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This is not for discussion, only for vote. Please vote if you think that harassing other posters should be permitted in the CR.
If most people agree, we will petition the mods to only permit posts which do not harass other posters, for grammar reasons or otherwise.
You forgot to start by voting “no”.
No.
No. Respectful disagreement, yes, harrassment, absolutely not.
does that include trolling
Of course not.
Does that include being disrespectful to people who you don’t agree with?
What do you mean by harassing? If you mean a comment that does nothing but demean another poster, then adamant no. If something else, then please explain.
Does it include voting other CR members ‘off the island’ because you disagree with them?
no
Should threads that are started for the sole purpose of harassing someone about their preference for grammatical accuracy be allowed on the CR?
IS YES AN OPTION IN THE POLL OR IS IT OPT OUT?
PBA- how do you explain your treatment of some of the other posters?
And I quote…
“Wow. You really know even less than nothing. It really is quite bewildering.”
Sound familiar?
Popa – I considered it, but felt my point would be better made by contextualisation.
popa – I know we’ve ‘discussed’ this before but I continue to be baffled by your strong stance on this when, as rabbi_dr posted, you do the same thing yourself. I am not saying this to demean you in anyway, perhaps hearing this in context you can accept this as well meant constructive criticism and adjust your posts as well.
I can’t believe I missed this.
All this time, Popa has meant to vote “Yes”. Click on his name to read why.
Rabbi-dr and Syag, I will defend popa on that. He was only putting down that poster’s knowledge because that poster was taking a very non-traditional approach to halacha, which included disregarding the opinion of, in a demeaning manner, one of our great poskim (the Rema). This was not over some silly grammatical minutiae.
Even if one were to defend that poster’s approach (which I don’t), he would have to admit that the motivations were quite different.
If you want to call popa a hypocrite, you’ll have to find a different example.
Edit: This was posted before popa’s post defending himself was approved.
Wanderingchana,
You also missed this clarification:
I believe he is quite serious here.
For that to be true hakaras hatov, I would have to get myself into a position to be insulted, so that you can defend me. 🙂
We come here to have a bit of fun. If someone is getting hurt, it is not fun.
Now I understand. If something is offensive to me, it’s permitted. If something is offensive to somebody else, it’s not. Thanks for clearing that up.
Haifagirl, you are personally offended by poor grammar?
DY – your defense is misplaced as I wasn’t attacking and I wasn’t calling him a hypocrite. You also can’t use one incident to tell me that a bunch of others never happened. Although I agree with his motive for putting the person down in that particular post, I believe very strongly that there are other ways of doing it that would be both more appropriate and more effective.
If I was calling him a hypocrite, that would make me a hypocrite as my criticism is in regard to his putting others down. I was trying to point out to him that he may not realize that some posters see his behavior to be equally as mean and that if he does indeed find it distasteful, he may, himself, want to consider change. It wasn’t what I wanted from him, it was about what I thought he would want from himself. I was trying to avoid too lengthy a discussion ( and failed), however, because then people tend to pick apart and answer to various sentence fragments and the point gets lost.
I did consider leaving out all the spaces and commas in order to make this post shorter but decided against it.
torah613 – I agree
Syag, you didn’t call him a hypocrite, you were more polite than that, but it would be a huge coincidence if you punkt chose this thread to give him mussar.
I didn’t say popa was a tzaddik (at least not on this thread), but that was a bad example, not because the poster deserved an insult, but because the situation demanded a strong response, not some pc-high-self-esteem-inducing-back-handed-compliment. As I recall, although popa (admittedly) certainly has been “over the top”, that was the most negative comment I’ve ever seen him make, so not only was it a bad example, it was an unfair one.
DY and PBA — thank you for sticking up for me and thepurpleone we do it bec it’s easier that wayad as she said it shows our personality (did I say it right purpleone?) when people just keep commenting on grammar 1) we do it more….2) u ruin the thread!!
Haifa, many times we asked you to stop in every thread you comment about it and it ruins the thread I don’t think popa did this bec he wanted to insult or be mean he did it bec u didn’t get it another way were hopingu get itnow..(popa am I right?)
Popa, you wrote the same link twice, but I assume you mean this one:
But I note this post as well.
DY – I believe you misunderstood again, but I don’t believe I can explain it any better. When I tell someone their behavior is hurtful, and am guilty of the same behavior, I would want someone to assume I didn’t realize I was doing that same thing, (since I just claimed it to be hurtful) and do me the courtesy of letting me know so I can change. That is not name calling on any level. That is called being a friend.
And why wouldn’t it be in this thread? It was a response to his opening post?
Popa, you broke your own rule!
whoa, i think this thread is rlly rude 2 haifagirl the same way the other threads rude to me and superme.. lets all be frends kk???
no more grammer nazis. go away. and no bashing others. play nice.
Syag, I see. Rabbi-dr’s example was still a poor one, even if popa was even meaner to Avi K.
Purple, we’ve really tried to be much more subtle about it before, but she still insisted.
and why exaclty shud i listen to her??
Ou y can’t we all b friends??!!! Seriously let’s just ignore her then if noone responds to the grammar comments from her eventually shell stop!!
I’m just a casual reader and occasional poster to the coffee room. I guess I’m a relative outsider who doesn’t get the nuances and subtleties of the coffee room personalities. For that I apologize. That being said, I’m sure there are other casual browsers who may be as unfamiliar as I am and may have missed the distinction. Thanks for clarifying.
Popa we hav been friends I’m waiting for everyone to stop doing ???? ????!!!!
Haifagirl, you are personally offended by poor grammar?
Yes. Isn’t that obvious?
Toi
Try not to trivialize the murder of 6,000,000 kedoshim by appending the term nazi where it has no place and isn’t discussing the Holocaust. I know its very in vogue to do so but really any Jew and any sensitive person should refrain.
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