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There are 5 star seminaries here in the US, why pay 25000 for a 10 month trip to Israel?
Think of all the expenses of marrying off a daughter, why go into debt now for a narishkeit?
A girl can get an excellent chinuch right here in the USA, going to seminary in E. Y. In an overrated luxury.
Some girls come back in a worse spiritual/emotional state then when they went.
Time to stop this mishugas.And there’s less risk of a girl hanging out with a guy in the US
The risk of a girl hanging out with a guy is determined not by her location, but by her character.
Location is also absolutely a potentially contributing factor.
I cannot possibly agree more. The price is outrageous and completely unaffordable for most people. American seminaries are just as good, if not better, than Eretz Yisroel. Girls who want the “experience” should instead opt for a one month summer program with a shared rented dira nearby.
They take $25,000 of your money and can’t even be bothered to house and feed you for Shabbos.
RebYidd23 you are naive. I don’t think you spent that much time at a yeshiva in Israel.
I don’t think you spent much time outside Israel.
I have to agree with the OP, A year in Israel is basically a year vacation
A girl can get an excellent chinuch right here in the USA, going to seminary in E. Y. In an overrated luxury.
Yeah, but doesn’t sending a girl to a domestic seminary ruin a girl’s chances at a good shidduch?
There are traps that an American in israel may fall that you’ll likely not find in America. You won’t really find an American teen who’ll go to a bar following going out for ice cream. I’m just giving an example that’s pretty common in Israel.
What does the location of the seminary have to do with a shiduch??? If she can get the same or better chinuch at a seminary in the U.S. or UK, why would a prospective chosson care….in fact, that means the kalah’s family has more $$ to purchase a higher-end Rolex chosson watch.
Not ALL seminaries are 25,000 dollars.
Remember much of the money is going towards, food, lodgings, and trips.
There’s a few small seminaries that don’t do any trips and use simple lodgings for less.Trips? This sounds like a year vacation getaway, not a Torah schooling.
Why are trips a routine part of the “seminary” programming?
Its a vacation no doubt, but its also the first time many girls (and boys) are away from home without rules from their parents. Its very likely the behaviors you are speaking of here would happen in the US as well if the teenager went away to a seminary here in the US. The seminaries in Israel depend on money sent from rich parents in the US to stay open so they are willing to look away at certain things
I am not sure that i could raise my children, the way that many seem to advocate here. Every decision at every turn is disparaged or questioned. And, at least by implication, if you do certain things – you are “crum” or lax or modern or an apikores. If you hold by a certain Rav (e.g. Rav Tendler or Rav Melamed — who are liars) that makes you — misled and gullible. The list doesnt end, but, to wit.
1.If you play sports.
2.If you watch sports.
3.If you send your boy or girl to Yeshiva/Seminary in Israel
4.If you go on vacation.
5.If you go on to a Pesach hotel or a hotel on Pesach.
6.If you wear white shirts (or dont wear white shirts).
7.If you listen to certain types of music.
8.If you pray for IDF soldiers or support the IDF.The only thing that is not subject to dispute is that the internet obviously is not completely assur — as long as you a filter which allows YWN.
Shabbat Shalom. (That’s Gut Shabbos in Hebrew btw).
A brief comment to my comment — which could have been more articulate — if only i were.
I am not arguing against halacha. i am observing an attitude toward every decision and every choice is which is heavy handed and depressing. I am not sure that i would wish to saddle my kids with that burden — that everything will be second guessed.
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