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July 22, 2021 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm #1993966Reb EliezerParticipant
The Dubner Maggid says that nachmu, consolation is written twice as the Hashem’s wish for our nechama is itself our nechama by showing that He cares for us. The seven haftaros of consolation is a back and forth comunication between Hashem and us on who should console whom. At the end Hashem says anochi, anochi, I alone will console you and we say, sos osis baShem, I am happy with His consolation promising words.
July 23, 2021 12:15 am at 12:15 am #1994029Yabia OmerParticipantThere is no Shva under the Chet. Nachamu, not Nachmu and certainly not Nachmi. That’s just ridiculous.
July 23, 2021 6:44 am at 6:44 am #1994071commonsaychelParticipant@yabia, I really envy you, that this is the only thing that in your mind, BH that we have reached this point
July 23, 2021 6:45 am at 6:45 am #1994068Sam KleinParticipantThese words of consolation should never have been needed in the first place as klal yisroel as a nation-yes myself included-should never have done the many sins relating to the days of theany tragedies that happened on both-the 17th of tamuz AND on the 9th of Av from OVER THOUSANDS OF YEARS-and don’t just relate to the destruction of both Bais hamikdosh
destroyed on Tisha BavMay we all do Teshuva ASAP together so that the Bais hamikdosh can be rebuilt ASAP
July 23, 2021 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1994084BenephraimParticipantPlease excuse RE for the indiscretion of not writing the chataf.There is no patach alone either. It is a compound nekudah And guess what? Its kiflayim.
July 23, 2021 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1994095Little FroggieParticipantYabia: No Shva, that’s correct. However it is chataf, in our circles, it’s pronounced as hybrid patach/shva, so both are correct!!!
July 23, 2021 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1994096asimpleyidParticipantbeautiful
@yabia Omer
don’t you have better things to do than to nitpick at the way someone spells things? he said over a beautiful vort. be consistent to your complaints and don’t focus on the chitzonius (the spelling or pronunciation) but focus on the penimius (the Dvar Torah). is this what jews in 2021 are complaining about? really? the way someone spells Nachamu??July 23, 2021 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1994099Reb EliezerParticipantNow Tu B’ov falls on Shabbos Nachamu which is similar to Yom Kippur being a kapara of the meraglim whereas Yom Kippur is the kapara of the eigel. Both, the girls celebrated in white dress borrowing in order not to ashame each other.
July 23, 2021 2:41 pm at 2:41 pm #1994154Reb EliezerParticipantYabia Omer, reply #1994029, why is there a chatov (shavo nah) under the ches when it is a tenua ketana (patach) which should be closed with a shavo noch?
July 23, 2021 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #1994193BenephraimParticipantTHE grammar of nachamu is a פיעל which starts with a פתח under the פ הפועל and a שוא נע and דגש חזק under the ע הפועל.This is modified because a ח can’t take a דגשor a שוא נע. But it takes the חטף instead of the שוא נע. The dagesh is omitted.Gay vays.Shabbat ( dagesh chazak) shalom.
July 23, 2021 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #1994198GadolhadorahParticipantI am constantly amazed by guys that have no shaychus to dikduk and nonetheless are driven to daven for the amud or put themselves forward as baal korehs. We are not unfairly criticizing poishete yidden as amaratzim and tinokos for their fractured chazanus….. we are criticizing individuals who proclaim themselves as sufficiently knowledgeable to represent the tzibur before the Ebeshter. For me, some of the consistent errors are like chalk on a blackboard but its even worse when we’re talking about things that actually change the meaning of the tefillos and kariah. Kadish seems to be one of the most victimized teffilos and yet it is almost birkas Hashem d’oraisa. And to end the davening every shabbos with an off-key and mangled An’im Zemiros reminds you that it must have been deliberately written by a Chossid to torture his Litvish brethren since I’m not sure I’ve ever heard it pronounced correctly in its entirety.
July 24, 2021 11:35 pm at 11:35 pm #1994300Reb EliezerParticipantThank you Benephraim as the piel takes a dagesh.
July 24, 2021 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm #1994301Reb EliezerParticipantJuly 24, 2021 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm #1994298Yabia OmerParticipantWhat about saying Lesaken Olam Bemalchus Sha…? That sounds like “to endanger the world” rather than to fix the world.
July 24, 2021 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #1994318BenephraimParticipantRE you are welcome. Your comments are appreciated. תחזקנה ידיכם.
July 26, 2021 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #1994712Reb EliezerParticipantYabia Omer, doesn’t lesaken mean to fix?
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