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  • #590391
    mepal
    Member

    Today is September 11 2009. Does anyone have any stories/experiences/memories from 09/11/01 they’d like to share with the CR?

    #807135

    Please see this thread from last year: 9/11 Video

    #807136
    the.nurse
    Member

    I can never forget that day.. the first I heard about it was that someone told me the Empire State Bldg was hit by a plane.. the story then changed to the Twin Towers, and then it became 2 planes. That’s when I got so scared because my older sis worked in the WTC, in Tower 4. I called my mother and we were just crying on the phone together because we couldn’t reach her because the cell towers weren’t working and didn’t know if she was alive or not.

    Later, we heard from her what had happened.. When the first plane hit, no one knew what was going on, everyone just thought it was an accident, and they were all told to stay where they were. She decided to leave the building, but when she got out, realized that she had left her pocketbook inside. Since there was mass confusion, she managed to get back into the building without anyone stopping her and got her pocketbook. Somewhere during this time, the 2nd building was hit and there was pandemonium, everyone just running out. She followed where everyone else was going and walked over the Brooklyn Bridge with the masses of people. On the other side, there was a store about to close but she begged the owner just to let her use their phone, which she then used to call my father at work (he worked in downtown Bklyn). My father then called us and we then found out that she was OK.

    I can never forget that day; those terrible images will be etched in my mind forever.

    #807137
    Y.W. Editor
    Keymaster

    Maybe one day…this writer will have the courage to write his personal experience of the horror that day…..

    Just one line I will write to my friend B.E. “You say Shema for both of us, hold my hand and I’ll lead the way….”

    I can feel the sheetrock and sand in my throat chocking me right now…

    That’s enough horror…I already didn’t sleep a wink last night.

    Kisiva Vachasima Tova.

    #807138
    mepal
    Member

    nurse, WOW! BH she’s ok.

    Wow, editor. I can only imagine… BH you’re alive and well now.

    There’s a beautiful write up on the mainpage, about Mr. S. Biegeleisen’s ‘experience’. Thank you editor for posting. There are no words…I’m still shaking from reading it.

    #807139
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    I was a block or so away from the towers when they fell.

    EDITED

    The Wolf

    #807140
    mepal
    Member

    Just curious. Did anyone see the memorial lights on last night? I couldn’t seem to find them when I checked…

    #807141
    the.nurse
    Member

    I knew the Beigeleisen fam, they lived in my neighborhood. EDITED his story still gives me shivers up my back every time I hear it

    #807143
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    I can’t share stories for obvious reasons, but this date can not pass without a deep chill running through me.

    #807144
    Jax
    Member

    ”Ki eshmira Shabbos, K-ail yishmeraini…” – Zemiros L’Shabbos.

    “When I safeguard the Sabbath, G-d will safeguard me…” – Sabbath Liturgy

    when you have such a passion for a mitzvah, Hashem protects you, seen from this story:

    David, an observant Jew was at Logan Airport getting ready to board United Flight 175. He was going to LA on an important business trip and had to make this flight. He boarded the plane, watched the doors close, and sat down.

    Suddenly he remembered that he left his tefillin in the terminal boarding area. He politely asked the stewardess if he could go back and retrieve his tefillin, which were sitting just a few feet from the gate.

    She told him that once the doors of the plane closed, no one was allowed off the plane. Not about to take this sitting down, he asked if he could speak to the pilot to obtain special permission. Surely the pilot would understand. The pilot did not comply. He simply restated the policy.

    David was not about to lose this precious mitzvah, or let the holy tefillin get lost like that, so, not knowing what else to do, he started screaming at the top of his lungs, “I am going to lose my tefillin.” The crew asked him to be quiet, but he refused to stop making a fuss – a rather loud fuss.

    Finally, he was making such a ruckus and a tumult that the flight crew told him that they would let him off the plane, simply because he was a nuisance. In fact, even though it would only take about 90 seconds to run out, grab his tefillin, and run back – they were not going to wait for him.

    No matter. David was not about to lose his tefillin, even if it caused him great inconvenience or cost his business a loss. He left the plane, never to re board.

    This flight was United #175. The second plane to reach the WTC. David’s devotion to a mitzvah saved his life.

    The consequences of David’s actions do not end there. Originally the terrorists wanted both towers struck simultaneously to maximize the explosive carnage. Later it was learned that due to this whole tumult, the takeoff was delayed, causing a space of 18 minutes between the striking of the two towers. This delay made it possible for thousands more people to escape alive from both buildings.

    Literally thousands, if not tens of thousands, of lives were spared because one Jew would not forsake his beloved tefillin.

    #807145
    Jax
    Member

    #2

    “Ki eshmira Shobbos, K-ail yishmeraini…” – Zemiros L’Shobbos.

    “When I safeguard the Sabbath, G-d will safeguard me…” – Sabbath Liturgy

    There is an old Jewish saying, “More than the Jews keep Shobbos, Shobbos keeps the Jews.” When Jews are faithful to Hashem’s commandments everyone merits special Divine protection, as the following true story illustrates:

    Shalom Dadoun began flying for United Airlines in 1986. Shortly after, he married a sweet pious girl, whose good influence led him to be a more observant Jew. Eventually, Shalom gave up flying on Shobbos.

    This however is easier said than done. United pilots sign up for their flight assignments one month at a time in advance. When pilots of Shalom’s seniority level sign up to fly the Boeing 767, they are assigned a month worth of flights and have no say in the particular flight dates. It would be possible to be forced into flying on Shobbos.

    If a pilot chooses to fly the Airbus, he would have control of his actual flight dates for the upcoming month. The 767 flights paid much more, but Shalom would not put himself in a position where he might be compelled to work on Shobbos, so he always chose the Airbus.

    One of Shalom’s favorite flights was the Boston-LA flight, which had always been flown using the Airbus. In September, 2001, that route was given to the 767 fleet. Since Shalom would not fly the 767, due to the possible Shobbos consequences he could not fly the Boston-LA route which he usually flew.

    Had it not been for the inspiration of his virtuous wife and his Shobbos No-Fly policy, he would have been on the Boston-LA flight on September 11, 2001. United Flight 175. The flight that crashed.

    Posted 2 months ago #

    #807146
    cherrybim
    Participant

    I worked in a building abutting the towers and that morning my young daughter missed her van which would take her to school in the Lower East Side of New York.

    So I took her by subway train and heard the deafening explosion of the second plane smacking into the building as we got out of the station.

    When the towers fell, it seemed like a string of firecrackers going off; starting from the top, one floor popping and then the one below it, on and on.

    When the towers collapsed, they were shooting beams like missiles in all direction and many hit World Trade Center 7, a fifty story building which stored many thousands of gallons of fuel throughout the building. The building burned all day and fell toward evening. When this building fell, it created a massive fire ball which entered my office across the street. The heat of the fire melted my computer to the floor and fused my desk drawers together.

    It took a long time before my mind could think of other things and not replay this episode over and over. If this was my experience, I can’t imagine what it was like seeing the Bais Hamikdash destroyed.

    One thought; I remember how everyone treated each other with the utmost respect and kindness for months afterwards. It’s unfortunate that things eventually went back to the way they were before.

    #807147
    aussieboy
    Participant

    Never Forget 9/11

    #807148

    We should never forget that day. Never forget how we acted during the tumult and for weeks afterward. The way we hugged our families, treated our neighbors, let the little arguments fly off without burning a hole in our hearts like it used to. The way the flag of America flew over so many homes and shops, the way we showed appreciation for our country, were PROUD to be an American for they have allowed us to be frum yidden. America has helped us, so we should now help them during their tragedy. How yidden helped Jews and goyim alike, how Jews helped others without regard for their type of hat, nussach of their siddur, or color of their shirt. How the stores gave away water and shoes for those who had to walk home. Our siblings weren’t annoying- we were glad they were there. We appreciated human life in a way we haven’t in a long time. We cared about people we never met, may never see in our entire lives. But they were there, and they needed us, our tefilos, our thoughts.

    We became different that day. Our R”H and Yom Kippur were different.

    We should never forget how it changed our lives and we should never have allowed us to relapse into our old selves.

    Never Forget 9/11/01

    #807149
    Jax
    Member

    thank you to all the members that shared their stories from 9/11! telling your stories, helps those of us who where young at the time to grasp what went on on that day!

    all the best,

    Jax

    #807150
    mepal
    Member

    Jax: Thanks for sharing those inspirational stories again! Very apropo!

    cherrybim: omg, that is so freaky. You must’ve been traumatized. What a neis your daughtor missed her bus that morning… wow, wow, wow.

    Excellent point, areivim. So true…

    #807151
    mepal
    Member

    I got this email recently.

    ‘MEET ME IN THE STAIRWELL’

    You say you will never forget where you were when

    you heard the news On September 11, 2001.

    Neither will I.

    I was on the 110th floor in a smoke filled room

    with a man who called his wife to say ‘Good-Bye.’ I

    held his fingers steady as he dialed. I gave him the

    peace to say, ‘Honey, I am not going to make it, but it

    is OK..I am ready to go.’

    I was with his wife when he called as she fed

    breakfast to their children. I held her up as she

    tried to understand his words and as she realized

    he wasn’t coming home that night.

    I was in the stairwell of the 23rd floor when a

    woman cried out to Me for help. ‘I have been

    knocking on the door of your heart for 50 years!’ I said.

    ‘Of course I will show you the way home – only

    believe in Me now.’

    I was on all four of those planes, in every seat,

    with every prayer. I was with the crew as they

    were overtaken. I was in the very hearts of the

    believers there, comforting and assuring them that their

    faith has saved them.

    I was in Texas , Virginia , California , Michigan , Afghanistan .

    I was standing next to you when you heard the terrible news.

    Did you sense Me?

    I want you to know that I saw every face. I knew

    every name – though not all knew Me. Some met Me

    for the first time on the 86th floor.

    Some sought Me with their last breath.

    Some couldn’t hear Me calling to them through the

    smoke and flames; ‘Come to Me… this way… take

    my hand.’ Some chose, for the final time, to ignore Me.

    But, I was there.

    I did not place you in the Tower that day. You

    may not know why, but I do. However, if you were

    there in that explosive moment in time, would you have

    reached for Me?

    Sept. 11, 2001, was not the end of the journey

    for you. But someday your journey will end. And I

    will be there for you as well. Seek Me now while I may

    be found. Then, at any moment, you know you are

    ‘ready to go.’

    I will be in the stairwell of your final moments.

    God

    During the next 60 seconds, stop whatever you are

    doing, and take this opportunity. (Literally it

    is only 1 minute.) All you have to do is the

    following:

    Stop and think and appreciate God’s power

    in your life, for doing what you know is pleasing to

    Him.

    #807152
    squeak
    Participant

    ghoulish

    #807153
    mepal
    Member

    when I googled that, I got

    1. One who delights in the revolting, morbid, or loathsome.

    2. A grave robber.

    3. An evil spirit or demon in Muslim folklore believed to plunder graves and feed on corpses.

    which one?

    #807154
    squeak
    Participant

    1

    #807155
    mepal
    Member

    Oh. I thought you meant to say the you where the ghoulish one. wtvr.

    #807156
    squeak
    Participant

    Nope. Feeding on corpses just doesn’t jive with my religious beliefs

    Score -1 points for ames for that comment

    #807157
    mepal
    Member

    Good point, squeak.

    #807158
    mepal
    Member

    Hey ames, save that for later referance 😉

    #807159
    squeak
    Participant

    I hope you realize that was a -1 as in minus. If I were you, I’d try to forget it.

    #807160
    squeak
    Participant

    Touche. I concede defeat.

    #807161
    A600KiloBear
    Participant

    BS”D

    🙁 when I heard what happened, I was in my office in Moscow and not fully aware of the extent of the tragedy as the initial reports were so sketchy it sounded like a private plane had crashed and little damage was done. When I could not access US internet sites I knew something was very wrong so I tried to get information.

    I called friends of mine who were at home and had the TV on and the first thing I was told in a voice expressing complete disgust was: “I saw how in Palestine they are dancing!” (this was Russian TV and they referred to Gaza as Palestine).

    #807162
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    I heard someone speaking (in 2006) and he brought up the September 11th attacks. It was a moving speech as he dramatically stressed some interesting facts, like “This is the first incident since July 4th, 1776 where the incident is referred to by the date. The Challenger Disaster is not known as January 28th, the assassination of JFK is not known as November 22nd…”

    He then paused for a few moments and started talking about the Holocaust. “People are able to deny the Holocaust today because the average person can’t visualize the number six million. The number one hundred thousand sounds much larger, yet it is only one sixtieth the size. Let’s try to look at it another way. The Holocaust was one September 11th every single day for five and one half years. Imagine one September 11th beginning on September 11th 2001, it would still be going on now and wouldn’t end until March of next year!”

    I thought I’d bring this up since there are those in the U.N. who deny the Holocaust yet would consider it foolish to try and deny the terrorist attacks of September 11th 2001.

    #807163
    areivimzehlazeh
    Participant

    excellent!

    #807164
    mepal
    Member

    Wow. Thank you so much for sharing that point, Dr. Pepper. Amazing…

    #807166

    !????

    #807167
    blinky
    Participant

    ICOT- yes, its sickening how some ppl have the audacity to deny it…

    #807168
    SRPsych
    Member

    This might be a good time to also thank all those (like maybe Editor?) who were there as First Responders – 911, Hatzalah and all the rest – those that b”h made it out and r”l those that did not. As someone with many EMT friends, I can say that 9/11 changed many of their lives forever.

    To those that continue in their holy work: you are my heroes. To those that could not: Thank you for all you have done; may you always have the strength to move forward in whatever capacity now suits you best…

    G’mar Tov

    #807169
    emoticon613
    Member

    i mean, can you imagine someone getting up and saying “9-11 never happened-” ????????????????????????????????????????

    i mamesh don’t understand how holocaust deniers did it…

    EDITED,

    EDITED,

    EDITED!!!!!!

    #807170

    because the Holocaust happened to Jews

    #807172
    blinky
    Participant

    Its really crazy about the holocaust because as the generations go on, its so easy for the world to manipulate what really happened.

    P.s. Hey Mr. 80- did you remove a ? from emoticons post? Isn’t that overeacting? Or is it just me you do it by 🙂

    #807173

    i actually added one

    #807174
    blinky
    Participant

    Why????????????????????????????????

    #807175

    because!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #807176
    blinky
    Participant

    :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)………..( my hands are getting tired!)

    #807177
    emoticon613
    Member

    hey – u need to tell me when u edit my posts!! that big black bold edited is my goal in life!

    #807178
    Sam2
    Participant

    There are already people who claim that the plane attacks were fake and that the buildings fell using explosives. Give it 80 years and people will claim the buildings never existed and that all pictures are doctored. People with agendas will find ways to say what they want.

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