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  • #2026331
    Meno
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    What’s the optimal angle for a shtender top?

    I’m asking specifically about a tabletop standing shtender, but feel free to give your thoughts on other types as well (not that you need my permission to go off-topic on an internet forum).

    I have my thoughts, but I’d like to see what other people think first.

    #2026348
    Dr. E
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    It really depends. For davening or learning? (And I’m glad that you specified that it’s not a free standing shtender because when it’s on the floor, that’s a whole different parsha.). For davening, you’d want more clearance to accommodate shuckeling. So depending on your shuckeling style, that might determine the angle. For learning, you’d definitely want at least a 45 degree angle toward your chair in order to see the sefer–unless the unit has a cup holder for coffee. Then, you’d want to have it more straight-up.

    #2026355
    ujm
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    How tall are you?

    #2026407
    Meno
    Participant

    Let’s assume I can modify the height of the shtender to suit my height.

    #2026434
    mentsch1
    Participant

    My son just asked me to build him a shtender for yeshiva
    We recently went to a large local shul
    He put his gemarrah on at least 15 different types and picked one
    i measured it at 21 degrees

    #2026566
    HaLeiVi
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    The Yeshiva freestanding shtenders must have a foot rest positioned to have enough control to pull or push the top to or away from you.

    I still remember how my Chavrusa lost control and his shtender rammed the back of the neck of the guy in front. Hard to forget the shriek.

    #2026599
    Lostspark
    Participant

    61.3 degrees, 77.0 degrees if you are ChaBaD.

    #2026688
    right about now
    Participant

    Created an account just to answer this. It is pretty much settled science that 12-15 degrees is the comfort range for viewing writing at a lecture. I’ve built scores of shtenders and the angle use is always 12 degrees. Hatzlacha!

    welcome!

    #2026730
    Meno
    Participant

    right about now,

    Welcome, and thanks for your input.

    Do you think 12-15° is actually the most comfortable angle, or do you think it’s just the best balance between being able to see the writing and also looking at the audience? I would think a steeper angle would be more comfortable to read if you don’t have the audience factor.

    #2026754
    ujm
    Participant

    Where did you previously mention there being an audience, as a factor in consideration?

    #2026765
    Meno
    Participant

    Ujm,

    Right about now mentioned viewing writing at a lecture. I assumed he was referring to someone giving a lecture in front of an audience. I was pointing out that a regular tabletop shtender is generally not used in front of an audience

    #2026806
    right about now
    Participant

    Sorry, should have read ‘lecturn’. But the question is valid. I would suspect that for learning, a steeper angle might make sense, but for davening where you still want to be able to see the tzibbur, a shallower (12 degrees) would make sense. This was presented in graphic standards. Strangely, it is not a question unique to the frum olam.

    #2026820
    Meno
    Participant

    I’d rather see my siddur than the back of someone’s head.

    #2026831

    Finally, an answer to the old Carroll’s question: how is the orev like a shtender?
    They are both bad.
    Let me know if you get this.

    #2026908
    Sam Klein
    Participant

    Why don’t you just buy an adjustable level shtender for your son? They come with 5 or more levels to choose which is best and can always be changed to a different level if someone else taller or older is using it instead. Their also made by a few companies and not just 1 choice kind to pick from and they are also strong enough to be able to keep a big heavy Gemara on them.

    Hatzlacha rabba

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