimal amount of stigma. But children of extra-marital pregnancy by anonymous fathers would understand the events surrounding their conception to be entirely abnormal and become stigmatized on their own. Especially in a family oriented community like ours.

And is fulfilling biological urges a valid reason for anything? If men would fulfill their biological urges, Father’s Day would by quite confusing. As it is for other races. Is that acceptable?

Bezalel – “You’re just contridicting yourself.”

Let me see, I really don’t think there is a contradiction. I’ll explain to ones who don’t understand – Even if a single woman finds a Heter to have children without marriage, and this Heter is Ousgehalten, people should not spread this around because this will cause some women to lose some of their desire or all of their desire to get married. Because now they have another way to have kids!

poor child.

A woman was willing to go through whatever it would take, face all kinds of possible ostracism, just to have a child. Can you imagine how much that child is loved? Poor child? Lucky child!