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So lots of married couples like to talk about how when you are dating, you shouldn’t expect to “see stars” or to “be in love” or special things like that.
And lots of married couples have bad marriages.
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(See also this post below http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/seeing-stars#post-456915)(added to OP at OP’s request)
True love only comes once you are already married.
Lots of couples see stars after marriage: she throws things at him, he sees stars.
True love only comes once you are already married.
You know, I loved my wife before we married and I love her today.
Considering the fact that you don’t know my wife or myself and can’t possibly know about our feelings for each other over the years that we’ve been together, do you mind telling me how you know when I “truly” loved my wife and when I didn’t?
The Wolf
Shein: I have a Rashi in Kesuvos that seems to disagree with you.
Sam2: Please quote the Rashi in context so we can determine how you may have misunderstood it.
Shein: 7a (maybe 8a), where it discusses the Sheva Brachos. On the words, “Re’im Ha’ahuvim”, Rashi translates that as “Re’im Ha’ohavim Zeh Es Zeh”. Please, tell me how I misunderstood that. I don’t claim to have perfect P’shat in everything, but this one seems pretty clear (to me, at least).
(By the way, it’s idiotic when people say that a wedding should be the “happiest day of their lives”. It shouldn’t be at all. The couple should love each other more and be happier and happier together constantly after their marriage. But this Rashi clearly states that it’s assumed that there are already feelings of love under the Chuppah.)
Now can you understand the difference between plain love and true love? (Then notice the terminology I employed.)
Plain love and true love? What are you, an ad for a Disney movie? How about we let people who love each other determine what their love is. There’s no reason to judge or set rules about this for anything.
I agree with Sam2, Wolfish and PBA – shein, your comments don’t make sense.
Indeed I can quote Wolfish and I am also quite sure of this: “You know, I loved my wife before we married and I love her today.”
Love is very fleeting.
Aren’t you supposed to see the stars on sukkos?
Popa is right. You are supposed to check with your local astronomer before committing.
And to think I was all set to post the gripping tale of the time I helped Natalie Portman pick out a sefer in Eichlers. Oh well, some other time.
Brony
Right cause that happened. …
Brony – I saw a famous actor once. My friend said he was. But I can’t remember the name though.
I would like to see Obama someday, and make the bracha on seeing a king.
I actually saw a definition that love is appreciating anothers goodness,which should ring true for anyone,and to brony-your better than that,you dont have to bring your lustful fantasies to the public,may hashem guide you!
^ lol wut. stay off the green bro, it isn’t 4:20 just yet.
Torah
If you were to see Obama you say the bracha without Hashems name.
nah w/ a bracha bro, dude has drones.
WIY: I thought Rabbi Yosef said to say it.
You’ll be able to say it when he changes term limits and makes a state of emergency.
Torah
The Steipler, Satmar Rav (Reb Yoel) and Shu”t Beer Moshe pasken otherwise. If you are a sefardi and he is your posek you may follow him otherwise you should do as the Ashkenazi poskim pasken.
I do believe that people can “fall in love” and see stars before they get married. That’s part of the initial chemistry. Real, meaningful, deep and abiding love comes after two people have been married, live together, hopefully BE”H raise a family together, and seen the good and less good in each other and still want to be together. But we should not discount the initial feelings. They are more based on attraction, but that is what brings people together in the beginning. The real love is what keeps them together after that “honeymoon” phase wears off a bit.
What’s going on here today?
the use of words are terribly inappropriate for a setting such as this! The crowd that is reading and responding to this is made up of single girls, boys, married ladies and men etc… How can you bring up an extremely volatile subject as this, in a mixed crowd of anonymous people?
so why are you laughing?
Popa, please define “a lot” and in your anecdotal observation, how much do the two sets of “seeing stars” and “happy marriage” intersect?
if anyone is having a problem with seeing stars I will be glad to call up Bugs Bunny and have him solve that problem for you ^_^
lol
Did you mean to reverse x and y? So that the (square) root of a “happy marriage” is “sees stars”?
But your way, x is always greater than y. So the set of x’s, of people who see stars, is always greater than set y of happy marriages.
So the amount of people who see stars, exceeds the number of people who have happy marriages. So people who see stars don’t always have happy marriages.
Am I misunderstanding your equation?
popa:
How does one know the difference between infatuation and love, when seeing stars?
If they are not different, you admit the idea of seeing stars is another way of referring to infatuation.
Okay, that works.
By removing the exponential, you’re also taking care of the negative stars issue.
hey brony-i dont get the green and 4:20?
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