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“And how do you know it was never a contributing factor in a later heart attack?”
Because someone who does a mitzva is not harmed. Eating milchigs on Shavous is a mitzva.
Moshe eating milchig- you can have a glass of milk and piece of cheese. Doesn’t say to eat CHEESECAKE. (But I accepted the cheesecake “mitzvah” too!)
smartcookie. technically youre right, but the minhag now is to have cheesechake and minhag yisroel torah hu.
“Actually, that thread got me thinking that maybe I should serve our tuition bill on Yom Tov. Or at least for dessert.”
No one could choke that down. 😉
but the minhag now is to have cheesechake and minhag yisroel torah hu.
Then I guess now I’m *really* going to gehenim for not having cheesecake.
The Wolf
Yes, Wolf, yes you are 😉 , perhaps you should re-think your position and do teshuvah! It’s not like it was…say… P’TCHA!
Wolf, a minhag is only “Torah hu” for those who follow that minhag. If you don’t follow that minhag, then you are “patur”. But if you take upon yourself this really holy minhag of eating cheesecake on Shavous, then really amazing things will happen to you.
Like a stomachache…
You need a reason to eat cheese cake??
Joseph, at last I can agree with you on something 100%!!!!
L’Cholov!!
Cheese cake definitely needs no reason.
Hey, how does Joseph have two different subtitles simultaneously?
I like cheesecake. It has cheese.
DY: Maybe someone can think up a cheesecake recipe for PBA that contains beer…
Reasons
1. Moshe (the one who received and gave us the TORAH) wouldnt nurse from non jewish woman. Therefore to recall his zechus on this day.
2. As mentioned previously now the jews had halachos of Treif animals and shechita their kaylim were treif it was shabbos and they could not do Hagolas Kaylim until after shabbos.
3. Before Matan Torah they were choshed that milk was ayver min hachai and so asur. From the pasuk Eretz zovas cholov oodvash they learnt milk was ok.
4. Chalav is Gematria 40. kineged the 40 days Moshe went up
5.The Midrash states that Har Sinai has 8 names, 1 is Gavnunim because it was white like Gevina. So we eat Gevina as a Zecher.
These are just a few there are many more.
On second thought PBA, are your famous pizzas vegetarian or maybe fleischig?
As long as we’re talking about Popa’s diet and his potential beer belly, check out today’s daf, BK 10b, for a great reference.
With a name like that, I wonder how much he weighs?
Thanks midwest!
I wonder how much he weighs?
Probably more than he did at Starbucks.
Thanks Homer, you hit it out of the park!!!! I loved all those reasons, some of which I KNEW, and others which are NEW. NU?
And btw, anyone who has ever had a piece of MY cheesecake (not to brag, mind you), has forgotten all about wanting any meat for Shavuos. All they want is MORE cheesecake. So now I make it in Milchigs AND Pareve, to satisfy all Shittos.
Reasons
Absolutely none of these reasons explain why we eat cheesecake.
1. Moshe (the one who received and gave us the TORAH) wouldnt nurse from non jewish woman. Therefore to recall his zechus on this day.
That might explain why we drink milk and/or eat dairy. Nothing to do with cheesecake.
2. As mentioned previously now the jews had halachos of Treif animals and shechita their kaylim were treif it was shabbos and they could not do Hagolas Kaylim until after shabbos.
Same as above.
3. Before Matan Torah they were choshed that milk was ayver min hachai and so asur. From the pasuk Eretz zovas cholov oodvash they learnt milk was ok.
Same as above.
4. Chalav is Gematria 40. kineged the 40 days Moshe went up
Same as above
5.The Midrash states that Har Sinai has 8 names, 1 is Gavnunim because it was white like Gevina. So we eat Gevina as a Zecher.
This might explain why we eat cheese, but says nothing about cheesecake.
The Wolf
If ya gonna eat cheese, ya may as well LIKE it!!!! When you put together, cream cheese, eggs, vanilla, and sugar, MAGIC happens! Add in some dollops of chocolate, and it’s taam Gan Eden. Add some fruit pie filling on top and it’s mamesh a balanced meal! Ya got yer basic food groups, protein, calcium, fat, carbs, vitamins, and minerals in one single food aource. What could be bad? The halacha of v’nishmarten me’od es nafshoseichem, would seem to indicate that one should eat a balanced diet. And if you have one nice slice in each hand, that’s as balanced as it gets.
Al pi nistar, cheesecake is a segulah for Hatzlachah in various inyanim.
Al pi oomis, it’s a segula for hatzlacha in a good shidduch, if the kallah makes and serves excellent cheesecake for her chosson who likes cheesecake. Should he be lactose intolerant or chalilah R”L lo aleinu have an actual aversion to cheesecake, a Rebbetzin should be consulted.
Anyone who even thinks you need a reason to eat cheesecake on Shavuous is a pure apikorus, mamish.
(I eagerly await Wolf’s retort and mea culpa.)
There is only one compelling reason to eat cheesecake. YUM!!!!
(I eagerly await Wolf’s retort and mea culpa.)
Whatever.
The Wolf
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