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July 3, 2016 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #617917JosephParticipant
Not that there’s anything wrong with Starbucks (the ones that are kosher). But it isn’t any better than the Taster’s Choice in shul.
July 3, 2016 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #1158600☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI wouldn’t know, but the coffee I make at home is definitely better than Taster’s Choice.
July 3, 2016 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #1158601JosephParticipantWhat coffee do you make at home?
July 3, 2016 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #1158602☕️coffee addictParticipantI don’t know, I never had Starbucks coffee
July 3, 2016 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #1158603☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhat coffee do you make at home?
Lavazza and Gevalia.
I buy through Amazon Subscribe & Save, so it’s not that expensive.
July 3, 2016 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #1158604☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCA: With a screen name like that, who’d have imagined?
July 3, 2016 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #1158605JosephParticipantDid you ever have shul coffee?
July 3, 2016 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm #1158606☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantYes.
July 3, 2016 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #1158607theprof1ParticipantAT HOME NOW I HAVE GEVALIA. BEST COFFEE. I ALSO USE FOLGERS DECAF, REALLY GOOD. STARBUX IS WAY WAY OVERATED. DUNKIN IS MUCH BETTER. IN SHUL, ALL SHULS US THE SAME COFFEE, ITS GOOD. TASTERS CHOICE HOME BLEND.
July 3, 2016 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #1158608JosephParticipantI like Taster’s Choice better than Gevalia.
July 3, 2016 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #1158609☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWhich Taster’s Choice, which Gevalia?
July 3, 2016 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #1158610JosephParticipantRegular caffinated, unflavored, in both cases.
July 3, 2016 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #1158611blubluhParticipantIn the shul belong to, instant coffee (and tea, etc) is offered without charge (though, there’s a sign requesting “donations” by a wall-mounted lock box and the provided disposable cups are just 7oz).
So, I suppose the price and convenient location make it “better” than the offerings at the local barista.
As for ratings of flavor or other qualities, I’ll leave that to the connoisseurs.
July 3, 2016 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #1158612☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantRegular means House Blend?
The prof1: Folgers is awful.
The best decaf IMO is Dunkin’, but their regular, though good, is not as good as Gevalia (I like many varieties but usually get the House Blend) or Lavazza (I get the Crema e Gusto).
July 3, 2016 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1158613JosephParticipantHouse Blend sounds correct. The most common regular on the shelf.
July 3, 2016 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #1158614☕️coffee addictParticipantYes, I’ve had shul coffee, it’s been four months since then but I remember putting a lot of sugar in it
July 3, 2016 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #1158615Ex-CTLawyerParticipantMany years ago (40+)when I was a young married, we joined the shul in our neighborhood and I started to attend morning minyan. The shammos served coffee after minyan. It was the most vile liquid I had ever tasted.
I asked a friend what was going on. I was told that the shammos took the leftover coffee from the Sunday morning men’s club breakfast and reheated it and served it all week. (this was the same shammos who would dry his teabag in a shot glass and reuse it all week…old habits from days of deprivation during the war die slowly).
I left for work and asked the office manager for the number of the coffee service we used in our break room. I called and arranged for a coffee maker to be installed in the shul kitchen and ordered a case of coffee, filters, cups and stirrers to be delivered each month.
It’s more than 4 decades later and I still pay the bill with pleasure, and I enjoy every cup I have after minyan.
July 3, 2016 6:31 pm at 6:31 pm #1158616☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThat’s very nice of you.
How is Mrs. CT doing?
July 3, 2016 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #1158617Ex-CTLawyerParticipantB”H Mrs. CTLawyer returned home from the hospital after more than three weeks on life support in ICU. Her recovery is slow but steady. She even drove a few minutes this week. More surgeries coming, but with G-d’s help she will recover 90+ %.
Baruch Hashem! Thank you for sharing good news, may it only continue. -29
July 3, 2016 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #1158618yehudayonaParticipant“All shuls use the same coffee?!” Have you been to all shuls? The shul I daven at uses fresh brewed coffee. They used to use instant during Pesach, but as of a couple of years ago, they got a machine for Pesach. It’s as good as what I make at home. No idea how it compares to Starbucks, since I’m not willing to spend $4 for a cup of coffee in a treif restaurant.
July 4, 2016 1:14 am at 1:14 am #1158619popa_bar_abbaParticipantStarbucks is not the end-all.
But comparing instant-coffee to brewed, is ridiculous.
July 4, 2016 1:18 am at 1:18 am #1158620👑RebYidd23ParticipantI prefer instant. Once I’m breaking the rules of good coffee, I can go crazy and add instant tea and chocolate extract if I want to. I never do, but I could.
July 4, 2016 1:18 am at 1:18 am #1158621☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBut comparing instant-coffee to brewed, is ridiculous.
Except Via. That is excellent, and comparable to decent brewed coffee.
July 4, 2016 3:48 am at 3:48 am #1158622MDGParticipant“Except Via”
Via is part pulverized coffee grounds, so you really get some fresh brewed coffee.
Being that some of the coffee was not cooked already, it may present some issues on Shabbat. CYLOR.
July 4, 2016 3:55 am at 3:55 am #1158623MDGParticipantIn my shul, there is freshly brewed coffee every morning, usually Starbucks sometimes Peets. That’s my incentive to help me come early and learn.
I’m the one who buys it and makes it.
July 4, 2016 4:18 am at 4:18 am #1158624☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantBeing that some of the coffee was not cooked already, it may present some issues on Shabbat. CYLOR.
I have.
The information I have is that it’s all undergone some type of cooking process, even if some is not brewed.
I was told to use irui kli sheini, which has the din of kli shlishi.
July 4, 2016 6:17 am at 6:17 am #1158625–ParticipantThe information I have is that it’s all undergone some type of cooking process, even if some is not brewed.
The patents (US8114457,US8114458,US8114459) describe a process where not all of the microground coffee is “cooked”.
I’m not sure why there are three different patents, they seem to be the same.
July 4, 2016 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm #1158626theprof1Participantwell excuse me if your uppity shul has brewed coffee. shuls that offer free coffee buy nestles tasters choice house blend because it generally the cheapest available.
in general, the concept of which is best can’t be considered since taste is not a debatable issue. anybody here can attest to their own taste. the issue was coffee in shul, which i had stated was tasters choice house blend.
July 4, 2016 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1158627Ex-CTLawyerParticipantI take great offense at you calling all shuls uppity if they use/serve brewed coffee.
Lots of us are old enough to remember when instant coffee was much more expensive than brewed coffee. Shuls could easily brew 40 cups from a 99 cent one pound can of Maxwell House…and accumulate free haggados.
I’ve never belonged to a shul that served instant coffee on any kind of a regular basis. That said, they do keep a jar of instant decaf in our shul…I’ve never seen it used and think it must belong to the sisterhood, not the shul itself.
July 4, 2016 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #1158628yehudayonaParticipanttheprof1, Taster’s Choice is one of the more expensive and one of the better tasting instant coffees. Clearly, whoever buys coffee at your shul (which I maintain is not every shul, since at least three people in this thread say their shul has fresh brewed coffee) has some rachmanus — he could easily have bought worse instant coffee.
While taste is all a matter of taste, I think you’ll find most coffee drinkers prefer brewed coffee to instant coffee.
July 4, 2016 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #1158629MDGParticipant“well excuse me if your uppity shul has brewed coffee….”
If that was directed to me, I can say that I am proud to serve it. But I am the one who started the coffee table, paid for the equipment, supplies, and ingredients (minus a few occasional sponsorships). I am the one who gets there early to brew it and sometimes serve it cup by cup.
July 4, 2016 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm #1158630theprof1Participantground coffe has long ago gone away from 69 cent a lb. instant coffee is so much cheaper. a shul that serves brewed coffee is uppity, showing it can afford expensive coffee. i do know one very orthodox shul that has a keuring, it was donated. one member has a k-cup business and dnates all the k-cups. so that coffee is for free.
July 4, 2016 4:03 pm at 4:03 pm #1158631Ex-CTLawyerParticipant@MDG………
Kudos to you.
As my earlier post stated I undertook the expense and responsibility for our shul’s coffee service more than 40 years ago.
I used to do the brewing and setup as well, but that task has fallen to my 2nd oldest son in the past 10 years.
July 4, 2016 8:02 pm at 8:02 pm #1158632yehudayonaParticipantA back of the envelope calculation gets me 10 cents per 8 ounce cup for Tasters Choice and 15 cents per 8 ounce cup for middlebrow brewed coffee. Also, in both MDG’s shul and CTL’s shul, the coffee is donated by a generous congregant (I suspect that’s also the case in my shul). So I think it’s mean spirited to refer to shuls that have a higher coffee standard than yours as “uppity.”
July 4, 2016 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #1158633apushatayidParticipant“shuls that offer free coffee buy nestles tasters choice house blend because it generally the cheapest available.”
Great Value (Walmart house brand) instant coffee is half the price (almost), those uppidty shuls by tasters choice!??!
July 4, 2016 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #1158634apushatayidParticipantMy shul has both fresh brewed (Kirkland regular flavor) and instant (Tastles). Both provide the needed caffeine kick at 5am.
July 5, 2016 2:32 am at 2:32 am #1158635MDGParticipant“I was told to use irui kli sheini, which has the din of kli shlishi. “
My impression is that there is no cooking in a kli sheni (unless for things that cook very easily like tea). Besides which, the instant coffee is already cooked, so there is no more bishul.
July 5, 2016 3:10 am at 3:10 am #1158636☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantMDG, coffee is very likely ??? ?????? just like tea.
Don’t forget, were talking about Via, which is not the same as other instant coffee.
There is even reason to be machmir to use ???? ??? ????? for ordinary instant coffee, but more so for Via.
July 5, 2016 4:02 am at 4:02 am #1158637MDGParticipantThank you. I understand now.
July 6, 2016 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #1158638iacisrmmaParticipantI too take offense that shuls with brewed coffee are “uppity”. Just like I shop based on best prices for my own home, the shul buys coffee based on best prices. In my shul we have both brewed coffee and instant. We have a generous congregant who sponsors the brewed coffee. If for some reason he can’t supply the coffee we buy some cans. We make one pot of brewed coffee a day.
July 7, 2016 12:14 am at 12:14 am #1158639golferParticipantFor Via experts-
I’m curious what would happen a)Halacha-wise & b)Taste-wise if one were to make coffee essence from Via the way we make tea essence for Shabbos.
(I hope I’m allowed to post on this thread. I never drank a coffee in shul.)
July 7, 2016 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1158640☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHalacha-wise, it depends how it was made, but could remove any possible chashashos of bishul.
Taste-wise, I don’t know, but I would sooner make brewed coffee concentrate once I was patcka-ing.
July 7, 2016 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #1158641cherrybimParticipantFor the most part, I gave up on brewed coffee once I discovered VIA Instant Columbia, also it’s ok for Pesach. The best price is at Costco.
July 7, 2016 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #1158642JosephParticipantNu, how do all of you coffee connoisseurs rate Starbucks in relation to VIA, Taster’s Choice and Gevalia?
July 8, 2016 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #1158643cherrybimParticipantJoseph, fyi, VIA is a Starbucks instant coffee in a packet; comes in several varieties.
July 8, 2016 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #1158644JosephParticipantcherrybim, is VIA comparable in taste/quality to the stuff you buy in a Starbucks retail outlet?
July 11, 2016 2:03 pm at 2:03 pm #1158645cherrybimParticipantI don’t care for Starbucks brewed retail or otherwise, but I like the VIA Columbia.
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