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February 20, 2012 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #602135YehudahTzviParticipant
My best friend lives in a small community. The only shul is Chabad. he is not, but davens there because there is no other option. My friend confided in me that the Rabbi there is a Meshichist. He believes that Moshiach can come from the dead and that the Rebbe will return.
Is it assur to daven there? This seems to me to be very problematic. Or am I overreacting?
February 20, 2012 8:42 pm at 8:42 pm #853413ED IT ORParticipantboruch rofei cholim on ur friend
February 20, 2012 9:11 pm at 9:11 pm #853414☕️coffee addictParticipantThis is a very tough shayloh,
My ry holds its assur
February 20, 2012 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm #853415WolfishMusingsParticipantIs it assur to daven there?
Have your friend ask a rav.
The Wolf
February 20, 2012 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm #853416artchillParticipantAsked the shaila myself.
There is a third group called “Elo-k-istim” who believe that not only the rebbe Moshiach, he is domeh to Hashem himself.
If the rabbi is a Meshichist most reliable Litvish poskim agree that though the Meshichist might be delusional or kookoo, there’s no problem.
Meshichist= No Problem Elo-K-ist=PROBLEM
February 21, 2012 12:55 am at 12:55 am #853417longarekelMemberWhat artchill said. But be careful. If he’s messianic he might be the other type but just isn’t saying. Tell your friend to stay away from there. Such people can have a negative affect without a person realizing it. Im shonim al tisarav.
February 21, 2012 3:22 am at 3:22 am #853418No One Mourns The WickedMember“He believes that Moshiach can come from the dead and that the Rebbe will return.”
Come from the dead?! He never died!!!
*Smirking*
February 21, 2012 6:32 am at 6:32 am #853419HaLeiViParticipantReferring to the Boreyistin as if it is a trend witrhin Chabad is as valid as pointing out McVeigh in a discussion about Muslim Terrorism.
February 22, 2012 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #853420HaLeiViParticipantThe same narrow-mindedness and predetermined judgement that is at work against Jews is used amongst Jews against the Frum, and amongst Frum against …
February 22, 2012 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #853421YehudahTzviParticipantHaLeiVi: Forgive me but I do not understand either of your posts. Would you mind explaining?
February 22, 2012 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm #853422HaLeiViParticipantThere are fools that like throwing “McVeigh” at anyone that tries discussing Muslim Terrorism. When you answer them that he was one and we’re talking about more than one, they’ll tell you that more and less doesn’t qualify calling it a Muslim concept. The real answer is that McVeigh was an individual and not part of an organization. Moreover, his ideas were born from his own ideocy, not Americanism.
Same here. If an individual or two said something stupid that is no reason to claim the idea as belonging to the larger group. It is his idea. It never grew larger.
The only reason people connect it is because they already have complaints against Chabad and are more than ready to jump on anything and say, “see!?” When you already believe the worst it is not a leap to get confirmation from anything insignificant.
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